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| projekt01 | philiKON, ayt? | 00:19 |
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| projekt01 | I miss the macro part from the pagelets ;-) | 00:30 |
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| * projekt01 is thinking about to rename the pagelet to macro and bring it back to z3 again. | 00:32 | |
| projekt01 | pagelet where a very good layout helper concept too, where viewlets can do nothing because of their leak of ZPT integration level | 00:35 |
| philiKON | philiKON, now i am | 00:42 |
| philiKON | err, projekt01 | 00:42 |
| projekt01 | Yup | 00:43 |
| philiKON | well, pagelets could be viewlets with zpt macros | 00:43 |
| projekt01 | perhaps there is space for both concept in z3 | 00:44 |
| philiKON | perhaps | 00:45 |
| philiKON | i'm still waiting for a formal proposal on all this anyways | 00:45 |
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| projekt01 | I really prefer viewlets, but I can't use them for use a (layout) marco for a viewlet. Before the layout part was also a pagelet. | 00:46 |
| projekt01 | I hope srichter has some time on the sprint for write one. I will implement this part in the Boston skin as a sample there. | 00:47 |
| projekt01 | srichter, we need another directive for region, because if we have a template with s defined region without a registered viewlet, the page will run into a ViewletRegionLookupError | 00:52 |
| projekt01 | srichter, regions must be defined within a template, the registration can't be only made in the viewlet directive. | 00:53 |
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| batok | isn't CMF ready to work with zope 3? | 01:14 |
| projekt01 | batok, perhaps in one year or so | 01:14 |
| batok | therefore plone nor cps | 01:15 |
| batok | tks | 01:15 |
| projekt01 | there is a Five project at codespeak | 01:16 |
| batok | to make zope2 work with zope3? | 01:16 |
| projekt01 | Yes | 01:16 |
| projekt01 | that's the first step for a CMS migration, I guess | 01:17 |
| batok | do you know of any useful product for zope3? | 01:17 |
| batok | besides zwiki | 01:18 |
| projekt01 | not really, we are working on a framework but this isn't a product at all. See svn.tiks.org for the code | 01:19 |
| projekt01 | there is no out of the box solution, I guess this won't change till next year. | 01:20 |
| batok | ok | 01:20 |
| projekt01 | Perhaps the schooltool is a good product if you are looking for a sample, but it's not a CMS | 01:21 |
| batok | is that product in tiks? | 01:21 |
| projekt01 | no, see http://www.schooltool.org/ | 01:22 |
| batok | tiks seems like plone | 01:23 |
| batok | is sort of a cms¿ | 01:23 |
| projekt01 | the homepage perhaps is done with plone, but schooltool is a planing tool for schools | 01:24 |
| batok | are you member of one of these projects? | 01:26 |
| projekt01 | no, we only work on the tiks framework right now | 01:27 |
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| batok | I see | 01:29 |
| batok | I'm reading your draft on pagelets | 01:29 |
| projekt01 | Where? | 01:30 |
| projekt01 | Pagelets are gone now, viewlets are the new style to implement this part | 01:31 |
| batok | ok | 01:32 |
| batok | viewlet is also a product from qarcom.com . Have you ever heard of? | 01:33 |
| projekt01 | But I'm not sure right now if pagelets will come back in another form later. I really miss the macro part of pagelets for ZPT layout work | 01:33 |
| batok | qarbom.com | 01:33 |
| batok | qarbon.com | 01:33 |
| batok | it's a tool to create demos based on java and flash | 01:34 |
| projekt01 | Ah, I see | 01:34 |
| projekt01 | The name viewlet is driven from zope views | 01:35 |
| batok | hope you don't have problems with th e name | 01:35 |
| projekt01 | They are really zope3 views where can be used inside a view | 01:35 |
| batok | ok | 01:35 |
| projekt01 | They are really zope3 views where can be used inside a view/template | 01:36 |
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| gdsgdsgvdd | I am having some problem checking out zwiki .. can someone help | 05:10 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | using the zope repository at svn.zope.org/zope3 | 05:11 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | i have a svn client installed, but when i give the link to checkout, if returns me an error "file not found" | 05:11 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | although i can see the files by going to the same link using IE | 05:12 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | can someone give me any idea.....what am i doing wrong | 05:12 |
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| gdsgdsgvdd | can someone help me please with checking out zwiki from zope3 repository | 05:15 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | hellooo, can someone help | 05:16 |
| batok | gdsgdsgvdd | 05:24 |
| srichter | svn co svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Zope3/trunk/src/zwiki zwiki | 05:24 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | yes i tried this link into the svn client, but ti gave me error | 05:26 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | it says.. url does not exist | 05:27 |
