IRC log of #zope for Friday, 2012-07-13

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ArfreverTresEquis: Are you working on porting ZODB (not just persistent) to Python 3?20:54
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TresEquisArfrever, not yet, but it is the next porting effort I plan to tackle21:17
TresEquisI'd like to split BTrees out, w/ a pure Python implementation21:18
TresEquisand then port the rest (no C extensions left)21:18
ArfreverTresEquis: Is Zope trunk tested with new versions (like 4.0.0) of ZTK packages?21:18
TresEquisArfrever, yes21:18
TresEquisor at least, I think so21:18
ArfreverTresEquis: Can Zope 2.13 be used with these new versions of ZTK packages?21:19
TresEquisnot officially21:20
ArfreverTresEquis: What will be new version of ZODB with these changes? 3.11 or 4.0?21:22
TresEquisZTK 1.0.7  is the supported version for Zope 2.13:  see http://svn.zope.org/Zope/branches/2.13/versions.cfg?rev=127006&view=auto21:22
TresEquisArfrever, depends:  I would call it 4.0, but we may have to jump to 5.0 (ZODB 4 was a "new shiny thing" ten years back :)21:23
ArfreverTresEquis: ZODB on PyPI is called "ZODB3". Was renaming of it to "ZODB" considered?21:23
TresEquisno21:24
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ArfreverTresEquis: Anyway if version was 5.0, then would full name-version be ZODB3-5.0 or ZODB5-5.0 or something else?21:27
TresEquisZODB3-5.021:27
TresEquisthe 3 is like an "ABI version", not a release number21:27
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ArfreverTresEquis: Do you plan to split ZEO?21:49
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benbangertJ1m: gonna add the @children and @data watching recipes today22:05
TresEquisArfrever, I don't think so -- it isn't even conceptually useful without the rest of ZODB22:06
ArfreverTresEquis: On porting of which ZTK package to Python 3 are you currently working?22:07
TresEquiswhereas persistent and BTrees are (in particular, I'd like to have zope.component's persistent registry support depend only on persistent, and zope.index depend only on BTrees)22:07
TresEquisArfrever, I'm not working on any more of them for now22:08
TresEquiszope.component is the last one I use day-to-day for new development22:08
TresEquisso I probably need to help port ZODB before anything else22:09
TresEquisit is the last remaining Python2-only dependency for my preferred style of development (pyramid w/ traversal, ZPT via chamelon, object database)22:09
TresEquiszope.component, zope.interface, and dependencies are the "bicycle seat" version of the Zope toolkit :)22:10
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kevinkalis there anything "special" that happens when a zope instance is created, regarding ZODB?  I'm trying to implement a configuration directive for ZEO clients and it's not getting picked up on startup and I can't figure out why.22:16
kevinkalsome background.  When you just add a directive to zope.conf startup fails because of 'Unrecognized key'22:17
koshI can't think of anything special when it gets created22:19
kevinkalso adding the a key to component.xml in both zodb3.xxxx.ZEO and zodb3.xxxx.ZODB fixes that (zope server stops complaining)22:19
TresEquisyou need to get the "meta" included for  your new directive22:19
TresEquis%import path.to.module.handler22:20
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kevinkalhmmm.22:20
kevinkalTresEquis:  where does that happen?22:20
TresEquiskevinkal, http://svn.zope.org/ZConfig/trunk/doc/zconfig.pdf?rev=110791&view=auto22:21
kevinkalTresEquis:  thanks!  I'll read that.22:21
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kevinkalok.  I missed setting the directive in zodb/config.py22:48
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