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| zagy | moin | 08:38 |
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| Damascene | oh no | 08:53 |
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| MacYET | philikon! | 12:13 |
| philiKON | MacYET, ! | 12:22 |
| mgedmin | zope 3 url traversers are too difficult | 12:25 |
| MacYET | can you explain why utilities registered with a factory can not be created through createObject()? | 12:25 |
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| MacYET | tarek_: you're working with textindexng in cps? | 12:26 |
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| tarek_ | hello MacYET, | 12:39 |
| tarek_ | It's not the default one yet but will be. It is in some products | 12:40 |
| MacYET | ic..you might look at txng v3 | 12:45 |
| tarek_ | oh, ok | 12:50 |
| tarek_ | thanks for the tip | 12:50 |
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| tarek_ | is this something you've just released ? | 12:53 |
| MacYET | hopefully during the next days | 12:54 |
| MacYET | it's in the cvs | 12:54 |
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| tarek_ | cool :) | 12:57 |
| MacYET | preparing beta 1 now | 13:10 |
| tarek_ | cool | 13:13 |
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| MacYET | tarek_: b1 is available from SF | 13:19 |
| tarek_ | ok i'll check for it today or tomorrow thks | 13:26 |
| tarek_ | so you dropped left truncation ? | 13:26 |
| MacYET | i re-added it on sunday | 13:30 |
| MacYET | although it is an expensive operation | 13:30 |
| tarek_ | yup | 13:31 |
| tarek_ | so have you planned a Z3 version yet ? | 13:31 |
| MacYET | the core is z3-ish | 13:32 |
| MacYET | the z2 stuff is just a thin layer | 13:32 |
| tarek_ | i've read Jim's doc on Z3 Catalog on CVS, it's quite interesting | 13:32 |
| tarek_ | oh ok | 13:32 |
| MacYET | on top of the core | 13:32 |
| MacYET | means, you need zope 2.8 | 13:32 |
| tarek_ | k | 13:32 |
| tarek_ | s/CVS/SVN | 13:32 |
| MacYET | but the core is z3 only | 13:33 |
| MacYET | no z2 magic :) | 13:33 |
| tarek_ | :) | 13:33 |
| VladDrac | tarek> which doc/where? | 13:45 |
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| VladDrac | def __setitem__(self, key, object): | 14:48 |
| VladDrac | "See IProcessInstanceContainer" | 14:48 |
| VladDrac | # We cannot make the message the parent right away, since it is not | 14:48 |
| VladDrac | # added to any message board yet; | 14:48 |
| VladDrac | setitem(self, self.wfdata.__setitem__, key, object) | 14:48 |
| VladDrac | looks a bit messageboard specific :) | 14:48 |
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| * VladDrac found out what's wrong | 15:15 | |
| VladDrac | the mix catalog + workflow + intid | 15:15 |
| VladDrac | catalog subscribes to IntIdAddedEvent and attempts to index the catalog | 15:16 |
| VladDrac | which simply fails for some workflow machinery (that shouldn't be indexed in the first place) | 15:16 |
| VladDrac | damn why is svn.zope.org so slow? | 15:24 |
| VladDrac | yay! bug fixed | 15:26 |
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| VladDrac | damn | 16:30 |
| VladDrac | my fix won't work | 16:31 |
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| * VladDrac wonders if his code will ever work | 16:56 | |
| * VladDrac tests zope-hack #902389234 | 16:59 | |
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| VladDrac | and it fails | 17:02 |
| VladDrac | okay | 17:02 |
| VladDrac | time to abort my project and start doign something usefull | 17:02 |
| VladDrac | zope3 is just not ready yet for me :( | 17:03 |
| MacYET | take a beer and php | 17:06 |
| VladDrac | yeah or worse, plone | 17:06 |
| VladDrac | but at least it has a working catalog/workflow combination | 17:06 |
| GaryPoster | VladDrac: the original traceback you sent indicates that the workflow object has not yet been added to the ZODB. | 17:07 |
| GaryPoster | I don't know anything about that workflow package, so I can't help you there. | 17:07 |
| GaryPoster | But basically, if you can see someplace in the workflow code where the object is being added to a parent (already in the ZODB), and move it to before where you are encountering the problem, then that might help. | 17:08 |
