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| fdrake | srichter: can I make a suggestion for z.a.apidoc? | 00:47 |
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| srichter | please, please, please | 00:47 |
| fdrake | there should be a meta.zcml and configure.zcml at the top (z.a.apidoc), and "interested" configurations should be able to include those | 00:47 |
| fdrake | but they should never need to reach down deeper (like into the old classmodule package) | 00:48 |
| srichter | ok | 00:48 |
| srichter | can do | 00:48 |
| fdrake | that way the package can continue to evolve but other prods are less sensitive to internal matters | 00:48 |
| fdrake | :-) | 00:48 |
| fdrake | (yes, I just got bit by an update) | 00:48 |
| fdrake | thanks! | 00:49 |
| srichter | no problem | 00:50 |
| fdrake | it looks like that would be a good place for the 'provides' as well | 01:03 |
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| srichter | fdrake: yeah, I have to do the entire feature thing stiil | 01:18 |
| srichter | I also have to move the book chapter registrations to the right packages | 01:18 |
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| srichter | mexiKON: still around? | 02:44 |
| mexiKON | srichter, little bit | 03:48 |
| mexiKON | 2 minutes | 03:48 |
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| srichter | actually I just went ahead | 03:48 |
| srichter | I thought of a very cool preferences system | 03:49 |
| srichter | user preferences that is | 03:49 |
| srichter | and I was wondering whether there would be enough interest to have it in zope.app | 03:49 |
| srichter | right now I am developing it for apidoc | 03:49 |
| philiKON | will there be a proposal? | 03:51 |
| srichter | nope :-) | 03:53 |
| srichter | no time for that | 03:53 |
| Damascene | nothing wrong with the "just do it" model. ;) | 03:53 |
| srichter | I agree | 03:54 |
| philiKON | :( | 03:54 |
| Damascene | philiKON: he can do the proposal afterwards! ;) | 03:54 |
| srichter | right now I strongly believe in "the first time you get it wrong anyways" | 03:54 |
| Damascene | "hey guys like this idea? yeah? okay it's done. here." | 03:54 |
| philiKON | just do it is great for smaller things. not sure how big this thing is supposed to be | 03:56 |
| philiKON | i guess for apidoc it's ok | 03:56 |
| philiKON | if this is supposed to become a standard for zope3, i'd like to see a proposal | 03:56 |
| srichter | especially since we have no experience with the subject | 03:56 |
| philiKON | plone poeple have lots | 03:56 |
| philiKON | that's even more of a reason to write proposals | 03:56 |
| Damascene | actually zope3's dev team has been workign with the plone group, havent' they? | 03:57 |
| srichter | nope | 03:57 |
| Damascene | philiKON: hmm true. they can spot out problems fromthe get-go if they already have such a system. | 03:57 |
| Damascene | so it's kind of ships inthe night, but you do a look-see and say good idea and incorporate it? | 03:57 |
| Damascene | kind of like ships in the night | 03:57 |
| philiKON | dunno what that is | 03:58 |
| srichter | philiKON: but I think Zope 3 offers some cool opportunities that were impossible before | 03:58 |
| philiKON | maybe so | 03:59 |
| philiKON | otoh, other people have lots of experience that we don't have | 03:59 |
| philiKON | plone, cps, silva people... there out there. they actually deal with "users"... and i'm talking about 60 year old secretaries for crying out loud | 03:59 |
| srichter | I think I am much more interested in the low-level part of all of this | 04:00 |
| srichter | I do not care too much about the UI | 04:00 |
| philiKON | that's probably true | 04:00 |
| philiKON | anyway | 04:00 |
| philiKON | i don't mean to pee on your parade | 04:00 |
| * philiKON is tired | 04:00 | |
| philiKON | g'night | 04:00 |
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| srichter | good night | 04:02 |
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| bskahan | gary poster's mail to zope3-dev list mentions some problem with pickling UTC and pytz | 06:18 |
| bskahan | anyone know what problem he's referring to? | 06:19 |
| srichter | nope, but just try it yourself in the python prompt :-) | 06:25 |
| bskahan | heh | 06:27 |
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| zagy | moin | 08:49 |
