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| CIA-82 | fdrake * r118523 zc.zope3recipes/ (3 files in 2 dirs): | 00:44 |
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| CIA-82 | - add support for contrlling (including suppressing) logrotate configuration | 00:44 |
| CIA-82 | - prepare for release | 00:44 |
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| CIA-82 | - add support for contrlling (including suppressing) logrotate configuration | 00:51 |
| CIA-82 | - prepare for release | 00:51 |
| CIA-82 | fdrake * r118524 /zc.zope3recipes/tags/ (0.12.0 0.12.0/setup.py): tag release 0.12.0 | 00:52 |
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| CIA-82 | fdrake * r118523 zc.zope3recipes/ (3 files in 2 dirs): | 01:18 |
| CIA-82 | - add support for contrlling (including suppressing) logrotate configuration | 01:18 |
| CIA-82 | - prepare for release | 01:18 |
| CIA-82 | fdrake * r118524 /zc.zope3recipes/tags/ (0.12.0 0.12.0/setup.py): tag release 0.12.0 | 01:18 |
| CIA-82 | fdrake * r118525 zc.zope3recipes/setup.py: update for development | 01:18 |
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| planetzopebot | Alan Hoey Named Release Manager for Plone 3.x Series (Plone News) http://plone.org/news/alanhoeynamedreleasemanager | 07:04 |
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| CIA-82 | janwijbrand janjaapdriessen-resource-publisher * r118526 hurry.resource/src/hurry/resource/ (README.txt core.py): to make the signature() method useful by itself, it should include the publisher_signature as well. | 12:33 |
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| blackrock | Need help understanding the extensible nature of ZCA :) | 13:16 |
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| hever | Zope can't itself listen on HTTP(80) and HTTPS (443) is that correct? | 13:27 |
| betabug | no | 13:27 |
| hever | hmm.. I find no good documentation about running Zope over https without some proxy approach. | 13:28 |
| betabug | Zope can serve quite well on 80 - but it's recommended to put a web server in front | 13:28 |
| betabug | as for https, yes, the hacks that existed were very ugly | 13:29 |
| betabug | hever: Zope is an application server, it's meant to be run "behind" a web server | 13:29 |
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| betabug | it's really easy to do that, it's safe too | 13:31 |
| betabug | wiki.zope.org/zope2/ZopeAndApache IIRC | 13:31 |
| hever | We'll I'm running it behind a squid proxy for normal users. But I'm not going to cache the dynamically generated content for authenticated users. | 13:33 |
| hever | I'm using CacheFu (really good) and ran the site a time with just the Vary Header set to Cookie. This worked great but after we set up Google Analytics, every user has it's own cookie and caching doesn't work usefully. | 13:35 |
| betabug | well, so you're using plone | 13:35 |
| hever | yes | 13:36 |
| betabug | there are tons of guides about setting that stuff up for plone | 13:36 |
| betabug | and you might want to ask in #plone for todays wisdom | 13:36 |
| hever | hmm | 13:36 |
| blackrock | Are there any good example describing the extensibility of ZCA? | 13:39 |
| bigkevmcd | what does that mean? | 13:42 |
| betabug | hey big guy | 13:43 |
| bigkevmcd | hey betabug, how's things in .gr? | 13:43 |
| betabug | warm :-) | 13:43 |
| betabug | I think only Ireland is hotter right now ;-) | 13:43 |
| bigkevmcd | :-) | 13:43 |
| CIA-82 | janwijbrand janjaapdriessen-wsgi * r118527 hurry.zoperesource/ (5 files in 3 dirs): pass on the library object from directory resource to (directory) resource in order to effectively compute a hurry.resource URL | 13:51 |
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| CIA-82 | janwijbrand janjaapdriessen-wsgi * r118528 hurry.zoperesource/src/hurry/zoperesource/README.txt: fix test for subdirectories | 14:07 |
| CIA-82 | janwijbrand janjaapdriessen-wsgi * r118529 hurry.zoperesource/src/hurry/zoperesource/ (zopesupport.py zcml.py): the directory_factory can be a method in this case | 14:07 |
| teix | betabug: next is Portugal :) | 14:07 |
| betabug | jupp, quite likely | 14:08 |
| teix | I was smiling but i hope not :P | 14:08 |
| betabug | well, the situation is no fun, no matter what the next step will be | 14:10 |
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| CIA-82 | regebro regebro-python3 * r118530 zc.buildout/ (3 files in 2 dirs): More tests passing. Now we are stuck because of bugs in Distutils 0.6.14. | 14:48 |
| regebro | I mean Distribute. | 14:52 |