| VladDrac | the catalog/intid is trying to index the workflow object. Don't know why it fails, but it doesn't make any sense, but *every* workaround I try has sideeffects | 17:09 |
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| GaryPoster | It fails because they can only work with objects that have been added to the ZODB. | 17:09 |
| GaryPoster | You can actually hack around this, even, I think--give the object a connection before you know where you want to put it--but the better approach is to try and add it to the database first, | 17:10 |
| GaryPoster | And yes, the catalog/workflow story needs a more user/developer-friendly story. | 17:11 |
| VladDrac | how do you add it to the database? | 17:12 |
| GaryPoster | So moving on might be a good solution for now. If you want to explore a bit more, I'd try to figure out where the workflow object is added and make it happen before the event is fired that kicks the catalog/intid utility | 17:12 |
| VladDrac | a setitem() is being done | 17:12 |
| GaryPoster | To what? Before the event is fired? | 17:13 |
| VladDrac | doesn't setitem() trigger the event? | 17:13 |
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| GaryPoster | depends on the container | 17:13 |
| GaryPoster | (I'm sorry, I really know nothing about that workflow package) | 17:14 |
| GaryPoster | but yes, usually. | 17:14 |
| VladDrac | ok, well the workflow tool is trying to add some state to my object, this causes an ObjectAdded event, which the IntId tool intercepts, whch the catalog intercepts which tries the to index the specific workflow object | 17:15 |
| * VladDrac often gets lost | 17:15 | |
| GaryPoster | heh, understood. | 17:15 |
| GaryPoster | I know the intid/catalog stuff. Give me a module and line number for the workflow tool bit? | 17:16 |
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| VladDrac | let's see | 17:17 |
| GaryPoster | Also, has your object already been added to a container at this point? | 17:18 |
| GaryPoster | (a container which is itself already connected, eventually, to the Zope root?) | 17:18 |
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| VladDrac | it's in the process of being added | 17:20 |
| VladDrac | adding the object triggers both catalog and workflow subscribers | 17:20 |
| VladDrac | zope.app.workflow.instance ProcessInstanceContainerAdapter.__setitem__ plays a role | 17:20 |
| VladDrac | ah yeah, that addapts IAnnotatable to erm... | 17:21 |
| VladDrac | something else :) | 17:21 |
| GaryPoster | heh | 17:21 |
| VladDrac | ope/app/workflow/stateful/contentworkflow.py | 17:24 |
| VladDrac | def NewObjectProcessInstanceCreator(obj, event): | 17:24 |
| GaryPoster | yeah, it looks like your context (your object) hasn't been added to a container yet, so it doesn't have a connection yet. Either that, or the annotation you're using has a bug...hoping that's not the case. | 17:25 |
| VladDrac | pi_container[pd_name] = pi | 17:25 |
| VladDrac | 17:25 | |
| GaryPoster | you ok with pdb? | 17:25 |
| VladDrac | yeah | 17:25 |
| * VladDrac 's been pdbing for two days now :) | 17:25 | |
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| GaryPoster | lol. I'd try a pdb in app/worflow/instance.py...inside the __init__ of ProcessInstanceContainerAdapter...and see if context has a ._p_jar attribute | 17:26 |
| VladDrac | hold on need to revert my workarounds | 17:27 |
| GaryPoster | ok cool, need to do some work :-). ping me when you're ready. | 17:27 |
| VladDrac | ready | 17:27 |
| VladDrac | > /home/ivo/Work/Zope3/Zope3-svn/src/zope/app/workflow/instance.py(72)__init__() | 17:28 |
| VladDrac | -> self.context = context | 17:28 |
| VladDrac | (Pdb) print self._p_jar | 17:28 |
| VladDrac | *** AttributeError: 'ProcessInstanceContainerAdapter' object has no attribute '_p_jar' | 17:28 |
| GaryPoster | print context._p_jar | 17:30 |
| VladDrac | None | 17:30 |
| GaryPoster | context is your object? | 17:31 |
| VladDrac | (Pdb) print context | 17:31 |
| VladDrac | <cubic.types.document.Document object at 0xb677bf6c> | 17:31 |
| VladDrac | it is | 17:31 |