| Damascene | ifyou say morning, i know i'm up too late haha | 08:50 |
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| zagy | heh | 09:19 |
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| robo | hello, i installed ZopeX3 and got 1 failure when running the test after make | 11:20 |
| robo | http://rafb.net/paste/results/jKNiVZ25.html | 11:20 |
| robo | may i just continue, or is it something critical? | 11:21 |
| robo | I want to test the Five Product later on and don´t want to have a malefunctional server, i think i am not able to fix this myself or at least i would need lot´s of help, it is my first approach to Z3 | 11:26 |
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| vlado | zdaemon is not required by five, so go ahead | 11:33 |
| robo | ^^ oki thanks a lot, now i am happy :) | 11:33 |
| robo | just want to have that good feeling of clean install ^^ | 11:34 |
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| robo | schreib mal ne mail und bedank dich, das endlich mal wieder was los ist, wir würden uns dann mal revanchieren | 17:24 |
| Theuni | ... | 17:25 |
| robo | sorry that was wrong channel, it´s somewhat chaotic here at the moment | 17:25 |
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| mgedmin | strange: if I replace a doctest output line that consists entirely of <BLANKLINE> with a line that consists entirely of ..., that test fails (and yes, I have ELLIPSIS enabled) | 23:12 |
| mgedmin | I assume ... never matches an empty string | 23:13 |
| mgedmin | so 'foo\n\nbar' is not acceptable when I expect 'foo\n...\nbar' | 23:14 |
| mgedmin | anyway, can I raise an exception to cause a redirect without rendering the whole page? | 23:15 |
| mgedmin | I see publisher tracebacks that end with "error: (32, 'Broken pipe')" | 23:16 |
| mgedmin | and I assume they are caused by Firefox closing the http channel as soon as it sees a redirect | 23:16 |
| J1m|away | anybody else getting a test failure on the trunk? | 23:29 |
| mgedmin | J1m|away, which test? | 23:33 |
| * mgedmin wonders why ++etc++site is not available in his stripped-down z3 | 23:34 | |
| J1m|away | The new zapi test | 23:35 |
| J1m|away | Traceback (most recent call last): | 23:35 |
| J1m|away | File "/home/jim/z3/3/src/zope/app/zapi/tests.py", line 26, in test_izapi | 23:35 |
| J1m|away | self.assert_(verifyObject(zapi.interfaces.IZAPI, zapi)) | 23:35 |
| J1m|away | File "/home/jim/z3/3/src/zope/interface/verify.py", line 96, in verifyObject | 23:35 |
| J1m|away | return _verify(iface, candidate, tentative, vtype='o') | 23:35 |
| J1m|away | File "/home/jim/z3/3/src/zope/interface/verify.py", line 51, in _verify | 23:35 |
| J1m|away | raise DoesNotImplement(iface) | 23:35 |
| J1m|away | DoesNotImplement: An object does not implement interface <InterfaceClass zope.app.zapi.interfaces.IZAPI> | 23:35 |
| J1m|away | what's weird is that if I just run that test, it passes | 23:36 |
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| mgedmin | J1m, I see that too | 23:43 |
| J1m | The deprecation proxy is hiding the interface declaration :( | 23:44 |
| J1m | srichter, ayt? | 23:44 |
| J1m | If I run just that test, the deprecation proxy must not be in place. | 23:44 |
| * J1m tries | 23:44 | |
| srichter | J1m: in amoment | 23:45 |
| J1m | No, it's there then too. | 23:45 |
| J1m | weird, there's a deprecation proxy in both cases, but when I run all of the tests, the proxy hids the interface declaration | 23:47 |
| srichter | J1m: back | 23:53 |
| J1m | we have a failing test on the trunk | 23:54 |
| srichter | where? | 23:54 |
| J1m | It is very odd though | 23:54 |
| srichter | not because of me :-) It must have been Amos | 23:54 |
| J1m | Amos, but it's somehow related to deprecation proxies. | 23:54 |
| J1m | He wants to veryfy that zapi provides IZAPI | 23:55 |
| J1m | The deprecation proxy is sometimes hiding this. | 23:56 |
| J1m | It feels as though some other test is doing something to deprecation proxies that is somehow changing their behavior. | 23:56 |
| srichter | mmh, that does not ring a bell | 23:56 |
| srichter | try running all tests but zope.deprecation | 23:57 |
| srichter | mmh, I remember the hiding problem, but I thought I fixed that with the __slots__ stuff | 23:58 |
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