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| supton | zope.index (well, OOBTree) does not like having a None key mixed with datetime.date or datetime.datetime… so you cannot index objects with NoneType values in zope.index, repoze.catalog… thoughts on workaround> | 00:21 |
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| supton | ? | 00:21 |
| mcdonc | this is a feature of datetime, not of the index i think | 00:22 |
| mcdonc | (although the feature is omnipresent in py3) | 00:22 |
| supton | >>> t = OOBTree(); t[datetime.date.today()] = 1; t[None] = 1 # raises TypeError | 00:22 |
| mcdonc | yes, datetime cant be compared against other things | 00:22 |
| supton | mcdonc: I'd like to workaround in repoze.catalog? Use dummy date/datetime value always? | 00:23 |
| mcdonc | but its about the only thing in the stdlib that behaves this way | 00:23 |
| mcdonc | well it's pretty nutty to index bare dateime values anyway | 00:23 |
| mcdonc | they're way too precise | 00:23 |
| mcdonc | i'd cast them to integers | 00:23 |
| supton | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3170640/comparing-if-datetime-datetime-exists-or-none and http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2178931/in-python-sorting-on-date-field-field-may-sometimes-be-null | 00:24 |
| mcdonc | https://github.com/Pylons/substanced/blob/master/substanced/util/__init__.py#L12 | 00:24 |
| supton | mcdonc: not a bad idea, supposes that I normalize values on query, too though | 00:24 |
| mcdonc | yup | 00:24 |
| mcdonc | in reality there should probably be a date index | 00:24 |
| mcdonc | i'm personally way too lazy for that | 00:25 |
| supton | just have to figure out granularity for datetime.date, I guess | 00:25 |
| supton | mcdonc: seems extraneous | 00:25 |
| mcdonc | well our conversation might have been shorter then ;-) | 00:25 |
| supton | mcdonc: I think people will build higher-level interfaces on top of repoze.catalog, that's what I am doing | 00:25 |
| mcdonc | bleh, i hope not too many, i've already forked it | 00:26 |
| supton | hah | 00:26 |
| supton | mcdonc: where's the fork living? | 00:26 |
| mcdonc | https://github.com/Pylons/hypatia | 00:26 |
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| supton | mcdonc: thanks | 00:26 |
| mcdonc | rationale: default 64-bit datastructures, difference in query language | 00:27 |
| mcdonc | (e.g. catalog['title'].eq('Hello') & catalog['interfaces'].eq(SomeInterface) ) | 00:27 |
| supton | mcdonc: ok, former saves me effort, simplifies something I am already doing | 00:27 |
| mcdonc | i also killed the pathindex | 00:28 |
| supton | including an evil monkey patch of repoze.catalog.query.BoolOp I did to force family=BTrees.family64 :-/ | 00:28 |
| mcdonc | yeah i wont be maintaining r.catalog anymore for better or worse | 00:29 |
| supton | (I subclassed index types and catalog to change the family, but ended up needing to monkey patch the query for expediency because I did not want to subclass it) | 00:29 |
| supton | mcdonc: I'll just move to using hypatia before I do a production release of what I'm doing | 00:29 |
| mcdonc | that's likely wise | 00:29 |
| mcdonc | that said, there's no release and no promise of bw compat yet | 00:30 |
| mcdonc | sorry | 00:30 |
| mcdonc | for example | 00:31 |
| mcdonc | as i mentioned, lots more py3 types are incomparable | 00:31 |
| mcdonc | and to get around that, in places that we currently use like OOBTree and OOSet | 00:31 |
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| mcdonc | we're going to need to use something else | 00:31 |
| mcdonc | because some structures (like e.g. _rev_index on kwindex) dont actually need total ordering | 00:32 |
| mcdonc | we just use OOBTree for it because it's convenient | 00:32 |
| mcdonc | but it's untenable if we ever get a py3 zodb | 00:33 |
| mcdonc | for exactly the reason we began talking here | 00:33 |
| supton | mcdonc: why not (substanced) use datetime.date.toordinal() vs using calendar? Is the intent of this to have something that could handle both date and datetime? | 01:06 |
| supton | (for normalizing int repr) | 01:06 |
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| mcdonc | not sure i cargo culted that code from karl and i was not its original author | 01:08 |
| supton | mcdonc: ah, ok. so I suppose I should not ask why 100seconds either... | 01:09 |
| supton | :) | 01:09 |
| mcdonc | dont know the original reason for that either.. good a choice as any i guess | 01:10 |
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