| GaryPoster | so that's the root of the problem (or getting closer to it, at least): context must have a _p_jar by now. | 17:31 |
| GaryPoster | usually that happens by having put your object in or on another object that already is in the ZODB. | 17:33 |
| VladDrac | afaik I'm depending on the basic Zope3 machinery here | 17:33 |
| GaryPoster | Your code needs to make sure that happens before you do whatever you do that's running this code (waves hands) | 17:33 |
| GaryPoster | ah... | 17:33 |
| VladDrac | erm and well, workflow stuff of course | 17:33 |
| GaryPoster | give me a 'w'. | 17:33 |
| GaryPoster | i.e., pdb 'where' | 17:34 |
| VladDrac | http://paste.plone.org/1695 <- there | 17:34 |
| GaryPoster | k one sec | 17:34 |
| GaryPoster | p context.__parent__ | 17:36 |
| GaryPoster | for me? | 17:36 |
| VladDrac | None | 17:37 |
| GaryPoster | k. brb. | 17:38 |
| GaryPoster | back. What version of Zope 3 is this? | 17:40 |
| GaryPoster | Not head, right? | 17:40 |
| GaryPoster | ah, here's the problem. | 17:41 |
| VladDrac | trunk | 17:42 |
| GaryPoster | the workflow stuff is connected to the create event. This workflow code can't work connected to the create event. | 17:42 |
| GaryPoster | it can work connected to the add event. | 17:43 |
| GaryPoster | the create event is fired before the object gets added to the database | 17:44 |
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| GaryPoster | did you hook the event up (in zcml) or was that in Zope 3 proper? | 17:44 |
| GaryPoster | I mean, is this potentially a bug in your zcml or is it a bug in the Zope 3 zcml? | 17:46 |
| GaryPoster | VladDrac, ping me (write my nick) when you reply... | 17:48 |
| VladDrac | I didn't add any events for this (garyposter) | 17:48 |
| GaryPoster | :-) that was quick | 17:49 |
| VladDrac | gary all I'm doing is mix catalog and workflow | 17:50 |
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| GaryPoster | VladDrac: sorry, my client crashed :-( | 17:54 |
| VladDrac | <VladDrac> gary all I'm doing is mix catalog and workflow | 17:54 |
| VladDrac | is what you might have missed | 17:54 |
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| GaryPoster | Right, so here's the problem: zope/app/workflow/stateful/configure.zcml line 127. Like I said, I don't know the workflow package, but that should not be a create event subscription. | 17:56 |
| GaryPoster | that should be to zope.app.container.interfaces.IObjectAddedEvent in order for what you want to work. | 17:59 |
| VladDrac | ah ok | 18:00 |
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| VladDrac | I assume I'm not the only one right? :) | 18:00 |
| GaryPoster | srichter, does anyone maintain zope.app.workflow? | 18:00 |
| GaryPoster | Jim thinks its not really maintained | 18:01 |
| GaryPoster | it's | 18:01 |
| * VladDrac has to leave in a few minutes | 18:01 | |
| VladDrac | but I'll try the new event first | 18:01 |
| GaryPoster | cool. | 18:01 |
| VladDrac | hmm | 18:01 |
| VladDrac | problem seems to remain | 18:02 |
| GaryPoster | restarted? | 18:03 |
| VladDrac | restarted yeah | 18:04 |
| VladDrac | added the breakpoint again - context now has a proper parent | 18:05 |
| GaryPoster | ok, next time you want to tackle this send me the traceback | 18:05 |
| VladDrac | tx | 18:06 |
| VladDrac | gottago now | 18:06 |
| GaryPoster | cool | 18:06 |
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| Theuni | hmm | 18:08 |
| * Theuni notes that there would be potential for gocept's workflow engine to make it to the Zope 3 world in some future | 18:08 | |
| MacYET | yeah | 18:09 |
| GaryPoster | yep, that would be good. Jim has some workflow code in zope/wfmc that we're using internally | 18:11 |
| GaryPoster | but it needs a lot of connecting wires | 18:11 |
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| srichter | GaryPoster: I maintain it as it is in my and Phillip's book | 18:19 |
| srichter | I will fix it for the release again | 18:19 |
| GaryPoster | ok, cool. thanks | 18:19 |
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| MrTopf | 'evening | 23:53 |
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