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| joules | is there a way around massive blocks of white space the chameleon templates output? particulary with tal:conditions? | 15:11 |
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| joules | its not a big deal i suppose. | 15:12 |
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| mitchell` | I don't think so | 17:49 |
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| agroszer | why oh why does zope.i18n not support de-ch -> de -> en fallback? | 18:10 |
| agroszer | or rather an override by msgid in the opposite direction | 18:10 |
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| travisgriggs | my understanding is that zope and zodb are nominally related, is that correct? | 23:21 |
| RichyB | If you mean that they've got similar names, sure. | 23:22 |
| RichyB | The actual relationship is that Zope is a framework, one component of which is ZODB. | 23:23 |
| RichyB | ZODB is cheerfully usable entire in the absence of Zope. | 23:23 |
| travisgriggs | is zodb available under py3 then? | 23:24 |
| RichyB | Probably not. | 23:24 |
| travisgriggs | darn | 23:24 |
| RichyB | You'd have to check, but to the best of my knowledge, ZODB is currently only usable with the 2.x line of the CPython interpreter. | 23:24 |
| RichyB | No Python 3 and no PyPy yet. | 23:25 |
| travisgriggs | i thot zope ran under python3 now. i've been learning/using python for a couple of months now, using it in some different in house apps. i have one that i would like to have persistant storage for, but don't need zope. but zodb looked really nice | 23:25 |
| travisgriggs | thx for the info RichyB. guess i can decide to use py2 for this app, or look for something else | 23:26 |
| RichyB | travisgriggs: lots of individual packages that used to be part of Zope do have py3 support. | 23:28 |
| RichyB | But the whole framework does not. | 23:29 |
| RichyB | e.g. zope.interface can be used in py3. | 23:29 |
| RichyB | er | 23:29 |
| travisgriggs | is there any roadmap for when zodb might be included? i'd attempt a port myself, but i think my skills are still junior enough, i'd crash-n-burn fast | 23:30 |
| RichyB | By "used to be part of Zope" I mean "you used to only be able to get them by installing Zope, but now they're separate libraries which Zope has dependencies on instead, which is a much nicer situation for everyone involved. Have a cookie." | 23:30 |
| RichyB | Pass. I don't know of anyone who's working on a python3 port of ZODB. | 23:30 |
| RichyB | That doesn't mean that it's impossible that there might be. | 23:31 |
| RichyB | Your best bet would be to search the archives of the zope development mailing lists (they're on gmane) to see what other people have been trying. | 23:31 |
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| RichyB | A python3 port of Zope is probably not something that you can expect to come about soon, though. | 23:31 |
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