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| mgedmin | aren't relative imports frowned upon in Zope 3 sources? | 13:40 |
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| * mgedmin sees "from submit import Update" in zope.app.form.browser.add | 13:41 | |
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| projekt01 | mgedmin, I think so. | 13:52 |
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| VladDrac | not only frowned upon, they might break/fail your code | 13:57 |
| * VladDrac ran into that a while ago | 13:57 | |
| SteveA | maybe... | 13:58 |
| SteveA | have an __import__ hook when running zope3 tests | 13:58 |
| SteveA | that ensures that relative imports either fail tests, or raise warnings | 13:58 |
| * SteveA is doing something similar for launchpad, but not for relative imports | 13:58 | |
| SteveA | has anyone been running zope3 on amd64 boxes? | 14:36 |
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| * VladDrac 's diving into his workflow issues again | 14:58 | |
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| VladDrac | I just might have fixed it now | 14:59 |
| VladDrac | but knowing my current zope3 karma, I probably haven't | 14:59 |
| VladDrac | indeed I haven't | 15:00 |
| VladDrac | garyposter are you around? | 15:04 |
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| VladDrac | can you just add Zope3 (persistent) objects to a PersistentDict (that itself is member of a persistent object? | 15:09 |
| VladDrac | the persistent dict doesnt' seem to have a _p_jar | 15:09 |
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| * VladDrac is totally confused by containment, persistency, annotation, persistendicts etc | 15:32 | |
| MacYET__ | named utilities are unique in z3? | 15:41 |
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| SteveA | VladDrac: you can just set persistent objects in a PersistentDict. that's the point. | 15:51 |
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| VladDrac | well | 15:53 |
| VladDrac | hmm | 15:54 |
| VladDrac | what's happening is that a standard Zope3 content type is adapted to a ProcessInstanceContainerAdapter | 15:55 |
| VladDrac | which uses a PersistentDict in the annotation to store other workflow process instances | 15:55 |
| VladDrac | somewhere in this process, persistency fails | 15:56 |
| VladDrac | zope/app/keyreference/persistent is looking for a _p_jar somewhere in the parent chain, which fails here | 15:57 |
| VladDrac | probably because the Persistent doesn't have one | 15:57 |
| SteveA | if it is a newly added PersistentDict, then it won't have one until the transaction is committed | 15:58 |
| VladDrac | it is | 15:58 |
| VladDrac | should I commit in between then? | 15:58 |
| SteveA | if that kind of thing is the problem, then the solution is to use _p_jar.add | 15:58 |
| SteveA | no | 15:58 |
| VladDrac | (all of this is not my code) | 15:58 |
| SteveA | you need to use _p_jar.add() | 15:58 |
| VladDrac | _p_jar.add? | 15:58 |
| SteveA | you need to use _p_jar.add(the_dict) | 15:58 |
| SteveA | yeah | 15:58 |
| SteveA | so, you need to get the database connection from somewhere | 15:58 |
| VladDrac | ah ok | 15:58 |
| VladDrac | I can do that | 15:59 |
| SteveA | then, the persistent dict will have a _p_oid and a _p_jar | 15:59 |
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| ignas | hi | 16:08 |
| ignas | any Zope experts around ? :) | 16:09 |
| ignas | what is the exact purpose of includeOverrides directive ? | 16:10 |
| SteveA | it allows you to include an override. | 16:10 |
| SteveA | next | 16:10 |
| SteveA | so... | 16:10 |
| SteveA | include says "include this in the bunch of zcml actions parsed so far, and take note of any conflicts" | 16:10 |
| ignas | problem: | 16:11 |
| SteveA | includeOverrides says "let any conflicts be resolved by making the included zcml directive's actions win" | 16:11 |
| ignas | well the code says otherwise | 16:11 |
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| ignas | _context.actions[nactions:] = newactions => none of the previously contained actions were harmed during the course of this function ... | 16:12 |
| ignas | i mean if i do config.resolveConflicts(_context.actions) before includeOverrides, and i am not geting errors | 16:13 |
| ignas | i should have no errors after includeOverrides unless includeOverrides failed itself | 16:13 |
| ignas | yet somehow i manage to get conflicting directives error after a succesfull pass of the function ... | 16:14 |
| ignas | at least that is what i would expect from the directive, remove old actions in favor of new actions they are conflicting with ... yet show me the part in the function that finds old actions that will be overriden and removes them ... | 16:16 |
| SteveA | ignas: write a doctest that illustrates the problem | 16:16 |
| ignas | i'll try | 16:17 |
| VladDrac | okay | 16:28 |
| VladDrac | I know I've said this before | 16:29 |
| VladDrac | but I really give up now :) | 16:29 |
| * VladDrac will just hack a workaround into zope3, report a bug and hope that someone will fix it | 16:29 | |
| VladDrac | this is just too broken and way beyond my knowledge | 16:29 |
