| Ilja | the problem is actually related more generally to zodb - any event based processing framework should be hitting similar problems | 00:40 |
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| Ilja | thing is that zodb is a monster and we need somebody with deep understanding of how it works to show where we screwed up | 00:40 |
| Ilja | (the code is open, actually, if somebody's wiling to take a look - https://github.com/opennode/opennode-management/blob/master/opennode/oms/zodb/db.py) | 00:41 |
| kosh | you are probably going to be better off asking tomorrow since today is Sunday and most people are doing other things here | 00:44 |
| Ilja | true :) | 00:44 |
| Ilja | thanks | 00:44 |
| kosh | I just don't want to get involved in something like that anymore | 00:44 |
| kosh | one year left before I am out of any web stuff :) | 00:45 |
| Ilja | actually, the reason for using zodb was to provide a verifying ORM for Twisted (which is not really web) . It was a nice idea, but we've run into sooo many problems along the way that frankly I would suggest to think twice before using ZODB. | 00:48 |
| Ilja | kosh, where are you going that doesn't require "web stuff"? music? :) | 00:49 |
| kosh | DNA stuff | 00:50 |
| kosh | went back to school and graduating with a degree in chemical and biological engineering | 00:50 |
| kosh | going to do nanotech and biotech work | 00:50 |
| kosh | recently I have been doing DNA optimization for ecoli for a summer project | 00:50 |
| Ilja | what does 'dna stuff' mean? (I have bioinf background) | 00:53 |
| Ilja | I mean, do you have a concrete plan, e.g. EBI job or smth? | 00:54 |
| Ilja | out of curiosity | 00:54 |
| Ilja | (sorry for offtopic) | 00:54 |
| kosh | actually I plan to work on the engineering side to turn lab science stuff into actual shipping products | 00:54 |
| kosh | I don't want to work on the actual science side of figuring out how to do stuff intially but on the industrial side of turning the science into a real product | 00:55 |
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| kosh | doing a genetic engineering competition over the summer | 01:14 |
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| do3cc | Hi, what is up with mail.zope.org? | 12:14 |
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| do3cc | I wanted to ask on the ML, but i realized an error in my thinking | 12:15 |
| gauthierbastien | hi everybody | 12:15 |
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| gauthierbastien | I would like to know where is the current CMF repository, is it still http://svn.zope.org/CMF/trunk? | 12:15 |
| do3cc | I think so | 12:17 |
| do3cc | repos that are being moved are emptied and the readme contains a link to the new canonical source | 12:17 |
| do3cc | that is not the case for CMF, also I am not sure if the CMF Community wanted to move to github or stay | 12:18 |
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| gauthierbastien | do3cc: ok, thank you | 12:24 |
| gauthierbastien | do3cc: are zope SVN access relevant while wishing to contribute to CMF? Where are plips and so on discussed? | 12:25 |
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| do3cc | I am not aware of any special commitor agreements for CMF. I just committed stuff there with my zope user | 12:32 |
| do3cc | New stuff is probably discussed on the CMF List. Unfortunately mail.zope.org is down for some days already | 12:33 |
| gauthierbastien | do3cc: thank you :-) | 12:41 |
| gauthierbastien | do3cc: I will try to spam them when the lists will be available... | 12:42 |
| do3cc | what do you want to do? | 12:43 |
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| gauthierbastien | do3cc: in fact in CMFCore/exportimport/content.py, while using the generic setup "import content" step, it only take care of title and description... | 12:51 |
| gauthierbastien | in _makeInstance | 12:52 |
| gauthierbastien | do3cc: it explicitly only take care of title/description | 12:52 |
| gauthierbastien | do3cc: we use a monkeypatch for some time now, that finally take care of every attributes, and it works (in Plone with both AT and dexterity), we would like to see this going back to the core... | 12:53 |
| gauthierbastien | I suppose there is a good reason for only keeping title and description but I do not see why... | 12:53 |
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| do3cc | I guess that CMF wants this method to stay generic and wants Dexterity and AT to implement more specific importers | 12:56 |
