tiredbones | Next question. When I type make for zope I'm informed that it can't find python's Makefile. Prior to doing the make for Zope 3 I removed all references to python 2.3, including the config file for 2.3. I did not think it would remove 2.4 config. I'm using synaptic for package mgmt.Do I have to reinstall python 2.4? | 00:15 |
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shapr | Is python2.4 already installed? | 00:17 |
tiredbones | yes | 00:17 |
tiredbones | shapr, It has no Makefile though. | 00:18 |
shapr | You can use ./configure --with-python=/usr/bin/python2.4 (I'm assuming you're using Debian?) | 00:18 |
tiredbones | shapr, I'll try that. Thanks | 00:18 |
fdrake | if you're using a "system" Python installation, you may need to install a separate package to get distutils and all the support files it uses | 00:19 |
dman13 | tiredbones: it is typical for software using autoconf/automake to have no makefile when you download it, but the configure script creates it tailored for your system | 00:19 |
fdrake | it's usually called something like python-dev or python-devel | 00:19 |
shapr | Ah right, you may need to install python2.4-setuptools | 00:20 |
fdrake | setuptools is something else, and is not needed for Zope | 00:20 |
fdrake | (though it is pretty cool if you're a Python developer) | 00:20 |
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tiredbones | shapr, I tried ./configure --with-python /usr/bin/python2.4, but still getting that I have a make problem. here's the error invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile (No such file or directory | 00:29 |
fdrake | tiredbones, are you building your own Python, or just your own Zope? | 00:29 |
th1a | Do you have python-dev? | 00:30 |
tiredbones | fdrake, just zope, | 00:30 |
J1m | srichter, ayt? | 00:30 |
shapr | Did you put the equals sign there on the command line? ./configure --with-python=/usr/bin/python2.4 | 00:30 |
fdrake | tiredbones, then you need to install python-dev, python-devel, or whatever your distro calls the developer package for Python. | 00:31 |
fdrake | you have an incomplete Python installation, since some silly distributors put it together that way | 00:31 |
tiredbones | I just notice that it tell me that it's looking for the Makefile in lib | 00:31 |
tiredbones | not bin | 00:31 |
fdrake | right | 00:31 |
fdrake | that gets installed as part of a normal Python installation | 00:31 |
fdrake | your distributor broke things by splitting into a separate package | 00:32 |
th1a | tiredbones: You need python-dev. | 00:32 |
fdrake | you need to install python-dev or some such package | 00:32 |
tiredbones | ok, I'll look to see what synatic tells me. | 00:32 |
fdrake | "python-dev" | 00:33 |
fdrake | (for Debian-alikes) | 00:33 |
shapr | python2.4-dev | 00:33 |
tiredbones | Ok, It looks like that done it. Thank yoooou all. | 00:36 |
* shapr cheers | 00:37 | |
tiredbones | Just want you all to that all those dot a very artistic! | 00:39 |
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tiredbones | Do you folks expect some test to fail/ | 00:44 |
tiredbones | I had 2 test fail when running the check. | 00:44 |
fdrake | did you run the tests as root? | 00:45 |
tiredbones | fdrake, yes | 00:45 |
fdrake | don't :-) | 00:45 |
tiredbones | Was that a no no . | 00:45 |
fdrake | right; build and test can be run as a "normal" users | 00:46 |
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tiredbones | fdrake, should I do it over as a "normal" user? | 00:47 |
fdrake | just the tests | 00:47 |
dman13 | tiredbones: in general don't do stuff as root | 00:47 |
dman13 | tiredbones: root can do anything, including destroy your system or send your personal information to everyone on the internet | 00:48 |
tiredbones | dman13, I know, but sometimes I get lazy. | 00:49 |
tiredbones | Should I have did any clean-up before running the check test? I'm getting alot of lock permission errors. | 00:51 |
tiredbones | Error type is 13. | 00:52 |
th1a | You should probably start over not as root. | 00:52 |
tiredbones | Okay, I'll do that. | 00:52 |
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dman13 | tiredbones: starting over will definitely resolve all your permission issues | 00:56 |
dman13 | tiredbones: otherwise use 'chmod' and/or 'chown' to make things accessible to your normal account | 00:56 |
tiredbones | dman13, Like I said, I'm lazy, so I'll start over the other way is to mych typing. | 00:58 |
th1a | I give lazy, brute force advice. | 00:58 |
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tiredbones | I received one error on the check, It refers to a process wasn't spawn in one menute. It this ok? | 01:10 |
dman13 | tiredbones: are you using an older/slower/overloaded machine? | 01:10 |
dman13 | if so, then yeah that's more-or-less expected | 01:10 |
dman13 | tiredbones: regarding changing the permissions - yeah it is a bit of typing to do that | 01:12 |
tiredbones | dman13, yes - it is an older machine. At least five years old and getting older. | 01:12 |
dman13 | tiredbones: I do it when I install because i don't want to run the installation as root :-) | 01:12 |
dman13 | that test doesn't have any good way to know when the process has started in order to know if the test failed or if it should wait longer, so it just waits a while and then hopes the subprocess had enough time | 01:13 |
dman13 | on slower machines it doesn't always work, and just increasing the timeout long enough should make it work on your system | 01:13 |