| betabug | not keep it all for yourself? | 14:52 |
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| CIA-82 | yuppie * r118531 CMF/ (buildout-zope212.cfg buildout.cfg buildout-zope213.cfg): - updated Zope2 and ZTK versions | 15:18 |
| CIA-82 | yuppie 2.2 * r118532 CMF/buildout-zope213.cfg: - updated Zope2 version | 15:18 |
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| CIA-82 | regebro regebro-python3 * r118533 zc.buildout/bootstrap/bootstrap.py: Working around the Distribute 0.6.14 bugs. | 16:18 |
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| Charlie_X | Good afternoon. | 17:02 |
| Charlie_X | Anyone joining the weekly zope-dev meeting? | 17:02 |
| trollfot | I'm looking for it, just to see what's being said :) | 17:03 |
| agroszer | brb | 17:03 |
| Charlie_X | Well, we don't have a specific agenda for this week so whatever you're interested in. | 17:03 |
| Charlie_X | We're having another bug day a week from today. | 17:03 |
| trollfot | that I can join. I'm interested in "getting things done" | 17:04 |
| CIA-82 | faassen janjaapdriessen-resource-publisher * r118534 hurry.resource/CREDITS.txt: Add a credits file. | 17:04 |
| CIA-82 | janjaapdriessen janjaapdriessen-resource-publisher * r118535 hurry.resource/src/hurry/resource/ (interfaces.py core.py): Drop zope.interface. | 17:04 |
| Charlie_X | trollfot: always welcome. We've got a list of things to do since the summit that sort of need chasing up. | 17:04 |
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| Charlie_X | I was also interested in the issues raised recently on the ML by Brian Sutherland: can we squeeze more out of the core of Zope, aka "the bicycle toolkit"? | 17:06 |
| agroszer | summit goals seem to gone under the radar | 17:07 |
| Charlie_X | agroszer: real life is good at getting stuff under the radar. | 17:07 |
| agroszer | we'll discuss that at the next summit ;-) | 17:11 |
| Charlie_X | haha | 17:12 |
| Charlie_X | agroszer: what are you working on at the moment? | 17:12 |
| agroszer | well, if you mean goals, I did not sign up (cause I've known I won't really have time), but | 17:13 |
| agroszer | I'm going to add a LOT of packages to winbot soon | 17:13 |
| agroszer | because people not having windows tend to break stuff | 17:13 |
| agroszer | what makes other people angry | 17:14 |
| Charlie_X | Windows seems to be the source of a lot of pain at the moment. I have two separate Plone 4 installs on windows that are broken. Differently. | 17:15 |
| agroszer | that's sort of real-life-ish | 17:15 |
| Charlie_X | Good to know you're looking into it. | 17:15 |
| agroszer | my pain is that I can't kick my customer cause of windows ;-) | 17:15 |
| Charlie_X | What do you think of the "omelette" dependency in z3c.form? | 17:15 |
| agroszer | at the times of the minimal frameworks? | 17:16 |
| agroszer | get rid of that | 17:16 |
| agroszer | we were working on getting rid of dependency hell | 17:17 |
| agroszer | and now it's getting back | 17:17 |
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| agroszer | anyway, the buildbot should keep the packages failure free | 17:20 |
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| Charlie_X | agroszer: I was surprised to see a windows' specific item in the buildout configuration. I assume omelette runs without problems on other systems? | 17:26 |
| Charlie_X | Sorry about that. It seems I dropped off the server and wasn't allowed back on. | 17:27 |
| agroszer | I guess | 17:27 |
| agroszer | seems like freenode had some problem | 17:27 |
| Charlie_X | Happened to you as well? | 17:27 |
| agroszer | I just saw people quitting cause of ping timeouts | 17:28 |
| Charlie_X | Looks like we've lost the log for this channel. | 17:29 |
| Charlie_X | Or is it still there but just not in the announce? | 17:30 |
| agroszer | povbot is here | 17:30 |
| povbot | agroszer: Error: "is" is not a valid command. | 17:30 |
| agroszer | povbot help | 17:30 |
| povbot | agroszer: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. | 17:30 |
| Charlie_X | povbot address | 17:30 |
| povbot | Charlie_X: Error: "address" is not a valid command. | 17:30 |
| * Charlie_X glares at povbot | 17:30 | |
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| betabug | funny bot | 17:31 |
| agroszer | http://zope3.pov.lt/irclogs/ | 17:31 |
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| agroszer | no | 17:31 |
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| agroszer | http://zope3.pov.lt/irclogs-zope/ | 17:31 |
| agroszer | povbot, remember that | 17:32 |
