IRC log of #zope for Tuesday, 2011-02-15

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planetzopebotCioppino Sprint (Ross Patterson)  http://rpatterson.net/blog/cioppino-sprint01:04
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CIA-85tseaver tseaver-python_picklecache-2 * r120337 ZODB/src/persistent/ (pypersistent.py tests/test_pypersistent.py):02:25
CIA-85Snapshot of work toward implementing IPersistent in pure Python.02:25
CIA-85No attempt yet to do the metaclass work, including integration with the02:25
CIA-85pickle cache.02:25
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CIA-85tlotze * r120338 zope.componentvocabulary/src/zope/componentvocabulary/tests/test_configure.py: fixes missing import08:47
CIA-85tlotze * r120339 zope.site/ (4 files in 3 dirs): include zcml dependencies in configure.zcml, added tests for zcml08:47
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CIA-85nilo * r120340 /hurry.resource/branches/0.9: create 0.9 branch11:37
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CIA-85nilo 0.9 * r120341 hurry.resource/src/hurry/resource/ (__init__.py README.txt): merged fix for importerror from 0.10: if the webob dependency is missing we fail silently12:31
CIA-85nilo 0.9 * r120342 hurry.resource/CHANGES.txt: update changes.txt12:31
CIA-85icemac 0.9 * r120343 hurry.resource/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): Preparing release 0.9.112:31
CIA-85icemac * r120344 /hurry.resource/tags/0.9.1: Tagging 0.9.112:31
CIA-85icemac 0.9 * r120345 hurry.resource/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): Back to development: 0.9.212:31
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_mup_Bug #719369 was filed: zope.testrunner does not handle unexpected test successes but it claims to do so <zope.testrunner:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/719369 >17:13
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CIA-85tlotze * r120346 zope.annotation/ (5 files in 3 dirs): include zcml dependencies in configure.zcml, require the necessary packages via a zcml extra, added tests for zcml18:23
CIA-85tlotze * r120347 zope.copypastemove/ (5 files in 3 dirs): include zcml dependencies in configure.zcml, require the necessary packages via a zcml extra, added tests for zcml18:23
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CIA-85tseaver tseaver-python_picklecache-2 * r120348 ZODB/src/persistent/ (pypersistent.py tests/test_pypersistent.py):20:26
CIA-85Fix semantics for 'del obj._p_changed'.20:26
CIA-85Unlike assigning 'obj._p_changed = None', deleting must unconditionally20:26
CIA-85invalidate the object.20:26
CIA-85tseaver tseaver-python_picklecache-2 * r120349 ZODB/src/persistent/ (pypersistent.py tests/test_pypersistent.py): Semantics of '_p_deactivate()' identical to assigning None to '_p_changed'.20:26
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BGaddiewhat version of ZODB does Zope 2.10.11 ship with?21:17
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Theuni1i guess 3.921:22
Theuni1oh wait21:22
Theuni13.821:22
BGaddiedoes it matter if it's 3.8.3 or 3.8.6?21:22
BGaddielike either one *should* work21:23
Theuni1but the latter one will have less bugs ;)21:25
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CIA-85jim * r120350 /Sandbox/J1m/customdoctests/src/zc/customdoctests/js.py:21:34
CIA-85Added work around for python-spidermonkey problem when exceptions are21:34
CIA-85raised while loading when load is caled from JS code.21:34
CIA-85trollfot * r120351 zope.session/ (src/zope/session/adapters.zcml CHANGES.txt): Added an explicit `provides` for the IClientId adapter in adapter.zcml. This allow more readability and prevents any conflict if interfaces are implemented by the `str` python builtin.21:34
CIA-85tseaver tseaver-python_picklecache-2 * r120352 ZODB/src/persistent/ (pypersistent.py tests/test_pypersistent.py): Rename '_p_state' -> '_p_status' to avoid clash with C.21:34
CIA-85tseaver tseaver-python_picklecache-2 * r120353 ZODB/src/persistent/ (pypersistent.py tests/test_pypersistent.py):21:34
CIA-85Add extra properties from the C implementation.21:34
CIA-85These attributes are not defined in IPersistent.21:34
CIA-85hannosch * r120354 Products.ZCatalog/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Fixed the `DateIndex._unindex` to be of type `IIBTree` instead of `OIBTree`. It stores document ids as keys, which can only be ints.21:34
CIA-85hannosch * r120355 Products.ZCatalog/ (setup.py CHANGES.txt): Prepare Products.ZCatalog 2.13.7.21:34
CIA-85hannosch * r120356 /Products.ZCatalog/tags/2.13.7: Tagged Products.ZCatalog 2.13.7.21:34
CIA-85hannosch * r120357 Products.ZCatalog/ (setup.py CHANGES.txt): vb21:34
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prinzdezibelHi. Can a zope.Container contain anything else than a persitent object? I want to add a volatile item to the container. How can I do this?21:50
prinzdezibelan instance of a plain python class yields: object has no attribute '__parent__'21:51
prinzdezibelI can implement ILocation to have __name__ and __parent__ , but then the contained items gets pickled into zodb. And this is what I don't want.21:51
prinzdezibelAnybody ?21:52
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TresEquisprinzdezibel, what do you mean by "volatile"?22:04
prinzdezibelA non-persistable object22:04
TresEquisif the object doesn't get saved to the database, how will other connections see it?22:04
prinzdezibelthe contained objects get created in __setstate__ of the parent container22:04
prinzdezibelThey are not intended for persistence22:05
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prinzdezibelbut I can't prevent the pickling into zodb.22:05
TresEquisYou can clear the parent's _p_changed after setting up those attributes22:05
TresEquisbut they will still get saved any the time the parent gets saved22:05
prinzdezibelhmm. what can I do about that?22:06
TresEquismaybe you could define these things as properties, rather than sub-objects?22:06
prinzdezibelIs it the wrong approach I'M taking?22:06
TresEquisProbably22:06
prinzdezibelhmm22:06
TresEquisyou store volatile state in attributes named '_v_something'22:07
TresEquisbut you won't be able to use such names in URLs under the stock security policies22:07
prinzdezibelTresEquis: sure, but in my case I need to adhere to getstate/setstate protocol22:07
TresEquisbut you could have a Python property which used the '_v_' attribute22:08
prinzdezibelmaybe I should rather accept the fact that a container is always supposed to contain other persistent objects or immutables.22:08
prinzdezibelright?!22:08
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TresEquispretty much22:09
prinzdezibelBut then my child object is not good the way it is22:09
prinzdezibellet's refactor!22:09
TresEquisyou could use a class whose methods for getting sub-objects return transient objects22:09
prinzdezibelhmm22:09
TresEquismaybe computed from the '_v_' state you stashed earlier22:09
prinzdezibelyou mean overwrite __getitem__ ?22:09
TresEquisyes22:09
TresEquisor '_getObject' in Zope222:10
prinzdezibelbtw, why aren't there channel for both frameworks ?22:10
prinzdezibel:)22:10
prinzdezibelzope3 here22:10
TresEquisprinzdezibel, there used to be22:11
TresEquisbut "pure" Zope3 (the big framework part) lost momentum22:12
TresEquisthese days you would find those folks here, or in #grok or #bluebream22:12
prinzdezibelTresEquis: grok is the place I'm hanging around mostly22:13
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