IRC log of #zope for Wednesday, 2013-03-06

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sp0cksbeardsrichter: can you enable the travis-ci hook for zc.zodbwsgi?01:22
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J1msrichter, I just noticed mongofake22:12
srichterJ1m: yeah? :-)22:13
srichterJ1m: it is not perfect, but works for most of our stuff22:13
J1mI did something like this for zookeeper.22:13
J1mOne thing I didn that I'm rather proud of was to make it easy to run a set of tests written against the mock to be run against a real ZooKeeper server.22:14
srichterJ1m: how far did you take it to simulate queries correclty?22:14
J1mso I I didn't have to maintain separate integration tests.22:14
srichterJ1m: yep, fakemongo does that too22:14
J1mAny app that uses zc.zk gets this.22:14
J1mcool22:15
J1mI went as far as I needed to, which was pretty far.22:15
srichteryou can run the tests against the fake or a stub mongo DB22:15
srichterJ1m: yeah, same here22:15
J1mI suspect that this is a new testing pattern.22:15
J1mSomething like "removable mock".22:15
J1mA challenge with mocks is that they're often wrong, so people don't use them or have to have integration tests.22:16
srichtermmh, interesting, I have not thought about it like that22:16
J1mA "removable mock" mitigates that problem.22:16
srichteryep, that's exactely why we run the tests against the real DB too :-)22:16
J1mI'd like to do this for mobile apps, so we can test them without a server most of the time.22:17
srichterI should note though, that Roger wrote all of that and we just fixed his code ;-)22:17
J1mhave a removable mock on the device that avoids any network calls or server setup.22:18
srichterwe only wrote a mobile app that was using a WebView inside, so we really did not have to solve that problem yet22:19
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