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| MtEverest | hi, question regarding zeo.. | 13:47 |
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| MtEverest | Can I invoke zeopack on any server running zeo, as it requires only server name and port... | 13:47 |
| MtEverest | I mean it doesn't need any authentication..... | 13:48 |
| mgedmin | yes? | 13:49 |
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| MtEverest | What stops it from someone else running this command who is not authorized to do so.... | 13:53 |
| MtEverest | I mean issuing a pack command for any server from my system... | 13:53 |
| MtEverest | in case I don't have any authentication system in place for zeo client and server | 13:54 |
| mgedmin | why are you worried about packing, specifically? | 13:54 |
| mgedmin | if you don't have any auth, then anyone who can connect to zeo can read/write any data in it | 13:54 |
| MtEverest | question comes in general for authentication between zeo client and server | 13:54 |
| mgedmin | ah, ok, packing lets them destroy data | 13:54 |
| mgedmin | what I do is use unix sockets to talk to zeo -- this lets you protect them with unix filesystem permission so only the zope user account can talk to zeo | 13:55 |
| mgedmin | ofc this only works when everything's on the same server | 13:55 |
| MtEverest | So you mean to say that if we have zeo on separate server then authentication is a must | 13:56 |
| MtEverest | It is not highlighted in documentation anywhere | 13:56 |
| mgedmin | depends! maybe you have an isolated network | 13:56 |
| mgedmin | but yeah, exposing zeo on the internet is a Bad Idea Don't Do It | 13:57 |
| MtEverest | Thanks!!!! | 13:57 |
| mgedmin | it's perhaps worth mentioning that pickles are a remote code execution vector | 13:57 |
| MtEverest | So but the whole purpose of zeo is high availability and load balancing | 13:58 |
| MtEverest | and if that server is not callable from my clients on different servers or rather with some care then it should be mentioned in examples or documentation | 13:59 |
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| mgedmin | I mostly use zeo to make zope restarts less painful | 13:59 |
| mgedmin | but yeah | 13:59 |
| MtEverest | I am using zeo with pyramid and zodb | 13:59 |
| mgedmin | these days relstorage is popular | 13:59 |
| mgedmin | also gives you high availability/load balancing | 13:59 |
| mgedmin | plus postgres gives you auth options | 14:00 |
| mgedmin | wait a second | 14:00 |
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| mgedmin | HA/load balancing? zeo? no | 14:00 |
| mgedmin | ah, on the zope side | 14:00 |
| mgedmin | yes | 14:00 |
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| MtEverest | mgedmin: My connection got reset | 14:02 |
| MtEverest | If you have answered then please answer again.... | 14:03 |
| MtEverest | should I go for relstorage or zeo | 14:03 |
| mgedmin | I cannot make this decision for you | 14:03 |
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| MtEverest | thanks mgedmin | 14:22 |
| mgedmin | btw http://zope3.pov.lt/irclogs-zope/%23zope.2015-09-02.log.html#t2015-09-02T14:00:30 | 14:22 |
| mgedmin | since your connection dropped | 14:22 |
| mgedmin | you probably didn't miss anything important | 14:23 |
| MtEverest | I figured out.. thanks | 14:24 |
| MtEverest | wil evaluate both and then decide | 14:24 |
| MtEverest | actually the problem comes from the fact that being a startup these decisions sometimes consume a lot of time...so I thought experts here will bail me out somewhat | 14:25 |
| MtEverest | right now none of my traffic stats suggest me to load balance | 14:25 |
| MtEverest | but I thought if I can decide between zeo / relstorage from the beginning it would be great | 14:26 |
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