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| jabba2k | how do I open a ZODB connection for a thread? I get "ZODB.POSException.ConnectionStateError: Shouldn't load state for 0x06d2 when the connection is closed" errors all the time when trying to add stuff to a container... | 23:00 | 
| J1m | connection = theDB.open() | 23:02 | 
| J1m | how are you getting the container? | 23:02 | 
| philiKON | hi J1m | 23:02 | 
| J1m | hi | 23:02 | 
| jabba2k | I have it available via annotations | 23:02 | 
| philiKON | EP was cool | 23:02 | 
| J1m | jabba2k, how did you get the annotations? | 23:03 | 
| jabba2k | :) I have a twisted reactor and irc connection object that gets called when data arrives... | 23:03 | 
| J1m | philiKON, I thought it went through Friday. Hm. | 23:04 | 
| philiKON | no, monday thru wednesday | 23:04 | 
| J1m | jabba2k, how did you get the annotations? | 23:04 | 
| jabba2k | IAnnotations(context) | 23:05 | 
| jabba2k | is that what you mean? | 23:05 | 
| J1m | philiKON, was there much discussion of the zope foundation or Z3ECM? | 23:05 | 
| J1m | jabba2k, that's a start | 23:05 | 
| J1m | jabba2k, where does context come from? | 23:05 | 
| J1m | jabba2k, is this a multi-threaded app? | 23:06 | 
| philiKON | J1m, we had a z3 ecm panel | 23:06 | 
| jabba2k | :) i looked at the messageboard example and kinda copied the mail subscriber thingy, context is a Network container.. i better explain the structure of my app: | 23:06 | 
| philiKON | J1m, i had to leave early for the flight so i missed rob's talk on the foundation | 23:06 | 
| J1m | philiKON, dang | 23:07 | 
| philiKON | J1m, i talked to rob about it for 5 minutes though | 23:07 | 
| J1m | philiKON, about zf? or z3ecm? | 23:07 | 
| jabba2k | the connection gets data and generates an event object incl a network object, then notify'ing it with zope.event.notify. a subscriber that accesses that network object in the event and uses annotations to get a list of subscribers | 23:07 | 
| philiKON | most of the issues and questions were answered during the irc session anyway, though | 23:07 | 
| philiKON | about the zf | 23:07 | 
| philiKON | the z3 ecm panel was technical | 23:08 | 
| J1m | jabba2k, are you talking about a zope app? | 23:09 | 
| philiKON | martijn, florent, joel burteon, stevea and me were in it; tres led it | 23:09 | 
| jabba2k | yes, I want to create an irc bot within zope | 23:09 | 
| philiKON | we talked about release management, focus of z3 ecm, development cycles and methods, etc. | 23:09 | 
| J1m | jabba2k, does this bot run in it's own thread? | 23:10 | 
| jabba2k | i'm using ThreadedAsync.register_loop_callback | 23:10 | 
| J1m | uh | 23:11 | 
| J1m | That just lets you find out when someone starts the async loop. | 23:11 | 
| J1m | jabba2k, does this bot run in it's own thread? | 23:11 | 
| srichter | jabba2k: you should really wait for the twisted integration or use my twisted branch | 23:12 | 
| jabba2k | i'm using twisteds threadedselectreactor reactor, which wants a callback method. i use ThreadedAsync.register_loop_callback to get those callbacks that drive twisted | 23:12 | 
| jabba2k | srichter: yeah, is there a public viewcvs for your branch? | 23:13 | 
| J1m | jabba2k, I can't believe that ThreadedAsync.register_loop_callback has anything to do with what you want, whatever that is. | 23:13 | 
| srichter | yeah, go to svn.zope.org; go to the Zope 3 branches and look for twisted | 23:14 | 
| jabba2k | J1m: I need to run the twisted reactor, and as i don't wanted to create my own thread i tought i could use that ;) | 23:15 | 
| J1m | Anyay, connections and their persistent objects cannot be shared accross th | 23:15 | 
| J1m | damn | 23:15 | 
| J1m | Anyay, connections and their persistent objects cannot be shared accross threads | 23:15 | 
| J1m | Furthermore, if you grab some persistent object you got from a web request, you can only use it in that request. | 23:16 | 
| J1m | You can't save it and use it in another request or outside a request. | 23:16 | 
| jabba2k | uhh | 23:17 | 
| J1m | If you want to access persistent objects outside of a web request you need to open your own database connection and get the persistent object from that. | 23:17 | 
| jhauser_ | in zope-2.8 I try to get at the acquisition context in the setter method, but there seems to be no such context, is this a feature of property? | 23:17 | 
| srichter | jhauser_: this is a Zope 3 only room | 23:18 | 
| philiKON | srichter, i told jhauser_ to ask j1m here | 23:18 | 
| jhauser_ | thanks | 23:18 | 
| J1m | jhauser_, what is a setter method? | 23:18 | 
| jhauser_ | data=property(getter, setter) | 23:19 | 
| philiKON | foo = property(getFoo, setFoo) i presume | 23:19 | 
| J1m | properties don't participate in acquisition. | 23:20 | 
| J1m | (or, pyt another way, acquisition doesn't mess with properties. | 23:20 | 
| J1m | ) | 23:20 | 
| jhauser_ | oh ok, thanks so it is not a problem in my usage | 23:20 | 
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| andrew_m | is it generally possible that a custom widget can add something to the header of a page (e.g. a <script ..> tag) by filling in some slot or so? | 23:54 | 
| philiKON | no, unfortunately not | 23:55 | 
| andrew_m | ach.. | 23:55 | 
| philiKON | a pagelet driven skin and form machinery shoudl solve that | 23:56 | 
| andrew_m | ok, i am using boston which has pagelets | 23:56 | 
| andrew_m | thanks | 23:57 | 
| philiKON | then you can register a pagelet that provides some JS | 23:57 | 
| andrew_m | ok, i'll try that instead | 23:57 | 
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