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| tvon | beagled --fg --debug should be producing a bunch of output, yes? | 04:02 |
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| tvon | It's been quiet since a cvs build today | 04:02 |
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| VladDrac | hey.. I didn't know srichters book was printed | 11:52 |
| VladDrac | (already, that is) | 11:52 |
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| apauley | hi all | 14:30 |
| apauley | does anyone know of zope-based software that uses zope as an appserver, but that's not using a web interface by default? | 14:33 |
| apauley | zope-based software that uses a QT or GTK interface, for example | 14:33 |
| srichter | there are some people playing with wxWidgets to write specific Zope clients | 14:36 |
| srichter | just send a message to zope3-dev/users | 14:36 |
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| regebro | Hi all, I'm gonna create "proxy-objects"... | 20:03 |
| regebro | but that means I would like to proxy the attributes that are a part of the schema. | 20:03 |
| regebro | Is there a way to do this without getters and setters? (Which I think I can't use, since it's Five...). | 20:03 |
| regebro | Evidently not. Hmm. I can hook the "Saving" in the view/update method, but the other way around? | 20:10 |
| regebro | Anone? No ideas? Maybe I can fudge them with a computed attribute thingy. Ugly, ugly, ugly. | 20:13 |
| Voblia | why can't i crate a enw issue in the Collector ? | 20:25 |
| Voblia | s/enw/new | 20:25 |
| mgedmin | Voblia wants to say that the Zope3-dev collector says "111 Connection Refused" when he tries to submit a new issue | 20:27 |
| jhauser_ | regebro, do you not like that the proxy has getters and setters? | 20:28 |
| Voblia | I tried again, and it worked now | 20:28 |
| jhauser_ | or one general __getattr__ __setattr__? | 20:29 |
| regebro | No, I'm using Five, and my objects are (at least for the moment) old-style, so I have no getters and setters. | 20:29 |
| jhauser_ | but __getattr__ in the proxy | 20:29 |
| regebro | I have gotten __gettattr__ to work befor. But it usually gievs me a headache. But maybe I'll try with it again... | 20:30 |
| regebro | Is there any methods to find out what the schema is on an object? | 20:30 |
| jhauser_ | the proxies are persistent right? | 20:30 |
| regebro | Yup, they are persistent. | 20:30 |
| * J1m hates proxies. | 20:31 | |
| jhauser_ | for iface in implementedBy(obj.__class__): | 20:32 |
| jhauser_ | for name, field in iface.namesAndDescriptions(): | 20:32 |
| jhauser_ | print name, type(field) | 20:32 |
| regebro | jhauser_, thanks. | 20:33 |
| jhauser_ | J1m but content reuse and also to some degree versions suggest proxies | 20:33 |
| regebro | J1m, proxies work fine for this situation in CPS3, so I'll go for it. | 20:33 |
| J1m | Sometimes proxies are necessary | 20:33 |
| jhauser_ | CPS has a central repository of objects and the versioning is done there | 20:33 |
| J1m | But they tend to cause much pain | 20:34 |
| jhauser_ | jepp :-) | 20:34 |
| J1m | They are seductive and invite use | 20:34 |
| jhauser_ | I opted to handle them explicit | 20:34 |
| jhauser_ | like reference objects | 20:34 |
| dreamcatcher | uhm, just like brazilian woman | 20:34 |
| jhauser_ | the app needs then to get the referenced object before doing something with it | 20:35 |
| jhauser_ | but that's also not ideal | 20:35 |
| jhauser_ | i do know nothing about brasilian women :-) | 20:36 |
| regebro | In this case I want the proxies to be the real object, except that it should get all information that are in the schemas from a central object. | 20:36 |
| regebro | I knew a brazilian girl when I lived in Sweden: Damn, I say, damn. Whooosh. | 20:36 |
| * regebro sweats | 20:37 | |
| regebro | So it's a mini-proxy, I guess. :-) | 20:38 |
| regebro | Maybe I can make a __getattr__ that only cares for the attributes in the schema. That would be nice, and work fine. I'll try that tomorrow. | 20:39 |
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| mgedmin | suppose I have a traverser (a view providing IBrowserPublisher) for IPerson objects | 21:19 |
| mgedmin | that returns me ICalendar objects when traversing to 'calendar' | 21:19 |
| mgedmin | so if I go to /persons/foo/calendar, I get the default view for a person's calendar | 21:19 |
| mgedmin | <menuItem for=".IPerson" title="Calendar" action="calendar" /> does not work | 21:20 |
| J1m | That's odd | 21:20 |
| J1m | How does it not work? | 21:21 |
| mgedmin | because BrowserMenuItem.available() traverses to 'calendar', gets back a Calendar object, assumes it is a view, and tries to access view.__call__ to see if it is allowed by the security checker | 21:21 |
| J1m | ah, provide a permission | 21:21 |
| mgedmin | thanks | 21:21 |
| J1m | It was a mistake to allow permissions to be ommitted in menitem directives | 21:21 |
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| projekt01 | Jim, stefan told me that you have ideas about sub menues. Do you? | 21:54 |
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| J1m | projekt01, Uh, I did | 22:28 |
| J1m | I don't remember what they were at the moment. | 22:28 |
| J1m | I'm sure I could remember if I thought about it a bit, but I'm in the middle of something else at the moment. | 22:29 |
| J1m | Can I send you something tomorrow? | 22:30 |
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| projekt01 | Jim, of corse, take time and let me know if you have any plan. | 23:19 |
| J1m | You are Roger? | 23:19 |
| projekt01 | Yes | 23:20 |
| J1m | k | 23:20 |
| projekt01 | Jim, perhaps, if you find time, it whould be nice to take a look at the IFile branch | 23:22 |
| projekt01 | and tell me what you think | 23:22 |
| J1m | yup, that's on my to-do list | 23:23 |
| projekt01 | Thanks | 23:26 |
| J1m | Thanks for your contributions | 23:26 |
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| projekt01 | That's ok, but I'm stocking right now, just let me know if you where looking on it and let me know what I can change. | 23:28 |
| J1m | stocking? | 23:28 |
| projekt01 | The widget don't work with session right now, that whould be the next step | 23:28 |
| projekt01 | Stocking, means I don't know if I'm doing it the right way | 23:29 |
| J1m | ah, ok | 23:29 |
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