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| CIA-85 | yuppie * r120559 Products.GenericSetup/ (3 files in 3 dirs): | 10:32 |
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| CIA-85 | - fixed two 'date' property issues | 10:32 |
| CIA-85 | - refactored PropertyManagerHelpers tests | 10:32 |
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| nijan | Hello all, I am a newbie in zope but I have spent some time with markup languages and python. I'm going to write a sort of news website with a search engine. I read through most zope documentation and find it perfect for my need. Still, I'm pretty bad as a webdesigner/gfx, so I was considering plone. I downloaded plone as it was a 'plugin' for zope, but when I created a plone site it was hell. My question is, would you suggest me to use zope and look for module | 12:35 |
| nijan | s (or whatever they're called) that add the functionalities I need like 'news', 'search', 'calendar' etc. or just take zope and get rid of all the stuff I don't need? Or, is it possible to take packages from plone and use them in zope? | 12:35 |
| nijan | Thanks | 12:35 |
| betabug | nijan: Zope is a web application server, people use it to build applications that run on it | 12:36 |
| nijan | Yes, got it. | 12:37 |
| betabug | plone is not a "plugin", plone is one such application, a very big one | 12:37 |
| betabug | personally I'd suggest that if plone does not do 90% or more of what you do, leave the fingers from it | 12:37 |
| betabug | next, there are some other "Products" to run on Zope, like wikis, blogs, and other stuff, but mostly people seem to build their own | 12:38 |
| nijan | Thanks, my doubts arose when I saw that plone add a lot of useful add-ons. For example, it would have been useful to implement something like Solgema Fullcalendar http://plone.org/products/solgema.fullcalendar | 12:39 |
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| betabug | it is not likely that something like that will be able to run outside plone | 12:40 |
| mcdonc | plone is great if it does exactly what you want out of the box | 12:41 |
| mcdonc | and i do mean exactly | 12:41 |
| mcdonc | dont assume it will be easy to remove things | 12:41 |
| mcdonc | or change the way things behave | 12:42 |
| nijan | mcdonc, exactly what I've experienced | 12:42 |
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| nijan | I thought i could just copy some css and templates, but it doesn't seem to work like that. | 12:42 |
| nijan | Is there any add-ons for zope that ease the task of setting up a news web-site structure | 12:43 |
| nijan | ? | 12:43 |
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| nijan | Starting from scratch looks like a pain to me. | 12:44 |
| mcdonc | i doubt there's much agreement on what "news web-site structure" means | 12:45 |
| betabug | yeah | 12:45 |
| betabug | a blog would fit the description :-) | 12:45 |
| nijan | some templates + css, plus code to manage news and to search thme | 12:45 |
| nijan | Or any of these : / | 12:45 |
| mcdonc | there are tons of blog applications out there | 12:46 |
| betabug | a couple of home made objects, with some python and page templates would do too | 12:46 |
| mcdonc | (albeit not really in zope) | 12:46 |
| mcdonc | although these days most people just use wordpress or some hosted blog | 12:47 |
| betabug | mcdonc: defacebook now, you're so last century! | 12:48 |
| nijan | I guess I wouldn't like that. Well, I found some products that could be useful to start with. | 12:48 |
| mcdonc | right, facebook, silly me | 12:48 |
| betabug | nijan: I use coreblog, adapted a lot | 12:48 |
| nijan | I'll take a look at it, even though I need something more poweful than a blog. For example, it should include a way to manage users, and allow them to publish their news. | 12:50 |
| mcdonc | fwiw, the boston globe runs zope (i think still).. but the code isn't public ;-) | 12:50 |
| betabug | it's not really supported by the author any more, but that doesn't stop me :-) | 12:50 |
| mcdonc | so you can imagine there's a wide interpretation of "news web-site structure" | 12:50 |
| nijan | I agree | 12:51 |
| nijan | : ) | 12:51 |
| nijan | I hink a collection of products and some glue scripting will do well. | 12:51 |
