IRC log of #zope for Wednesday, 2011-03-02

planetzopebotThe 10 Python Conferences Happening at PyCon 2011 (part 3) (The PyCon blog)
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CIA-85janwijbrand * r120635 grokcore.view/ (CHANGES.txt Back to development: 2.500:54
CIA-85janwijbrand * r120636 grokui.base/ (CHANGES.txt Preparing release 0.5.100:54
CIA-85janwijbrand * r120637 /grokui.base/tags/0.5.1: Tagging 0.5.100:54
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kazoothat's a error i got01:18
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CIA-85janwijbrand * r120635 grokcore.view/ (CHANGES.txt Back to development: 2.501:37
CIA-85janwijbrand * r120636 grokui.base/ (CHANGES.txt Preparing release 0.5.101:37
CIA-85janwijbrand * r120637 /grokui.base/tags/0.5.1: Tagging 0.5.101:37
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CIA-85janwijbrand * r120637 /grokui.base/tags/0.5.1: Tagging 0.5.102:23
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CIA-85janwijbrand * r120637 /grokui.base/tags/0.5.1: Tagging 0.5.103:54
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nmcbridequick question for everyone06:22
nmcbridei have a zodb using zeo06:22
nmcbridemy web app is connected and working fine06:23
nmcbridei connect with pshell06:23
nmcbridemodify something06:23
nmcbrideimport transaction06:23
nmcbrideand do06:23
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CIA-85mj * r120639 relstorage/relstorage/adapters/ Alter comment; the policy is to lock when you write to the transaction table, regardless.09:21
CIA-85janwijbrand * r120640 groktoolkit/ (buildout.cfg grok.cfg): update versions of grokcore.view and grokui.admin09:21
CIA-85icemac * r120641 (src/zope/app/zapi/ CHANGES.txt):09:21
CIA-85- Using Python's ``doctest`` module instead of depreacted09:21
CIA-85icemac * r120642 (7 files in 2 dirs): Conform to repository policy.09:21
CIA-85icemac * r120643 (CHANGES.txt src/zope/app/zapi/ - Removed BBB imports of deprecated parts (services, multiviews etc.) which were removed in ``zope.component`` 3.6, thus requiring at least this version.09:21
CIA-85icemac * r120644 (CHANGES.txt Preparing release 3.5.009:21
CIA-85icemac * r120645 / Tagging 3.5.009:21
CIA-85icemac * r120646 (CHANGES.txt Back to development: 3.5.109:21
CIA-85icemac * r120647 -$Id$09:21
CIA-85andreasjung * r120648 zopyx.smartprintng.client/zopyx/smartprintng/client/
CIA-85- removed old convertZIP() API09:21
CIA-85- optional workdir parameter for convertZIP2()09:21
CIA-85hannosch 1.0 * r120649 zopetoolkit/ztk-versions.cfg: New bugfix releases09:21
CIA-85hannosch 1.0 * r120650 zopetoolkit/zopeapp-versions.cfg: One more bugfix release09:21
CIA-85zagy * r120651 Acquisition/ (3 files in 2 dirs):09:21
CIA-85- Fixed bug: When an object did not implement ``__unicode__``, calling09:21
CIA-85``unicode(wrapped)`` was calling ``__str__`` with an unwrapped ``self``.09:21
CIA-85(reported by David Glick on zope-dev)09:21
CIA-85hannosch 1.1 * r120652 zopetoolkit/ztk-versions.cfg: Bugfix updates09:21
CIA-85ldr * r120653 z3c.blobfile/ (CHANGES.txt bump version09:21
CIA-85shane * r120654 relstorage/relstorage/ (9 files in 3 dirs): Added blob cache tests by adapting the tests from ZEO. Also, use the ZEO implementation of BlobCacheLayout when it exists.09:21
CIA-85shane * r120655 relstorage/ (8 files in 4 dirs):09:21
CIA-85Support for "shared-blob-dir false" now requires ZODB 3.9 or better.09:21
CIA-85The code in the ZODB 3.8 version of ZODB.blob is not compatible with09:21
CIA-85BlobCacheLayout, leading to blob filename collisions.09:21
CIA-85shane * r120656 relstorage/buildout.cfg: Output coverage to a subdirectory of the buildout09:21
CIA-85shane * r120657 relstorage/relstorage/tests/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Skip more tests with ZODB 3.8 (because it doesn't support a blob cache)09:21
CIA-85tlotze * r120658 /zc.buildout/branches/tlotze-download-hard-links:09:21
