IRC log of #zope for Monday, 2011-01-10

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CIA-78andreasjung * r119459 zopyx.smartprintng.server/setup.py: pinned pyramid_xmlrpc==0.109:18
CIA-78andreasjung * r119460 zopyx.smartprintng.server/ (buildout.cfg docs/HISTORY.txt setup.py): updated09:18
CIA-78andreasjung * r119461 /zopyx.smartprintng.server/tags/0.7.1: 'creating tag svn+ssh://andreasjung@svn.zope.org/repos/main/zopyx.smartprintng.server/tags/0.7.1 from svn+ssh://andreasjung@svn.zope.org/repos/main/zopyx.smartprintng.server/trunk'09:18
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planetzopebotPyramid's Optimizations (plope)  http://plope.com/pyroptimization11:04
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CIA-78janjaapdriessen * r119462 /grokproject/branches/janjaapdriessen-fanstatic: Move new features to feature branch.11:32
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bhagatto add a user registration-login-retrievepassword   option for a zope 2.10  site,   what the common way of doing it?11:44
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bhagatis there any tutorial  for doing this,  anybody can have  a link to refer11:45
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CIA-78janjaapdriessen * r119463 grokproject/ (16 files in 7 dirs): Moved all fanstatic features to the feature branch in order to make way for 2.3 release.11:48
CIA-78janjaapdriessen * r119464 grokproject/grokproject/template/etc/deploy.ini.in_tmpl: 2.2.1 bugfix.11:48
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CIA-78fretin * r119465 grokproject/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): Preparing release 2.312:20
CIA-78fretin * r119466 /grokproject/tags/2.3: Tagging 2.312:20
CIA-78fretin * r119467 grokproject/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): Back to development: 2.412:20
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klawdhi! can i safely define an the __init__ method in an interface?16:42
mgedminit would be a bit pointless16:43
mgedminthat would mean that if you have an object obj providing IFoo, which defines an __init__, then you're allowed to call obj.__init__()16:43
mgedminwhich almost nobody ever does16:44
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mgedminif you want to document the constructor, define a different interface, say IFooFactory, with __call__16:44
mgedminthen your Foo class would implement(IFoo) and directly provide IFooFactory16:44
mgedminwhich means Foo(x, y, z) is documented by IFooFactory.__call__16:44
mgedminwhile all the methods of the foo object that you get from Foo(...) are documented by IFoo16:45
klawdsounds like boilerplate tbh16:46
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klawdcreating a factory just to document the constructor arguments i mean16:47
mgedminmost people just don't document constructor arguments16:48
klawdwhy so?16:49
klawd+ do i need to call implements in deriving classes?16:50
mgedmin"need" is such a word ...16:51
mgedmintechnically, you don't need to use interfaces16:51
mgedminanyway, back to the question16:51
mgedminno, if a base class declares that it implements(ISomeInterface)16:51
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mgedminthen all subclasses automatically implement that interface16:52
klawdright, thanks16:52
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CIA-78janwijbrand * r119468 grok/ (5 files): split out parts from the main buildout.cfg, like for building the documentation17:00
CIA-78janwijbrand * r119469 grok/documentation.cfg: it is svn17:00
CIA-78jim * r119470 /Sandbox/J1m/dozodb/ (6 files in 2 dirs): checkpoint17:00
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CIA-78jim * r119471 /Sandbox/J1m/dozodb/spidermonkey.profile.js: checkpoint17:30
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davetooAny ideas about cross-site replication strategies/tools for filesystem-backed ZEO replication?18:09
benjidavetoo: like ZRS? (http://customers.zope.com/ZRS/)18:11
davetooif $client had a budget, perhaps :)18:11
davetooI wish it were that simple18:12
benjiit's not quite what I'd call "replication" but you can copy the data.fs files around18:13
davetooI'm currently thinking about shipping incremental repozo backups around, yeah18:14
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mgedminzeoraid might be worth looking at, maybe18:14
davetooin this app I've seen Data.fs grow to well over 1G pretty quickly (more quickly than I would have expected)18:15
mgedminsome people use RelStorage together with RDBMS-level replication, I hear18:15
mgedminData.fs is append-only storage; you may want to investigate what transactions are being committed there18:15
davetooThe next generation of this app uses RelStorage, yeah, but that version's not even in beta yet18:15
mgedminor pack it regularly18:15
davetooyes; then the task would be to find which would be better at keeping the standby systems current: regular packing and complete transfers, or incremental repozo dumps/restores with occasional full transfers after a repack18:17
davetooI would love to find a gateway from ZEO to relstorage :)18:18
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CIA-78gotcha * r119472 /Sandbox/gotcha/five.taskqueue/trunk/src/five/taskqueue/service.py: 2.12 support18:44
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CIA-78janwijbrand * r119473 /zopetoolkit/doc/source/releaseteam/ (meeting-20110104.rst meeting-20101214.rst index.rst): update the ztk releaseteam meeting minutes19:04
CIA-78jim * r119474 /Sandbox/J1m/dozodb/ (src/zc/dozodb/tests.py buildout.cfg):19:04
CIA-78Added recipe to do spidermonkey dojo build.19:04
CIA-78Updated test script definition to set doh=jo baseUrl so it's not hard19:04
CIA-78coded in the test scrips.19:04
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CIA-78ccomb * r119475 /bluebream/website/ (10 files in 4 dirs): website design22:40
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CIA-78ccomb * r119475 /bluebream/website/ (10 files in 4 dirs): website design22:59
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CIA-78janjaapdriessen * r119476 /Sandbox/janjaapdriessen/buildbot/buildout.cfg: Add more fanstatic packages.23:34
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