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| elneto | hi | 20:33 |
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| elneto | I need help installing zope on debian | 20:33 |
| elneto | anyone can help me please | 20:34 |
| RichardBarrell | elneto: what version of Zope are you after? | 20:40 |
| RichardBarrell | Annnnd what version of Debian are you on? | 20:41 |
| RichardBarrell | elneto: if you want modern Zope2 (2.12.x and 2.13.x) and your distro packages Python2.6 or Python2.7 then you can probably install python>=2.6 and zc.buildout>=1.5 from your distribution's repositories. | 20:42 |
| RichardBarrell | and then install Plone from buildout. | 20:42 |
| elneto | thanks for answer | 20:43 |
| elneto | I want to install zope3 on debian | 20:43 |
| elneto | the problem is that I have python2.6 | 20:43 |
| RichardBarrell | Zope3 kind of doesn't exist. What used to be Zope3 is now called Bluebream. | 20:44 |
| elneto | I did the folow | 20:44 |
| elneto | ./configure --with-python /usr/bin/python2.6 | 20:44 |
| elneto | then, $ make | 20:44 |
| RichardBarrell | elneto: what tarball did you build...? | 20:44 |
| elneto | and I get many error like this | 20:45 |
| elneto | Dependencies/zope.i18nmessageid-Zope-3.4.0c1/zope.i18nmessageid/_zope_i18nmessageid_message.c:235: error: ‘NULL’ undeclared here (not in a function) | 20:45 |
| elneto | the zope version? | 20:45 |
| RichardBarrell | Yes. | 20:45 |
| elneto | zope-3.4.0c1 | 20:45 |
| RichardBarrell | Uhohkay. Why are you installing 3.4.0? | 20:47 |
| elneto | well, I need some zope3 version | 20:48 |
| elneto | I have app on that | 20:48 |
| RichardBarrell | If you're developing any new software, you should try to work on Bluebream rather than Zope3. For starters, Bluebream 1.0 supports Python2.6 out of the box. | 20:48 |
| elneto | :( | 20:48 |
| elneto | but my old apps are already on zope3 | 20:49 |
| RichardBarrell | Well, if you want zope 3.4.0 you're probably going to want to compile your own copy of Python 2.5, or install one from your distro. | 20:49 |
| elneto | and is critical for me | 20:49 |
| elneto | python2.5 | 20:49 |
| elneto | but it recomends python2.4.3 | 20:49 |
| RichardBarrell | So compile and install Python 2.4.6 ;) | 20:50 |
| elneto | I try it | 20:50 |
| elneto | but i get the same error | 20:50 |
| RichardBarrell | Compile your own copy of Python 2.4. Use 2.4.6 rather than 2.4.3 because there were a few vulnerabilities fixed between 2.4.3 and 2.4.6. | 20:50 |
| elneto | :( | 20:50 |
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| elneto | I installed python2.4.6 from my repo | 20:51 |
| elneto | and try to install zope3 | 20:51 |
| elneto | but I get the same error | 20:51 |
| RichardBarrell | Sorry, can't help you. | 20:51 |
| elneto | thanks | 20:52 |
| elneto | :( | 20:52 |
| elneto | who can? | 20:52 |
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| elneto | help please | 20:55 |
| elneto | Ill lose my head if I dont find an answer | 20:55 |
| elneto | some one tell the way | 20:56 |
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| kosh | not a clue for zope 3, why do you have to install a new system to run an existing app though? | 21:34 |
| kosh | however you are probably going to have to ask on the zope list for help since I doubt anyone here knows enough about z3 | 21:35 |
| kosh | I only did zope 2.x | 21:36 |
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| sm | by now zope seems basically too big and scattered for free support to work | 22:03 |
| sm | back in the day, you'd likely know the answer.. or someone would | 22:04 |
| * sm hasn't read the log in detail, just blathering | 22:04 | |
| kosh | well if he was asking about zope2.x I could do that just fine | 22:11 |
| kosh | but zope 3 was its own dead world | 22:11 |
| kosh | bluebream went on after it but not completely compatible | 22:11 |
| kosh | plone is its own world | 22:11 |
| kosh | grok is its own world | 22:11 |
| kosh | and all this splitting up of stuff is not helping | 22:14 |
| kosh | at least I should be out of it in 3 years or so | 22:14 |
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| RichardBarrell | kosh: plone at least cohabits with zope2's world. ;) | 22:21 |
| kosh | for some definitions of cohabits | 22:24 |
| RichardBarrell | zope2 is a warm, cozy, pleasant-if-creaky cottage with the odd draughty corner here and there. | 22:25 |
| RichardBarrell | (and a basement full of skeletons but we try to overlook that, die ZClasses die!) | 22:25 |
| RichardBarrell | Plone is a metropolitan skyscraper built on zope2's chimney. | 22:26 |
| kosh | heh | 22:31 |
| * kosh has seen the foundations | 22:32 | |
| kosh | slow and a memory hog also | 22:32 |
| RichardBarrell | and yet no one else in the company seems to want to take up my suggestion that we all switch to writing our software in C directly against the nginx module API... ;) | 22:34 |
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| sm | you nut! :) | 22:51 |
| sm | I'd pitch yesod instead | 22:52 |
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| kosh | sm: huh? | 23:13 |
| RichardBarrell | sm: *blinkblink* | 23:17 |
| * kosh cuts out RichardBarrell's eyelids | 23:18 | |
| kosh | this is a no blinking zone! :) | 23:18 |
| RichardBarrell | sm: y'know, technically every last one of the developers in this company has been *taught* Haskell already at least once (we've all been through bris.ac.uk's meatgrinder) but I assume that I'd probably have even more trouble trying to convince everyone to pick up Yesod than C. | 23:19 |
| kosh | especially given how long it would take the police to find your corpse if you tried to force the issue | 23:20 |
| RichardBarrell | Like five minutes | 23:21 |
| RichardBarrell | they can just follow the trail of blood from your house. | 23:22 |
| lewellyn | nah. kosh would burninate. | 23:35 |
| RichardBarrell | It's more of a trail of blood between wherever kosh stashes my severed eyelids and wherever my colleagues stash the rest of my corpse. | 23:37 |
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| lewellyn | kosh: already got him, eh? | 23:50 |
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