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| andreas__ | hi all | 13:21 |
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| _mup_ | Bug #1026576 was filed: Count test import errors as errors <zope.testrunner:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/1026576 > | 15:03 |
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| seppo14 | hi guys... any help how to debug a not-responding zope2 instance? absolutely NO traces in event.log & syslog - suddenly stops responding. restart and it's fine again... memory and disk usage are fine too... | 17:20 |
| seppo14 | are there any trace tools out there? | 17:20 |
| sm | seppo14: there was/is some product for it | 17:21 |
| sm | IIRC another way is to enable trace.log and look for the incomplete request there | 17:22 |
| seppo14 | actually we did that | 17:23 |
| seppo14 | and there's nothing in there pointing to an error... really strange | 17:23 |
| sm | you see all four log entries for every request ? | 17:23 |
| seppo14 | yes | 17:23 |
| seppo14 | including the last one before the "crash" | 17:23 |
| sm | huh | 17:23 |
| seppo14 | no request with a problem | 17:24 |
| seppo14 | otherwise i wouldnt be here asking ;) | 17:24 |
| seppo14 | i haven't sorted out hardware defects yet... | 17:24 |
| seppo14 | anything so strange could be at least a faulty ram stick.... | 17:25 |
| seppo14 | but then again shouldn't there be at least some problems with requests in trace.log | 17:25 |
| sm | you would think so, on average.. how many hangs have you log-analyzed ? Maybe you got unlucky ? | 17:26 |
| seppo14 | 4 yet... | 17:27 |
| seppo14 | I'll give it another 2 days | 17:27 |
| sm | though as you say, even one hang with a problem free trace log seems to say it's not request-specific | 17:27 |
| sm | maybe you can point the hang time and study the activity before that | 17:28 |
| sm | pinpoint | 17:28 |
| seppo14 | we couldn't reproduce it yet... | 17:28 |
| seppo14 | we tried by request the last actions and pages via apache benchmark | 17:28 |
| seppo14 | no hangs, even when doing a lot of request for those | 17:28 |
| seppo14 | next thing is moving it to another server | 17:29 |
| sm | it's not the cleaners borrowing your power socket for a minute is it | 17:29 |
| seppo14 | been there :D | 17:29 |
| Pumukel | hello, I have a question on zope.schema, is there some way or support for a computedField and when where is a documentation? | 17:32 |
| agroszer | Pumukel, you declare the field as the return value (readonly=True) and do a @property in your class | 17:34 |
| Pumukel | thanks, that is exactly what I haved serached | 17:39 |
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| kosh | are you using external resources? | 17:44 |
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| kosh | like connecting to an sql server, using python to read data from a remote server etc? running a command on the local os and waiting for the result? | 17:44 |
| betabug | seppo14: DeadLockDebugger | 17:46 |
| Pumukel | well yes I use external resources and want to display them as computed fields in forms | 17:52 |
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| kosh | if your external resource ever takes too long you can build up connections until you can't make any more | 18:03 |
| Pumukel | well my external resources are other Zope Objects, so that isn't the problem | 18:06 |
| kosh | external resources means stuff outside of zope so filesystem, other dbs, anything that requires a network connection | 18:06 |
| Pumukel | but as it seems it dosen't work, as I could not travers in the @property method to the object | 18:06 |
| Pumukel | Ok, my problem is that I have a foldish object that has some child objects, and I need to calculate some of the child.fields values and display them in an edit view of the foldish object | 18:08 |
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| kosh | why not store those calculated values in the parent if they are small values and then have the children update it when they change or directly ask the children for the values when you draw instead of dealing with @property and stuff like that? | 18:10 |
| Pumukel | well displaying them is no problem at all, the problem is that I work with dexterity and they should be displayed in an edit form | 18:12 |
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| humanfromearth | hello, I'm using zc.recipe.testrunner and I'm testing something which needs external methods, unfortunately I'm not sure how I can put my extensions in the Extensions dir (where is the part for zope test)? | 18:21 |
| kosh | it is a human! quick kill him! :) | 18:22 |
| kosh | sorry no idea about testrunner | 18:22 |
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| sm | betabug: yes, nice | 19:48 |
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