| gauthierbastien | do3cc: I suppose, but why not using every attributes used in the .properties import file... I mean, if someone, wanting to import any kind of object he wants, add to this .properties file something like "myattribute= My value", why not taking this into account? | 12:58 |
| gauthierbastien | to me it is way to restrictive, I do not see why, and I understand why this is never used ;-) | 12:59 |
| do3cc | I cant tell you, I don't know either | 12:59 |
| gauthierbastien | do3cc: yes, that is why I would like to discuss this... I think I will try the mailing list first, thank you for the tip ;-) | 13:01 |
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| ralx | Hi everybody! Anybody here can tell why *.zope.org/* is down? | 18:58 |
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| supton | nobodydotpy: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/download.zope.org | 19:03 |
| supton | seems to work just fine for me, now | 19:03 |
| betabug | I've seen some mention that a server from the zope foundation has died | 19:03 |
| supton | well, plone patch tuesday is tomorrow… and I know it was delayed from last week for worries about download.zope.org breaking folks' buildouts | 19:04 |
| nobodydotpy | supton, how about "old.zope.org", "bluebream.zope.org"? | 19:04 |
| supton | nobodydotpy: hetzner03-1.zopefoundation.org maybe stalling, dunno | 19:05 |
| nobodydotpy | lokks like It's been this way, since before the weekend... | 19:07 |
| nobodydotpy | *looks | 19:07 |
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| betabug | it was off for a week, then came back for a day or so, then it broke again | 19:13 |
| betabug | a couple of subdomains of zpoe.org are on that machine | 19:14 |
| nobodydotpy | Humm... I'd seen a blog post (http://devblog.4teamwork.ch/blog/2013/06/06/download-dot-zope-dot-org-is-down-how-to-fix-buildout/) about the download sectio, but actually, my intention was to access the "Products" section to check some products and other docs for learning purposes... | 19:18 |
| nobodydotpy | *section | 19:18 |
| nobodydotpy | Hope they can get it fixed soon. I'll keep googling about it next coming days. | 19:21 |
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| nobodydotpy | Is there any place where I could download Zope 2.5.*? In download.zope.org there's only 2.12.* and 2.13.* releases | 21:11 |
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| MatthewWilkes | nobodydotpy: Think they're on old.zope.org which is currently down | 21:22 |
| nobodydotpy | MatthewWilkes: I appreciate your response. I actually have been waiting for the server to be up again so I could download that version. So I asked here just in case someone knew somewhere else I could find it. | 21:24 |
| MatthewWilkes | nobodydotpy: The oldest one I have lying around is 2.8.6, sorry | 21:27 |
| nobodydotpy | MatthewWilkes, do you have the source of this 2.8.6? I could try to make use of it. | 21:28 |
| MatthewWilkes | nobodydotpy: Yeah, dunno the best way to get it to you. Could try magnet:?xt=urn:btih:564ac8a9f604e11c7e6ab59e4bfe9be1fdde9fd9&dn=Zope-2.8.6-final.tgz if you have a bittorent client around? | 21:32 |
| nobodydotpy | MatthewWilkes: Yes, I do have on right on! Thank you again! | 21:34 |
| nobodydotpy | If the files are zipped or in a tar file and they're smaller than 10mb, theres the e-mail option: empadv@gmail.com | 21:35 |
| MatthewWilkes | that's a point | 21:40 |
| MatthewWilkes | I always forget about email | 21:40 |
| MatthewWilkes | nobodydotpy: sent | 21:40 |
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| nobodydotpy | MatthewWilkes: It'll certainly take some time to come. Thanks! | 21:44 |
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| MatthewWilkes | nobodydotpy: | 21:45 |
| MatthewWilkes | An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded: 5.7.0 Our system detected an illegal attachment on your message. Please | 21:45 |
| MatthewWilkes | 5.7.0 visit http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?answer=6590 to | 21:45 |
| MatthewWilkes | 5.7.0 review our attachment guidelines. fb9sm23944213wid.2 - gsmtp. Please check the message and try again | 21:45 |
| MatthewWilkes | sorry | 21:45 |
| nobodydotpy | That's ok. The torrent option is still on. Besides that, there might be google drive, if you have a gmail account | 21:47 |
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