| nijan | And no plone. | 12:51 |
| nijan | Thanks a lot for the help. | 12:52 |
| betabug | no problem, you're welcome | 12:52 |
| mcdonc | np | 12:52 |
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| CIA-85 | lra * r120560 five.pt/src/five/pt/ (pagetemplate.py tests/test_persistenttemplate.py patches.py): Avoid unnecessary recompilations and fix security for the TALES 'repeat' object | 13:45 |
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| zobbo_ | I have two objects within a cmf site with the same cmf_uid. How can I replace the cmf_uid on one of the items with a new one? Finding it hard to find any concrete examples for the portal_uid* tools | 15:19 |
| zobbo_ | most of my searching has just brought back commit messages that mention them | 15:20 |
| CIA-85 | adamg * r120561 z3c.json/TODO.txt: added TODO: change exceptions.ProtocolError to be pickleable | 15:31 |
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| d2m | zobbo_: does the cmf_uid change wen you copy the object? | 16:01 |
| zobbo_ | d2m, hi, no - and trying to reimport it threw me an error. But I've solved it using portal_uidhandler.unregister(obj) and register(obj) | 16:03 |
| d2m | i remember there is was an option to recreate objects with the same uid on import | 16:03 |
| zobbo_ | yes, unfortunately the reimport failed :(. old old code - very crufty | 16:04 |
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| CIA-85 | yuppie * r120562 Products.CMFDefault/Products/CMFDefault/ (2 files in 2 dirs): - use getProperty for member properties | 19:24 |
| CIA-85 | yuppie * r120563 Products.CMFDefault/Products/CMFDefault/browser/membership/preferences.py: - fixed context (the acquired user folder might be outside the portal) | 19:25 |
| CIA-85 | yuppie * r120564 Products.CMFDefault/Products/CMFDefault/browser/membership/configure.zcml: - use a permission members usually have | 19:25 |
| CIA-85 | yuppie * r120565 Products.CMFDefault/Products/CMFDefault/ (6 files in 4 dirs): - fixed 'login_time' handling | 19:25 |
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| twrydan | could somebody explain me how to use the i18n getFormatter function on zope 2.13.4? that'd be very much appreciated… I'm getting an unauthorized error when I try | 20:35 |
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| prinzdezibel | Does zope3 has standard roles? (not standard groups) | 21:41 |
| prinzdezibel | It seemed first to me: http://dist.martinaspeli.net/lw/4.%20Workflow%20and%20Security.txt | 21:42 |
| prinzdezibel | But: <grant permission="p2.Enumeratable" role="Anonymous" /> | 21:43 |
| prinzdezibel | yields:ConfigurationError: ('Invalid value for', 'role', 'Anonymous') | 21:43 |
| prinzdezibel | Any hint? | 21:44 |
| prinzdezibel | But probably that doc is plone only | 21:44 |
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| prinzdezibel | Anybody? | 21:46 |
| avn | prinzdezibel: mb you need to declare role Anonymous (or zope.Anonymous? -- I'm not sure exactly) | 21:52 |
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| prinzdezibel | Yes, that is my question. | 21:53 |
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| avn | prinzdezibel: role for zope.Anonymous defined in zope/securitypolicy/securitypolicy.zcml | 22:15 |
| prinzdezibel | avn: then a <include package="zope.app.securitypolicy" /> should suffice?! | 22:16 |
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| avn | prinzdezibel: not sure, try <include package="zope.securitypolicy" file="securitypolicy.zcml"/> (at least default configure.zcml inside zope.securitypolicy don't include it by default | 22:33 |
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| prinzdezibel | avn, ok | 22:34 |
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| CIA-85 | davisagli * r120566 Products.GenericSetup/ (2 files in 2 dirs): sort the list of extension profiles on the import form alphabetically | 22:42 |
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| do3cc | is there a way to correctly run the tests for the peristent package standalone? | 22:48 |
| do3cc | the buildout config creates a test runner that fails due to missing dependencies | 22:48 |
| do3cc | after installing the missing dependencies I get about 50% failures | 22:49 |
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