dman13 | I forget what the test is about, but the zope-coders archive has a discussion about it (IIRC it was a few months ago) | 01:13 |
tiredbones | dman13, thanks for your time. I'll look when I get some time.Right now I have to get Zope3 installed, followed by Flex3 and then Schoolbell. | 01:16 |
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dman13 | tiredbones: aptitude install schoolbell | 01:27 |
dman13 | :-) | 01:27 |
dman13 | tiredbones: schoolbell is very nice, btw | 01:27 |
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shapr | hi Aiste | 13:34 |
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Aiste | shapr: hi | 13:36 |
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bmc | hiall | 17:44 |
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bmc | is there anyone who did compile zope3 on FreeBSD (5.4)? | 17:44 |
srichter | do you have problems? | 17:45 |
bmc | yes | 17:45 |
srichter | I don't think we had problems regarding compiling yet | 17:45 |
srichter | GCC version? | 17:45 |
bmc | there is an error during "make check" | 17:45 |
srichter | error message? | 17:45 |
bmc | second | 17:45 |
srichter | are you running make check as root? | 17:46 |
srichter | if so, don't | 17:46 |
bmc | heh, thansk | 17:47 |
benji_york | srichter, I see that failure mode alot, perhaps we should put a check in make check to fail early when run as root with an informative error message | 17:47 |
srichter | we have a message | 17:48 |
srichter | Stuart added one saying: You run as root, don't do that. | 17:48 |
bmc | well - error comes again even if i`m not root | 17:49 |
benji_york | hmm, perhaps it should be LOUDER, as people don't seem to notice it | 17:49 |
bmc | error: (49, "Can't assign requested address") | 17:49 |
bmc | in zeoserver.py | 17:49 |
srichter | that seems like you cannot bind to a port | 17:50 |
bmc | when it "self.socket.bind(addr)" | 17:50 |
bmc | yes | 17:50 |
bmc | i know ;) | 17:50 |
srichter | you can ignore this failure, if you are not using ZEO | 17:50 |
srichter | fdrake: I have a functional release setup for SchoolTool using zpkgtools now :-) | 17:50 |
bmc | it gives A LOT of errors, so I can`t see other important one | 17:51 |
srichter | oh, I see | 17:51 |
srichter | send a message to zope3-dev, the chance that a BSD user is reading it is higher | 17:51 |
bmc | anyway it seems like error in config/make file/... - there is no option been sent to zeoserver.py it expect to find | 17:52 |
bmc | # We don't do much sanity checking of the arguments, since if we get it | 17:52 |
bmc | # wrong, it's a bug in the test suite. | 17:52 |
bmc | (it was text from zeoserver.py) | 17:52 |
bmc | ok, thanks anyway | 17:53 |
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fdrake | srichter, just remember I had this window :-) | 19:17 |
fdrake | srichter, cool about the ST package | 19:17 |
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MJ | Whaaa? | 21:39 |
MJ | A string-based exception in Zope3?? | 21:39 |
* MJ takes out a firearm and shoots it | 21:39 | |
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J1m | where? | 21:42 |
SteveA | well, MJ just shot a firearm | 21:43 |
MJ | src/zope/app/workflow/stateful/definition.py | 21:43 |
J1m | ah | 21:43 |
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MJ | SteveA: Best thing you can do with em ;) | 21:43 |
MJ | LOL | 21:44 |
J1m | I'd be happy to see that workflow package go away. | 21:44 |
MJ | Right | 21:44 |
MJ | But, in the meantime I'll tak any such string-based exceptions out to the back for the kind treatment. | 21:45 |
J1m | Sounds good to me. :) | 21:46 |
MJ | I'll just convert them to local exception class definitions; provided there's noone catching them. | 21:47 |
MJ | If they are meant to be part of an interface I'll declare them there. | 21:48 |
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drzoltron_ | I try to create objects (zapi.createObject) but get a ComponentLookupError: ('Could not adapt', ...) .. any idea ? | 22:14 |
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MJ | Found another in the documenttemplate package | 22:19 |
MJ | dt_in.py InError, used twice. | 22:19 |
J1m | Yeah, that's ported Zope 2 code. :) | 22:20 |
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MJ | Figures :) | 22:23 |
drzoltron_ | do I have to declare a special factory when I want to add objects using zapi.createObject() ? | 22:23 |
MJ | Both have Stephan's fingerprints on them :) | 22:23 |
J1m | That's just because he did the port. | 22:24 |
J1m | He gets blamed for all sort of things. | 22:24 |
J1m | Some of them aren't even his fault. ;) | 22:24 |
MJ | Correction, the dt_in is your fault ;) | 22:25 |
MJ | At least, according to blame | 22:25 |
J1m | I'm innocent! I've been framed! | 22:26 |
benji_york | Another J1m typo, that should have been "I've been blamed!" | 22:27 |
MJ | LoL | 22:27 |
MJ | 8532, renaming | 22:27 |
J1m | Thanks. | 22:27 |
MJ | revision that still ties the file to Jim | 22:27 |
MJ | But my silly svn client doesn't tell me from where... | 22:28 |
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MJ | Ah, that's a pre-svn rename | 22:31 |
MJ | Hence the loss of the connection | 22:31 |
MJ | Jim, you'll get the benefit of the doubt | 22:32 |
drzoltron_ | WTF are srichter-blow-services ?? | 22:32 |
MJ | Such a name.. | 22:32 |
MJ | boggles the mind. | 22:33 |
drzoltron_ | hehe | 22:33 |
benji_york | the branch in which srichter removed services (while armed with a revolver, apparently) | 22:33 |
drzoltron_ | hehe | 22:33 |
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