| povbot | agroszer: Error: "remember" is not a valid command. | 17:32 |
| agroszer | thought so | 17:32 |
| betabug | povbot help commands | 17:32 |
| povbot | betabug: Error: There is no command "commands". | 17:32 |
| Charlie_X | Thanks agroszer | 17:32 |
| Charlie_X | Yes, I agree with you that dependencies should not be creeping up. | 17:32 |
| Charlie_X | Okay time up for today. | 17:34 |
| betabug | povbot url last | 17:35 |
| povbot | betabug: Error: "url" is not a valid command. | 17:35 |
| betabug | hmmm, the bot doesn't agree with his manual? | 17:35 |
| agroszer | mgedmin, what did you do with p_vbot | 17:42 |
| mgedmin | povbot is a supybot with almost no plugins | 17:47 |
| povbot | mgedmin: Error: "is" is not a valid command. | 17:47 |
| mgedmin | it is stupid | 17:47 |
| betabug | and chatty :-) | 17:48 |
| mgedmin | then again supybot is written in python | 17:48 |
| mgedmin | so in theory things can be fixed | 17:48 |
| betabug | at least you should enable some Eliza plugin :-) | 17:48 |
| mgedmin | I went through the list of supybot plugins a few times, looking for useful ones | 17:48 |
| mgedmin | I found none | 17:48 |
| betabug | what's the use of that bot anyway? | 17:48 |
| mgedmin | but then later I noticed people using supybot for great effect in some channels | 17:48 |
| betabug | what do you need it for? | 17:49 |
| mgedmin | so probably there are good plugins, I just don't know which ones or how to use them | 17:49 |
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| mgedmin | povbot has one and only one responsibility: to keep channel logs | 17:49 |
| povbot | mgedmin: Error: "has" is not a valid command. | 17:49 |
| mgedmin | annoying users who mention its name is just a side effect | 17:49 |
| betabug | hehe | 17:49 |
| agroszer | mgedmin, nm, I was just wondering why the bot is like this | 17:49 |
| regebro | povbot help me | 17:50 |
| povbot | regebro: Error: There is no command "me". | 17:50 |
| regebro | Haha | 17:50 |
| betabug | povbot stats | 17:50 |
| povbot | betabug: I have 2 registered users with 1 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins. | 17:50 |
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| alexdb | to all zope developers, I'd like to warn you that I've just cursed you to the fifth generation | 18:20 |
| Charlie_X | Thanks | 18:22 |
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| alexdb | it's sad for the innocents kids, I know :) | 18:26 |
| benji | I've had worse. | 18:27 |
| kosh | I already have a life sucking god of death at my command, I am deal with your curse | 18:29 |
| kosh | the issue is can you deal with the repurcussions of your curse | 18:29 |
| kosh | s/am/can | 18:29 |
| alexdb | I've got a jellyfish karma, I can handle | 18:30 |
| * trollfot thinks this is getting nowhere | 18:30 | |
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| alexdb | I just feel better | 18:32 |
| kosh | that is fine with me | 18:32 |
| kosh | I like zope a lot, if you don't that is fine but there is no need to troll | 18:33 |
| kosh | besides trolling is pretty darn boring | 18:33 |
| kosh | betabug: so how are things with your code going? | 18:33 |
| Charlie_X | kosh I think he's just being sarcastic | 18:34 |
| trollfot | kosh: leave trolls alone, you bully | 18:34 |
| trollfot | Trolls need love too. And food. | 18:34 |
| trollfot | This is just insulting. | 18:34 |
| alexdb | I'm not trolling, I didn't said the D. word | 18:34 |
| Charlie_X | alexdb: as far as I know there are multiple D. words | 18:35 |
| kosh | well I am not planning on having another generation anyways | 18:35 |
| kosh | I plan to get rid of my body and replace it with a robot | 18:35 |
| Charlie_X | But, hey, we're Zope developers and proud of our scars. | 18:35 |
| CIA-82 | faassen janjaapdriessen-resource-publisher * r118536 hurry.resource/src/hurry/resource/ (tests.py README.txt core.py): URL generation in a saner place now. | 18:36 |
| CIA-82 | janwijbrand janjaapdriessen-resource-publisher * r118537 hurry.resource/src/hurry/resource/ (publisher.py __init__.py README.txt core.py): split resource publisher from the delegator functionality "middleware" | 18:36 |
| CIA-82 | janwijbrand janjaapdriessen-resource-publisher * r118538 hurry.resource/src/hurry/resource/ (publisher.py README.txt wsgi.py): anticipate on passing on configuration to the needed inclusions object in the inject middleware | 18:36 |
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| Charlie_X | alexdb: my curse today is on allergies and anti-histamines. | 18:44 |