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| ignas | SteveA, sorry for false alarm, aparently i misunderstood the way includes work (i thought old ones should be removed), and the problems was in using ajivi-ftesting.zcml to include ftesting overrides, which aparently was the wrong way ... | 16:46 |
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| jeru | hi all, to start with zope3 I want to create a custom skin. but how can I replace the standard navigation tree page template in my skin ? | 18:28 |
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| projekt01 | Did you inherit your skin from Rotterdam? | 18:29 |
| jeru | projekt01: I used the Boston skin as base | 18:30 |
| projekt01 | Ok, let me deep into the packages shortly | 18:31 |
| jeru | projekt01: thx | 18:31 |
| jeru | projekt01: I created a simple tableless layout so far which works quite well right now | 18:32 |
| projekt01 | Take a look a the zope.app.skintools.zmicookietreebox. This is the source for the tree where is used in the Boston skin. | 18:33 |
| jeru | projekt01: ok ... thanks for the hint :) | 18:33 |
| projekt01 | You can simply add your own package for a navigation tree and register then like the default tree is registered in... | 18:33 |
| projekt01 | ...src.zope.app.boston.pagelets.zmicookietreebox.zcml | 18:34 |
| projekt01 | Hope this pagelet concept is understandable ;-) | 18:34 |
| jeru | projekt01: for now it's quite ok for me as Zope newbie ;-) | 18:35 |
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| projekt01 | jeru, Give me some feedback if the Boston skin and the pagelets are not understandable or to complex. | 18:39 |
| jeru | projekt01: I'll do so :) | 18:39 |
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| jeru | projekt01: the custom nav tree is working now in my skin ... thanks again for your help :) | 19:18 |
| projekt01 | jeru, Cool, this was quick. Did you implement it as a pagelet? | 19:19 |
| jeru | projekt01: yep | 19:19 |
| projekt01 | Whow! | 19:19 |
| projekt01 | jeru, keep in mind that the Boston skin is in a early state and not finished. | 19:21 |
| projekt01 | We will add nested menus later and also improve the tree. | 19:22 |
| projekt01 | If you have a better version of a navigation tree, fell free to commit it to the skintools | 19:22 |
| jeru | projekt01: I have to hurry because I want to finish the new project site for our OSS project till the weekend | 19:22 |
| jeru | projekt01: I think I will contribute the whole skin ... if my tests where successful | 19:23 |
| projekt01 | Drop me a note about the URL of the project if you are finish. | 19:23 |
| projekt01 | Cool | 19:23 |
| jeru | projekt01: ok | 19:23 |
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| jeru | projekt01: btw, how stable is the LDAP authentication ? | 19:28 |
| jeru | and is there sth like a generic LDAP adapter on a todo list ? | 19:31 |
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| srichter | jeru: there is a working LDAP authentication in the repo | 22:45 |
| srichter | it is not part of the core checkout, because it requires the ldap lirary that does not come with python by default | 22:45 |
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| SteveA | srichter: did you make changes to the zcml parsing code to support apidoc? | 23:03 |
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| srichter | no | 23:04 |
| srichter | at least not recently | 23:04 |
| SteveA | perhaps a while ago | 23:05 |
| SteveA | i was trying to implement some directive handlers | 23:05 |
| srichter | we added some code that keeps track of registered directives for documentatoin | 23:05 |
| SteveA | and i discovered that there's some code that keeps track of registered directives for documentation ;-) | 23:05 |
| SteveA | that requires attributes to be present that aren't described in the interfaces | 23:05 |
| srichter | yes, that was done before 3.0 | 23:05 |
| SteveA | so makes the code very difficult to extend or to provide alternative implementations for | 23:05 |
| srichter | ok | 23:06 |
| SteveA | i think i'm the only person so far to need to supply an alternative implementation for the directive handlers | 23:06 |
| srichter | I did not relalize someone would ever want to componentize zope.configuration | 23:06 |
| SteveA | but, when i was looking at it, i wasn't sure what the values are exactly for | 23:06 |
| SteveA | so i didn't feel in a position to just add them | 23:06 |
| srichter | ok, I see | 23:07 |
| SteveA | can we take a look at it together sometime? | 23:07 |
| srichter | sure | 23:07 |
| srichter | tomorrow? | 23:07 |
| SteveA | what timezone are you on? | 23:07 |
| SteveA | i'm around generally from 7am UTC until 7pm UTC | 23:10 |
| SteveA | my use-case was writing something that will parse all the zcml my project is using, but not process the browser: directives | 23:10 |
| SteveA | so, i used a config engine that uses "null" factories / processors for browser directives | 23:11 |
| srichter | EST | 23:15 |
| srichter | oh, I see | 23:15 |
| srichter | I have a look before tomorrow then | 23:15 |
| SteveA | there's no big rush for me | 23:15 |
| SteveA | but i'd like to get it sorted out, and i think you have the most knowledge in this area | 23:16 |
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