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| saju_m | form IPy import IP, IP('10.0.2.253/25') ----> giving ValueError: IP('10.0.2.253/25') has invalid prefix length (25) whats the issue here ???? | 13:03 |
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| betabug-mb | what's IPy? | 13:04 |
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| bigkevmcd | Python lib for handing IPs | 13:05 |
| saju_m | https://github.com/haypo/python-ipy | 13:05 |
| bigkevmcd | obviously not very well :-) | 13:05 |
| betabug-mb | aha | 13:05 |
| bigkevmcd | saju_m: It's not clear what it has to do with Zope tho' ? | 13:05 |
| betabug-mb | yeah | 13:05 |
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| bigkevmcd | amusingly, we are looking to do some subnet stuff in an app, and IPy would probably have been looked at, but not with bugs like that... | 13:07 |
| betabug-mb | maybe when looking at the code it's not that bad? | 13:08 |
| betabug-mb | in the past I've used a perl thingy for this kind of stuff | 13:09 |
| bigkevmcd | betabug-mb: it's hard to see how you could introduce a bug like that, without trying very hard :-) | 13:12 |
| betabug-mb | right | 13:12 |
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| Allmity | how python is different among those scripting language. | 16:07 |
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| kosh | hail freaks! | 16:40 |
| kosh | Allmity: first tell us what a scripting language is vs a non-scripting language | 16:40 |
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| kosh | Allmity: the problem is that scripting language is not realy defined and the meaning seems to change with whoever asks the question | 16:41 |
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| kosh | like some consider java to be a non scripting language and consider python to be a scripting language even though both compile to bytecode and run in a vm | 16:41 |
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| Allmity | kosh: i don't know much about python. | 16:45 |
| kosh | python is mostly designed to be easy to write and easy to maintain | 16:46 |
| kosh | so instead of using a lot of strange symbols it uses words and whitespace | 16:46 |
| kosh | but I would not classify it as a scripting language | 16:47 |
| kosh | it is used for engineering work, supercomputers, satellites, biology etc | 16:47 |
| Allmity | let me know about python? how it works? | 16:47 |
| kosh | not sure what you mean by how it works | 16:47 |
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| Allmity | python is new to me, even i don't know about python? | 16:50 |
| Allmity | so let me know more about on it | 16:51 |
| kosh | I don't understand how to answer your question for any language | 16:51 |
| kosh | how would you tell someone how java works, or c, c++, c# etc | 16:51 |
| Allmity | as of my knowledge java is programming language , used to build application | 16:52 |
| chaoflow | Allmity: http://docs.python.org/tutorial/index.html | 16:52 |
| kosh | you do that with all programming languages | 16:52 |
| Allmity | yes ofcourse | 16:53 |
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| Allmity | but i'm bit confuse | 16:54 |
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| kosh | right now though I don't think anyone understands what you are asking | 16:59 |
| Allmity | Thank you | 16:59 |
| Allmity | thank you for those info regarding python | 17:00 |
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| MacMagnus | can i install Zope 2.8.3-final in python 2.7.1? | 19:42 |
| kosh | no | 19:43 |
| kosh | you need zope 2.13 for python 2.7 | 19:44 |
| MacMagnus | shoot | 19:45 |
| MacMagnus | are there very large differences between zope 2.13 and 2.8? | 19:46 |
| kosh | I would expect that a lot of stuff designed for 2.8 would not just automatically work in 2.13 without a few hours of porting things depending on how well you know zope | 19:46 |
| MacMagnus | but the case is, i dont know anything about zope... i am just to learn the basic | 19:47 |
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| kosh | so it would take a lot longer then a few hours then | 19:48 |
| kosh | why would you want to use 2.8 in the first place? do you have an existing app you are using? | 19:49 |
| MacMagnus | hehe. | 19:49 |
| MacMagnus | they use 2.8 on the place where i might get a job | 19:49 |
| kosh | ouch | 19:49 |
| kosh | that is ancient | 19:49 |
| MacMagnus | they asked me to look into it | 19:49 |
| MacMagnus | are there fundamental differences? | 19:51 |
| MacMagnus | i use mac os x, so python 2.7 are build in | 19:51 |
| kosh | the differences are not fundamental | 19:52 |
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| kosh | stuff from 10 years ago in zope 2.0 still mostly works in zope 2.13 | 19:52 |
| kosh | it is just little details of things that are ported | 19:52 |
| kosh | like some function names have changed, some functions take different args, you use a different version of python etc | 19:53 |
| kosh | pretty much like any other software project | 19:53 |
| MacMagnus | i guess i could install the newest then :) | 19:53 |
| kosh | if you take a piece of software designed 5 years ago for java, ruby, perl etc and try to run it on the latest version that is extremely unlikely to work either | 19:53 |
| kosh | zope 2.13 though is much faster then previous versions | 19:53 |
| MacMagnus | :) | 19:55 |
| MacMagnus | they said it would require a lot of work to update | 19:55 |
| MacMagnus | their software, that is | 19:55 |
| kosh | if that is true their software is pretty bad | 19:57 |
| kosh | I have been writing zope apps for about 10 years and each version has only required a few hours to update except 2.9 or so because of some catalog security changes, that took a week or so | 19:57 |
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| MacMagnus | ok :) it might depends on how they have written things | 19:58 |
| MacMagnus | but thanks, ill try the newest | 19:59 |
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| kosh | anybody can write software that is hard to fix later | 20:00 |
| kosh | I have seen nasty stuff in lots of languages | 20:00 |
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| MacMagnus | yeah, that is true | 20:02 |
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| stephane____ | hello | 21:10 |
| stephane____ | I sent a e-mail on the ZODB-dev mailing list and it does'nt appear in the archive | 21:10 |
| kosh | maybe it takes a wihle to get into the archive | 21:10 |
| kosh | I don't know | 21:10 |
| stephane____ | I didn't receive an error message | 21:11 |
| stephane____ | does it silently ignored because I didn't subscribe to the mailing list before? | 21:11 |
| stephane____ | i sent it the 16th august | 21:12 |
| kosh | I doubt the message was recieved at all if you are not subscribed | 21:15 |
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| stephane____ | kosh: thanks. I will subscribe and resend it. | 21:54 |
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