| kosh | Charlie_X: allergies are pretty horrible | 18:46 |
| kosh | Charlie_X: that is why I live where I do, as long as my parents live where they are visiting every few years is about the best they can expect | 18:46 |
| Charlie_X | kosh that sounds pretty enigmatic. What particular allergies do you suffer from? | 18:47 |
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| Charlie_X | I'm getting desensitised to tree pollen and the subcutaneous jabs itch like hell. So I have to take anti-histamine knockout pills. | 18:48 |
| kosh | pretty much breathing and sinus allergies from some kind of thing that exists in the pacific northwest | 18:48 |
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| kosh | the medicine strong enough to deal with that has side effects | 18:48 |
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| Charlie_X | Sounds nasty. I picked up my tree allergies a few years ago. Until then I'd got by with mild hayfever. | 18:49 |
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| benji | sounds like a parasitic infrection is in order (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/AllergiesNews/story?id=8114307&page=1) | 18:54 |
| Charlie_X | benji the guy is a charlatan, but, yes, there is work being done in that direction. Although my understanding thus far has been that it is more important for children to stop them developing autoimmune problems. | 18:57 |
| Charlie_X | Allergies are a bit more complex. | 18:58 |
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| CIA-82 | janwijbrand janjaapdriessen-resource-publisher * r118539 hurry.resource/src/hurry/resource/publisher.py: take publisher_signature from local config | 19:10 |
| CIA-82 | faassen janjaapdriessen-resource-publisher * r118540 hurry.resource/src/hurry/resource/ (__init__.py README.txt core.py): | 19:10 |
| CIA-82 | Configuration was drastically changed. Many conveniences were taken | 19:10 |
| CIA-82 | away in favor of just passing the information to NeededInclusions. | 19:10 |
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| kosh | Charlie_X: apparently the allergy is fairly common in the pacific northwest and I get it is not a true allergy | 20:02 |
| kosh | Charlie_X: supposed to be some kind of mite that grows in pollen, dust etc in damp climates | 20:03 |
| kosh | Charlie_X: some people react more strongly to that mite then others | 20:03 |
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| betabug | hey kosh | 21:04 |
| betabug | my code's fine, except for that one stupid bug | 21:04 |
| betabug | where I have kind of a "circular reference" in 2 catalog indexes | 21:04 |
| betabug | which leads to random failures when reindexing an object | 21:05 |
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| kosh | betabug: ah that does not sound fun to fix | 21:14 |
| betabug | nope | 21:14 |
| kosh | betabug: I have an issue where sometimes a catalog gets out of sync with the objects, but I have never managed to track it down, ever test I run says it should always update | 21:15 |
| betabug | basically every approach I tried so far is ugly (and mostly uncertain) | 21:15 |
| betabug | well, here it's quite simple: | 21:15 |
| betabug | 2 kinds of objects: jobs and invoices | 21:15 |
| betabug | each job can have multiple invoices, each invoice can be for multiple jobs | 21:16 |
| betabug | so there is one index for "most relevant invoice date" | 21:16 |
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| betabug | and one for "which paper goes with which job" | 21:16 |
| betabug | when you reindex a job, it's a matter of luck which index gets deleted an recalculated first | 21:17 |
| betabug | if it's the "which paper goes with which job", I win | 21:17 |
| betabug | if the "most relevant date" is first (while the job/paper is still empty), I lose | 21:18 |
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| CIA-82 | hannosch * r118541 /zopetoolkit/doc/source/releaseteam/meeting-20101109.rst: Whitespace and spelling correction | 21:18 |
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| kosh | I wonder what a good way to solve it would be | 21:18 |
| betabug | me too :-) | 21:19 |
| betabug | I looked at some kind of "caching" of one of the indexes, but it suxx | 21:20 |
| kosh | I was thinking of looking at the catalog sources to see if there is a way to specify an index to update | 21:20 |
| kosh | and then run two queries update the first then update the next | 21:20 |
