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| newpers | will zope3 work with python 2.4? | 00:39 |
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| srichter | yes | 00:54 |
| newpers | is it safe to start developing around zope3, are is it still at an early stage in development? | 00:59 |
| newpers | are = or | 01:01 |
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| MJ | I'd say it's safe | 01:08 |
| MJ | But decide on one version now | 01:09 |
| MJ | Say, 3.1 | 01:09 |
| MJ | Schooltool, schoolbell, Launchpad, Chronolog, plenty of projects are already building on Z3 | 01:09 |
| philiKON | newpers, sure, like MJ said, lots of projects are already using zope 3 | 01:12 |
| philiKON | zope 3.1 definitely changes the landscape | 01:12 |
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| newpers | thanks, MJ | 01:26 |
| newpers | you would recommend, 3.1? | 01:26 |
| newpers | as opposed to the lastest version of 2 | 01:26 |
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| ksmith | does Z3 have an auto-reload option for developing products? | 01:51 |
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| srichter | ksmith99: nope | 03:06 |
| newpers | what would you recommend. i need to start building this cms. should i build on 3.1, wait for 3.2, build on 2? or do i just forget about zope and do something else. zope seems promising, but the parallel versions are confusing me. | 03:15 |
| ignas | ksmith99, yes | 03:32 |
| ignas | ksmith99, somewhat hacky, not allways working, though one can arange it iirc | 03:32 |
| ignas | ksmith99, http://gintasm.blogspot.com/ | 03:33 |
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| yota | hi :) | 15:10 |
| srichter | hi | 15:13 |
| yota | hi srichter :) | 15:13 |
| yota | how translate the term "bookkeeping information" ? | 15:14 |
| yota | bookkeeping = all of transaction ? | 15:15 |
| yota | -of | 15:15 |
| srichter | in which context is this meant? | 15:16 |
| srichter | bookkeeping is usually keeping track of soemthing, accounting, ... | 15:16 |
| yota | "id of the effective user at the time the bookeeping information was created" | 15:17 |
| yota | yes usually bookkeeping is the recording transactions of a business | 15:18 |
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| srichter | yota: can you give me a line number? | 16:03 |
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| ksmith99 | srichter: ty | 17:04 |
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| ksmith99 | ignas: ty, I'll try it out, looks like it reloads views, I'm really only interested in reloading pagetemplates, seems a shame to restart just for .pt files | 17:05 |
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| roym | I understand that looping thru view/widgets causes the registered | 17:44 |
| roym | IInputWidget adapter for each, to display an editable view. However, | 17:44 |
| roym | I can't seem to figure out (from reading the docs) how I can force the | 17:44 |
| roym | registered IDisplayWidget to render the object. Am I missing the | 17:44 |
| roym | obvious here? | 17:44 |
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| VargR | is anyone aware of a Zope3+AJAX project around somewhere? Or can someone point me towards docs about how to "properly" (read: "staying within the Z3 paradigms") do this? | 17:50 |
| jhauser | there is a proposal for a resource registry, where probably the ajax stuff would be registered | 17:53 |
| jhauser | but there is no defined "proper" way | 17:54 |
| ksmith99 | I haven't located any notes on this, has zope.app.workflow been omitted from Zope-3.1.0c3? | 17:55 |
| VargR | grr :-) so it would probably the most straight-forward solution to define page views for all the page fragments that I'd eventually load asynchronously? | 17:56 |
| jhauser | another idea is to hook into the widget system | 17:57 |
| d2m | VargR: the AZAX project is mentioned here http://blogs.nuxeo.com/sections/blogs/fermigier/2005_06_26_sprint_wrapup | 17:58 |
| VargR | jhauser: I was thinking about doing this for the autocompletion text inputs,yes | 17:58 |
| VargR | d2m: oh, neat! do you know whether AZAX moved towards being integrated into Z3 any further? | 18:00 |
| d2m | VargR: you might ask tarek in #z3lab | 18:01 |
| VargR | d2m: thanks, will do! | 18:01 |
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| bob2 | ksmith99: it wasn;t in 3.0, either | 18:23 |
| bob2 | but it's in svn | 18:23 |
| bob2 | I don't know why | 18:23 |
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| srichter | ksmith99: page templates always reload automatically even without the extra package | 18:55 |
| roym | if I may ask my earlier question a different way - when does the rendering machinery do a queryView on IDisplayWidget? I put a trace statement in queryMultiAdapter, and I can see plenty of queries on IInputWidget, but none for IDisplayWidget. Is there a "view/widget" path that I can use to force a widget to display - currently, I am displaying the value as context/thingy. | 18:56 |
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| ksmith99 | srichter: ty | 20:54 |
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| ksmith99 | bob2: yeah, that's why I'm confused since it's in the svn, i'm going to download it seperately and see how it goes... also zope.app.module | 20:58 |
| bob2 | I just use a svn checkout now | 20:58 |
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| srichter | everything that is not released will have no guarantee on API | 21:43 |
| srichter | zope.app.workflow will nto be supported at all | 21:43 |
| srichter | most people switched to zope.wfmc and zope.app.wfmc | 21:44 |
| srichter | zope.app.module contains code to have local Python modules; we do not support TTW development yet, so there is no point in releasing it | 21:46 |
| srichter | also Jim wants to develop a new TTW development model as far as I understand | 21:46 |
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| ksmith99 | srichter, thanks... it definately takes some doing to get up to speed :) | 23:38 |
| newpers | is Richter's book: Zope 3 Developer's Handbook any good? | 23:44 |
| newpers | or is this better: Web Component Development with Zope 3 | 23:47 |
| * srichter thinks Richter's book is pretty okay. | 23:49 | |
| newpers | haha. hi | 23:50 |
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