CIA-85created branch for making the download utility use hard links in the file09:21
CIA-85system in a safer and more obvious way09:21
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CIA-85icemac * r120659 zc.comment/ (CHANGES.txt src/zc/comment/ added a method which was removed from the base interface years ago but we need it here otherwise we get an ForbiddenAttributeError10:32
CIA-85icemac * r120660 zc.comment/ (src/zc/comment/README.txt CHANGES.txt): tests now run with zope.schema >= 3.610:32
CIA-85icemac * r120661 zc.comment/ (CHANGES.txt src/zc/comment/browser/ fixed tests tu run with zc.table 0.710:33
CIA-85icemac * r120662 zc.comment/ (CHANGES.txt src/zc/comment/ - Using Python's ``doctest`` module instead of depreacted ``zope.testing.doctest``.10:33
CIA-85icemac * r120663 zc.comment/ (12 files in 3 dirs): Conform to repository policy.10:33
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CIA-85icemac * r120664 zc.configuration/ (src/zc/configuration/ CHANGES.txt):10:33
CIA-85- Using Python's ``doctest`` module instead of depreacted10:33
CIA-85icemac * r120665 zc.configuration/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Conform to repository policy.10:33
CIA-85icemac * r120666 zc.copy/ (buildout.cfg CHANGES.txt src/zc/copy/
CIA-85- Added test extra to declare test dependency on ``zope.testing``.10:33
CIA-85- Using Python's ``doctest`` module instead of depreacted10:33
CIA-85icemac * r120667 zc.copy/ (ZopePublicLicense.txt LICENSE.txt COPYRIGHT.txt): Conform to repository policy.10:33
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CIA-85jfroche * r120668 five.grok/ add missing required dependencies13:50
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CIA-85gotcha * r120669 /Products.GenericSetup/branches/gotcha-registries-as-utilities: prepare14:29
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planetzopebotPorting to Python 3: The book is available! (Lennart Regebro: Python, Plone, Web)
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vortechi, i'm trying to override a tab in the ZMI for a custom object in zope2. my approach is using the __init__ method: , but it works only temporarily. is there a better way?15:19
betabughmm, let me check how I do it15:19
betabughmmm, looks like a totally wrong approach15:20
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betabugvortec: you need to set "manage_options" on your object15:21
betabug(getting you an example)15:23
vortecmy class inherits from OrderedBaseFolder so manage_options is there15:23
betabugit's bad code for using ObjectManager, PropertyManager + SimpleItem instead of simply using Folder, but it works :-)15:24
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betabuggetting the format right is sometimes a bit tricky, but you only have to do it once15:25
vortecso what happens if i add a second tab called "View" to manage_options, will it replace the old one?15:25
vorteci'll just try it out.15:26
betabugno, I think since it's a tuple it will show 2 "View" tabs15:26
betabugI think it just loops through the tuple and adds what you tell it to15:26
vortechmm yes :/15:27
vortecso overriding/replacing an existing tab is not so easy?15:27
betabugjust reassemble it to what you need15:27
betabugwell, the ZMI is only for administrators - no real UI should be based on the ZMI15:27
betabugso sparing use is recommended anyway15:27
vortecok, thank you betabug15:28
betabugno problem, you're welcome15:28
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CIA-85andreasjung * r120670 zopyx.smartprintng.client/ (docs/HISTORY.txt updated15:51
CIA-85andreasjung * r120671 /zopyx.smartprintng.client/tags/0.7.0: 'creating tag svn+ssh:// from svn+ssh://'15:51
CIA-85gotcha * r120672 /Products.GenericSetup/branches/ (2 files): better name15:51