| betabug | best solution I have come up so far is to always reindex the "date" index after reindexing the job index, but really ugly if you forget it somewhere | 21:20 |
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| betabug | yes, you can reindex a single index | 21:21 |
| kosh | no I mean update the entry for a single object in a singel index | 21:21 |
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| kosh | so when the object is changed instead of calling a general reindex have it call the exact indexes you want to update in the order you want | 21:21 |
| betabug | yes, you can do that | 21:22 |
| betabug | but you have to be sure to never forget to do it somewhere in the code | 21:22 |
| kosh | that seems like that would solve the problem | 21:22 |
| kosh | oh I don't put that stuff in multiple places | 21:22 |
| kosh | I would have a single method that you called for reindexing the object and put the code in there | 21:22 |
| betabug | hmmm, right | 21:23 |
| betabug | a little bit better like that | 21:23 |
| betabug | and then I can check that there is no "job.reindex_object" in the code | 21:25 |
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| kosh | I mean you already call some kind of reindex object method when ou change anyways to notify a catalog | 21:25 |
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| kosh | so just put a more intelligent reindexing in there instead of the standard stuff | 21:25 |
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| betabug | yeah | 21:26 |
| betabug | I even have 2 or 3 spots where I only reindex only a single index on an object already | 21:26 |
| betabug | I try to do that more often, as it reduces db growth | 21:27 |
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| kosh | I seem to have really slow db growth already but probably a lot of issues that go into that | 21:28 |
| kosh | one major thing is any data structure that gets mutated can't be a list, dictionary, tuple etc | 21:29 |
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| hannosch | j-w, ccomb: evening! | 21:30 |
| j-w | hi hannosch, ccomb | 21:30 |
| ccomb | hi | 21:31 |
| hannosch | whooo, we all made it :) | 21:31 |
| ccomb | I might not have a good connection | 21:31 |
| betabug | kosh: yeah, I *never* do that | 21:32 |
| ccomb | I'm in a car with my phone | 21:32 |
| betabug | ccomb: I hope you're not driving! | 21:32 |
| hannosch | ccomb: uh. should we postpone by some time then? | 21:32 |
| kosh | betabug: that makes a major difference to db growth rate | 21:32 |
| betabug | yeah | 21:32 |
| ccomb | I'm not :) | 21:32 |
| j-w | ok | 21:32 |
| j-w | besides the usual typos, anything to remark on the minutes? | 21:33 |
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| hannosch | j-w: nope. looked good, +1 | 21:33 |
| ccomb | I'm more available in a few hours when at home | 21:33 |
| j-w | ccomb: in a few hours I'll be asleep :) | 21:34 |
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| * hannosch too | 21:34 | |
| j-w | a very tiny few hours actaully ;) | 21:34 |
| ccomb | ok so no pb for now, Im just writing sslowly | 21:35 |
| j-w | ok | 21:35 |
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| j-w | uhm, hannosch you did the 1.0.1 release, cool | 21:36 |
| hannosch | yep | 21:36 |
| hannosch | one task done | 21:36 |
| j-w | yes | 21:36 |
| j-w | i moved the zope.,app. packages to the deprecated-section | 21:36 |
| j-w | on the ztk trunk | 21:36 |
| j-w | ccomb: were you able to update the versions on the ztk trunk? | 21:37 |
| ccomb | I'll do that tonight | 21:37 |
| j-w | ok | 21:37 |
| j-w | on the distribute versus setuptools front | 21:38 |
| j-w | there were some comments on the zope list about our decision to go for distribute | 21:38 |
| hannosch | ah, bikeshed topic :) | 21:38 |
| j-w | well, yes and no | 21:38 |
| j-w | one remark was not to rely on distribute-specifics | 21:39 |
| j-w | in order to be able to interchange one an another | 21:39 |
| j-w | i can see that | 21:39 |
| hannosch | j-w: that's fine. and has been the policy so far | 21:39 |
| j-w | ok | 21:39 |
| hannosch | except where distribute offers you 2to3 support in setup.py | 21:39 |
| j-w | aha, right 3-support... | 21:40 |
| hannosch | I imagine Lennart is actually relying on that for some packages | 21:40 |
| j-w | saw the mail exchange with lennart | 21:40 |
| j-w | right | 21:40 |
| hannosch | I can try to test if the updated packages actually rely on distribute | 21:41 |
| j-w | ok... can you explain what you'd be looking for? | 21:41 |
