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| itamar | hello | 16:09 |
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| itamar | any zope.interface packagers around? | 16:09 |
| agroszer | plenty I guess | 16:10 |
| agroszer | itamar, shoot | 16:10 |
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| itamar | so we have this issue with beginning twisted users on Windows, where they need to install zope.interface | 16:11 |
| itamar | but it's only packaged as an egg | 16:11 |
| itamar | so they have to figure out how to get easy install or pip or some such installed too | 16:11 |
| itamar | it would be nice if zope.interface also had .exe or .msi packages uploaded to pypi | 16:11 |
| agroszer | ohh I love windowze | 16:12 |
| * fdrake wonders how people typically handle binary libraries on Windows, if not eggs/wheels/ZIPs. | 16:13 | |
| * fdrake had to battle a software installer on Windows yesterday, only to find his VM was still running the thing this morning. | 16:14 | |
| agroszer | yah well windowze workflow is like, download the installer, install ;-) | 16:14 |
| fdrake | agroszer: It's even better if it blocks for the uncaring user to click on a checkbox. | 16:15 |
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| fdrake | Silly Oracle. Java is for kids. | 16:15 |
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| agroszer | srichter, where do we want to track issues? github or launchpad? | 16:16 |
| srichter | that's a good question | 16:17 |
| agroszer | itamar, the best would be to add a ticket, but figuring now where... | 16:17 |
| srichter | we have really not thought about that yet | 16:17 |
| srichter | I think L=Launchpad is still the official story | 16:18 |
| srichter | but I think most of us would see the bug report in either place | 16:18 |
| mgedmin | it would be a matter of winbot doing the right python setup.py bdist_wininst, thing, right? | 16:19 |
| agroszer | yah I guess | 16:19 |
| fdrake | Having two places would be really bad for people that want to report an issue; there has to be only one. | 16:20 |
| mgedmin | zope.wineggbuilder is still in svn, so no github issue tracker for you | 16:20 |
| agroszer | and prolly an .exe would work for easy_install too | 16:20 |
| mgedmin | but https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope.wineggbuilder doesn't exist either | 16:20 |
| itamar | no reason not to package .egg as well | 16:20 |
| itamar | but .exe or .msi is much easier for new developers | 16:20 |
| fdrake | Ah, if there's nothing on LP, then github is likely much better. | 16:23 |
| fdrake | And the software will probably move there anyway. | 16:23 |
| itamar | URL? | 16:23 |
| agroszer | as mgedmin said wineggbuilder isn't yet on github | 16:24 |
| mgedmin | and since it doesn't have its own bug tracker... | 16:25 |
| agroszer | errr let's bite that bullet first | 16:25 |
| agroszer | srichter, would you? | 16:25 |
| mgedmin | and since zope.interface is probably THE most popular zope.* package used by outsiders | 16:25 |
| mgedmin | it's probably best to file the request *.exe/*.msi builds in zope.interface's bug tracker (either github or launchpad) | 16:26 |
| agroszer | I don't mind | 16:26 |
| mgedmin | or you could wait 5 minutes for srichter to run his magic 'let's migrate to github!' script and file a zope.wineggbuilder bug there :) | 16:26 |
| srichter | mgedmin: I can move zope.wineggbuilder | 16:27 |
| agroszer | srichter, please | 16:28 |
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| srichter | it is running | 16:29 |
| srichter | the repos is already created and should accept bugs | 16:29 |
| agroszer | itamar, https://github.com/zopefoundation/zope.wineggbuilder | 16:29 |
| agroszer | I'll stop winbot | 16:29 |
| itamar | thanks! | 16:30 |
| agroszer | np | 16:30 |
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| itamar | ok, ticket filed | 16:33 |
| agroszer | yup, I'll try to get to it | 16:34 |
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| itamar | even uploading manual packages for latest release before pycon would make my life easier | 16:35 |
| itamar | in so far as probably 1 or 2 people will have not gotten twisted correctly installed for my tutorial | 16:36 |
| agroszer | no worries, I'll try to fix the bot so it does all | 16:37 |
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| itamar | thank you! it's mostly a nice-to-have though, it's not like it's impossible to get setuptools going | 16:37 |
| agroszer | 'welcome | 16:38 |
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| itamar | srichter: I see you're still in Boston :) | 16:39 |
| srichter | itamar: yes :-) | 16:43 |
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| srichter | conversion complete. btw | 16:50 |
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| agroszer | yup, working on the switch | 16:50 |
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| mgedmin | so, anybody ever tried to build lxml on windows? | 16:58 |
| agroszer | prolly yes, just gotta kick em | 16:58 |
| agroszer | I rather wait a bit for instructions than figuring myself | 16:58 |
| agroszer | who can switch off travis for zope.wineggbuilder | 16:59 |
| agroszer | ? | 16:59 |
| agroszer | re lxml, 32 bit might be easy | 17:00 |
| agroszer | 64bit + py 3.3 will be hard | 17:00 |
| mgedmin | travis disabled | 17:01 |
| agroszer | thx | 17:01 |
| mgedmin | okay, zodb's tests once again run on python 3.3, and this time zodb is using zodbpickle's noload() | 17:16 |
| mgedmin | and pickling bytestrings (such as oids) using SHORT_BINSTRING instead of that codecs.encode() monstrosity | 17:16 |
| mgedmin | (this was supposed to go to #zodb but whatever) | 17:17 |
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| pingveno | I'm Aaron DeVore. Andrey Lebedev contacted me about some work that I'm doing on porting Mechanize to Python 3. | 22:11 |
| pingveno | I won't be able to work on it until the 19th (final exams done), but I'll start lurking in here. | 22:13 |
| iElectric | for gsoc? | 22:19 |
| iElectric | pingveno: | 22:23 |
| pingveno | nope | 22:23 |
| pingveno | I had started porting it last summer for a course at my university. | 22:23 |
| pingveno | I didn't get the port done within the time frame of the class. :( | 22:24 |
| iElectric | nice, I also had plans to do that | 22:24 |
| iElectric | pingveno: what's the status of that? | 22:24 |
| iElectric | do you have an estimate on work to be done? | 22:24 |
| pingveno | hmmm | 22:24 |
| pingveno | I've been trying to figure that one out. | 22:24 |
| iElectric | :D | 22:24 |
| iElectric | it has tests, right? | 22:24 |
| iElectric | quite a bunch of them | 22:24 |
| pingveno | Mostly | 22:24 |
| pingveno | Very little of the interface needed changing. I had to switch a couple of things, though. | 22:25 |
| iElectric | how much tests pass under py 2 and 3? | 22:25 |
| pingveno | Alas, it's not even to the point of importing. | 22:26 |
| iElectric | ok | 22:26 |
| pingveno | Because of how it's set up, it's sort of an "almost all or nothing". | 22:26 |
| pingveno | https://github.com/adevore/mechanize/tree/python3 | 22:27 |
| pingveno | I'm in the middle of rewriting the form parsing code. Because sgmllib isn't available in Python 3, the only code no longer works. | 22:27 |
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| pingveno | Fortunately, Beautiful Soup trees are much easier to deal with than sgmllib :) | 22:29 |
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