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CIA-85icemac * r120673 (5 files in 2 dirs): Include zcml dependencies in ``configure.zcml``, require the necessary packages via a `zcml` extra, added tests for zcml.16:40
CIA-85icemac * r120674 (CHANGES.txt Preparing release 3.7.016:41
CIA-85icemac * r120675 / Tagging 3.7.016:41
CIA-85icemac * r120676 (CHANGES.txt src/zope/app/locales/ Back to development: 3.7.116:41
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zobboDid I imagine it or did there used to be a product that helped in debugging zope permission problems? i.e. Would tell you what item was causing a not unauthorized, together with the permissions needed and the permissions used.18:26
zobboBeen away from zope dev for a while, but I seem to recall something18:26
zobbobut could be losing it18:26
bigkevmcdwhat version of Zope?18:28
CIA-85tlotze tlotze-download-hard-links * r120677 zc.buildout/ (3 files in 2 dirs): implemented new 'shared' parameter for calls to the download utility, tests need to be made pass on all relevant platforms18:29
zobbobigkevmcd, 2.918:32
zobbobigkevmcd, I owe you my life, thank you18:33
bigkevmcdzobbo: I'll send someone round to collect it ;-)18:34
zobboWell it's not a very big one :)18:34
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zobbobigkevmcd, it's for debugging old WebFactory sites. Think you may have been involved with them a long time ago. But I could be mistaken.18:35
bigkevmcdzobbo: oh, yeah18:36
bigkevmcdzobbo: you work for Jamkit?18:36
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CIA-85yuppie * r120678 Products.CMFDefault/Products/CMFDefault/tests/ ( - import rfc1123_date directly from App.Common19:41
CIA-85yuppie * r120679 Products.CMFCore/Products/CMFCore/tests/ (6 files in 2 dirs): - import rfc1123_date directly from App.Common19:41
CIA-85gotcha gotcha-registries-use-utilities * r120680 Products.GenericSetup/Products/GenericSetup/ (6 files in 2 dirs): use named utilities for profiles19:41
CIA-85yuppie * r120681 Products.CMFCore/Products/CMFCore/ (CHANGES.txt tests/ - catch DateTimeErrors19:41
CIA-85ldr * r120682 plone.z3cform/ (docs/HISTORY.txt Prepare plone.z3cform
CIA-85ldr * r120683 /plone.z3cform/tags/0.7.3: Tagged plone.z3cform
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CIA-85shane * r120684 relstorage/ (CHANGES.txt Prep for 1.5.0b220:24
CIA-85shane * r120685 /relstorage/tags/1.5.0b2: Tagged 1.5.0b220:24
CIA-85shane * r120686 relstorage/ (CHANGES.txt back to dev20:24
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J1m_benji, is post-modern doctest debugging supposed to work in manuel these days?22:02
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benjiJ1m_: as far as I know; in fact, didn't you report a bug about it a month or so ago and I fixed it; let me look at the change log22:03
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benjiJ1m_: yep, 1.3.0 had a fix; you might have found a new bug of course :)  what's the problem?22:04
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J1m_I'm calling some python code in a doctest and I'm getting into the pm debigger, but I'm getting left at the doctest code that raises UnexpectedException22:05
J1m_rather than at the original expection.22:05
J1m_I'll see if I can see what's going on.22:05
J1m_Just thought I'd touch base before I dove in.22:06
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J1m_This is tangentially related to something else I was going to bring up at some point, namely the dependence on zope.testrunner.22:07
J1m_So I don't mind spending some time understanding it better.22:07
benjiok, cool22:08
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CIA-85srichter * r120687 z3c.formwidget.ckeditor/ (547 files in 187 dirs):22:23
CIA-85- Upgraded CKEditor to
CIA-85- Removed deprecation warnings.22:23
CIA-85- Get ready for release.22:23
CIA-85srichter * r120688 /z3c.formwidget.ckeditor/tags/1.1.0: Create release tag.22:23