| hannosch | run them with a normal setuptools and see if that can install them | 21:41 |
| j-w | aha, ok, i see | 21:41 |
| hannosch | maybe it ignores unknown keywords in the setup function | 21:42 |
| hannosch | but maybe not | 21:42 |
| hannosch | better to check | 21:42 |
| j-w | yeah | 21:42 |
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| hannosch | ok. So I'll look into this and we can discuss distribute next time? | 21:43 |
| j-w | +1 | 21:43 |
| hannosch | one kinda task is the Python 3 roadmap itself | 21:44 |
| hannosch | you've seen Lennarts mail. I'll ask him to sent that to zope-dev, so more people know about it | 21:44 |
| j-w | working on the porting? or making the roadmap clear? | 21:44 |
| j-w | ok | 21:44 |
| j-w | has this been is sole work so far? | 21:45 |
| j-w | *his | 21:45 |
| hannosch | others helped | 21:45 |
| j-w | ok | 21:45 |
| j-w | another thing: i noticed a few packages that declare a minimum version of a dep that is not yet available | 21:45 |
| hannosch | like Martin von Löwis with distribute and ZODB | 21:45 |
| j-w | on their trunk | 21:45 |
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| hannosch | hhm. should we get a "needs release" script? | 21:46 |
| j-w | is that something that concerns us, as in the ztk-team? | 21:46 |
| j-w | hmm, yeah, something like that | 21:46 |
| j-w | it makes testing in buildbot difficult I guess | 21:47 |
| j-w | the current situation I mean | 21:47 |
| * j-w tries to remember what package he noticed | 21:47 | |
| hannosch | yep. I'd say you shouldn't require an unreleased version in general | 21:47 |
| j-w | sometimes you need to, when related work is done | 21:48 |
| j-w | at THA we use mr.developer for that | 21:48 |
| hannosch | sure. but you can do that in one step, or use branches | 21:48 |
| j-w | hmm, right | 21:48 |
| hannosch | we do have mr.developer and auto-checkout in the ztk as well | 21:48 |
| j-w | but I do not think people would want to work with mr.developer in the individual packages | 21:49 |
| j-w | so, the branches-suggestion would be better `i think | 21:49 |
| j-w | unless we do not want to buildbot-test the trunks | 21:49 |
| hannosch | yep. the trunk of a package should always be in a releasable state | 21:49 |
| j-w | i'll make a list of ztk packages that have this issue right now | 21:50 |
| hannosch | ok. cool | 21:50 |
| j-w | (ccomb you reading all of this? :) ) | 21:50 |
| hannosch | let's see how many we have. then we can decide if we need a policy or a script for it | 21:50 |
| j-w | ok | 21:50 |
| ccomb | j-w yes I do | 21:51 |
| j-w | anything else? | 21:51 |
| hannosch | not from me | 21:52 |
| j-w | not from me either | 21:52 |
| ccomb | should we consider distutils2 soon ? | 21:52 |
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| * j-w is not very much up to date with the setuptools, distribute, disutils2 situation | 21:52 | |
| j-w | is there something to read about all of this? | 21:52 |
| hannosch | ccomb: I'd like to see some blog posts or experiences posted by people using it first | 21:52 |
| j-w | or is it all on the disutils-sig? | 21:52 |
| ccomb | there is a nice static config file (setup.cfg) | 21:53 |
| hannosch | the ZTK isn't really a good place to experiment with bleeding edge stuff :) | 21:53 |
| ccomb | tarek's blog contains posts about it | 21:53 |
| j-w | ok, i'll try to read a bit more about it | 21:53 |
| j-w | but I tend to agree with hannosch | 21:54 |
| j-w | the zc.buildout-1.5.x stuff didn't land too wel in grok just yet | 21:54 |
| j-w | as an example | 21:54 |
| ccomb | ok | 21:54 |
| j-w | next meeting? | 21:55 |
| j-w | 07/12 ? | 21:55 |
| hannosch | works for me | 21:55 |
| hannosch | 20:30 again? | 21:55 |
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| ccomb | ok for me too | 21:56 |
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| hannosch | cool. meeting adjourned :) | 21:57 |
| hannosch | j-w: you are allowed to sleep now ;) | 21:57 |
| j-w | :-) | 21:58 |
| * j-w snores | 21:58 | |
| j-w | but, thanks guys, have a nice evening | 21:58 |
| hannosch | ccomb: safe trip home :) | 21:58 |
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| ccomb | hannosch thanks, the road is clear | 22:01 |
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| CIA-82 | hannosch * r118542 zopetoolkit/ (zopeapp.cfg zopeapp-versions.cfg): Expose the deprecation status of packages in the versions file in addition to the spec - the versions file is the one used and seen by most people | 22:05 |
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