CIA-85srichter * r120689 z3c.formwidget.ckeditor/ (CHANGES.txt svb22:23
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J1m_benji, do you have any idea why manuel uses zope.testrunner.exceptions.DocTestFailureException?22:53
J1m_Removing it doesn't cause any test failures and getting rid of the dependency on zope.testrunner gets rid of a number of dependencies.22:54
J1m_well, especially zope.exceptions and zope.interface22:55
benjiJ1m_: I believe it's because zope.testrunner expects doctests to raise it for... some reason (?) it might have been about formatting the error output, perhaps colorization22:55
J1m_OK, well, zope.testing.testrunner monkeypatches that exception into the standard doctest at doctest.DocTestCase.failureException22:59
J1m_so there's no need to import it from zope.doctest.23:00
J1m_so there's no need to import it from zope.testing.23:00
J1m_is someone is using zope.testing, then the "right" exception will be raised.23:01
J1m_None of this is related to the post-modern debugging problem....23:01
J1m_But I'd like to get rid of the dependency.23:01
J1m_The dependency prevented me from using manuel under jython, as zope.interface doesn't install under jython.23:02
benjithat's cool, we should be able to remove the dependency then (I wonder if that monkeypatching was added recently, I'm pretty sure using that exception was important in the past)23:02
J1m_I'll create a patch and submit it to launchpad.23:03
J1m_I figured out a work around for the PMD issue, so I'll have to get back to that later.23:03
* benji quietly wonders what J1m_ is doing with jython.23:04
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CIA-85hannosch * r120690 Acquisition/ (CHANGES.txt Prepare Acquisition
CIA-85hannosch * r120691 /Acquisition/tags/2.13.7: Tagged Acquisition
CIA-85hannosch * r120692 Acquisition/ (CHANGES.txt vb23:31
CIA-85hannosch 2.12 * r120693 Zope/ (include doc/CHANGES.rst versions.cfg): Acquisition = 2.13.723:31
CIA-85hannosch 2.13 * r120694 Zope/ (doc/CHANGES.rst versions.cfg): Updated AQ23:31
CIA-85hannosch * r120695 Zope/ (doc/CHANGES.rst versions.cfg): Updated AQ23:31
J1m_benji, wrt jython: I wanted to use manuel to run JS tests, so I was going to use jython w rhino.  This was in part because it's hard to get python-spidermonkey to install on Mac. It was also hard to get zope.interface and thus manuel to install in jython.  The zope.interface problem is easy enough to fix, but not something I wanted to deal with then. I just switched to using linux.  Since then, we've gotten python-spidermonkey building on Mac and python-spidermonk23:39
J1m_ey is much nicer than rhino in a number of ways.23:39
J1m_I also want to try to do a jvm ZEO server implementation, to get around the GIL.23:40
benjicool, I've always wanted to play with python-spidermonkey (grand ideas of getting TestBrowser to run JS), but it was unmaintained and a mess last time I looked at it; is it better now?23:41
benjia jvm ZEO server would be a cool experiment23:41
J1m_Yes, although the guy who's maintaining it has a job on his hands.23:42
J1m_It's much faster than rhino and when there's an exception, you can get sane JS tracebacks.23:42
J1m_With rhino, you get useless java tracebacks.23:43
benjicool; now I'm having mad scientist thoughts23:46
J1m_That's my job.23:47
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J1m_benji, see and especially to see how I've been working with it.23:51
J1m_This project will eventually escape my sandbox when I have a chance to write some tests.23:51
J1m_Mainly I've been testing it by using it.23:52
J1m_I've been writing test for our dojo form building machinery by running dojo in python-spider monkey and env.js.23:52
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benjiJ1m_: sounds very cool, I hadn't heard of env.js that looks really interesting23:57

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