| batok | is this the first time you co Zope3? | 05:28 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | yes | 05:28 |
| batok | can you copy and paste the command line here? | 05:28 |
| srichter | the command above works | 05:29 |
| batok | maybe your dns resolver doesn't work | 05:29 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | i am using a client .. it's not a command line | 05:29 |
| batok | what you mean by client... tortoise svn or something? | 05:30 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | tortoisesvn client | 05:30 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | something wrong with using the client | 05:31 |
| batok | try http://svn.zope.org in the browser | 05:32 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | ok | 05:33 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | the zope repository opened | 05:34 |
| batok | mmm | 05:34 |
| batok | are you typing in the tortoisesvn Zope3 with a capitol Z? | 05:35 |
| batok | uppercase | 05:35 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | i'll try that | 05:35 |
| batok | the url is case sensitive | 05:36 |
| batok | I've tried to install the psycopgda ( postgresql adapter for zope 3 ) in mac os x ( panther ) | 05:37 |
| batok | I got an error and I've found it | 05:37 |
| batok | I am using psycopg version 2.x | 05:37 |
| batok | and seems to not include some attributes and methods used by the adapter | 05:38 |
| batok | those methods and attrib are from psycopg version 1.x | 05:38 |
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| gdsgdsgvdd | I am having problem checking out third party package--zwiki for zope X3 using t0rtoise SVN client | 08:19 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | I have used "http://svn.zope.org/Zope3/trunk/src/zwiki" link for checking out the zwiki package | 08:21 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | but the svn client gave error "Error: PROPFIND request failed on '/Zope3/trunk/src/zwiki' | 08:23 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | can someone help me resolve this... please | 08:23 |
| d2m | gdsgdsgvdd: in your tourtoise svn client enter: 'svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Zope3/trunk/src/zwiki' | 08:24 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | ok... | 08:24 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | thanks... that worked.. | 08:25 |
| d2m | its easy to get the path right when you use the 'repo browser' | 08:26 |
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| gdsgdsgvdd | hey, d2m | 09:32 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | I am trying to install the zwiki package | 09:33 |
| d2m | does not work ? | 09:33 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | no | 09:33 |
| d2m | which zope ? | 09:33 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | zope X3 | 09:33 |
| d2m | for X3 you need another zwiki (not the one from SVN) | 09:34 |
| d2m | i'll get you an URL | 09:34 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | ok | 09:34 |
| d2m | this one should do it: http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope3-Packages/zwiki | 09:35 |
| d2m | quick question: why don't you use zope3.1c3 ? ( http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/Zope310c3 ) | 09:36 |
| d2m | you can add the svn checkout to that version | 09:36 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | you mean zope X3 3.0.1 | 09:38 |
| d2m | no, i mean http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope3/3.1.0c3 | 09:38 |
| d2m | the zope3.1.0 release is almost ready for release | 09:39 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | but will this be stable... | 09:39 |
| d2m | 3.1 will be stable, sure | 09:39 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | what difference does it make to use 3.0 or 3.1... is there some addition in 3.1 | 09:41 |
| d2m | changes are detailed here: http://www.zope.org/DevHome/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/Zope310c3 | 09:41 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | should i extract the Zwiki-3.0.0 to a zwiki folder at zopeinstance\lib\python\zwiki | 09:52 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | hey d2m... r u there | 09:54 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | should i extract the Zwiki-3.0.0 to a zwiki folder at zopeinstance\lib\python\zwiki | 09:55 |
| d2m | gdsgdsgvdd: installation instructions are here http://www.zope.org/DevHome/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/AddonPackageInstall | 09:56 |
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| gdsgdsgvdd | i had a question d2m | 10:17 |
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| gdsgdsgvdd | http://svn.zope.org/Zope3/trunk/src/zwiki/ is the link for the zwiki repository for zope 3, but when i try to checkout from here, my svn client gave error "repository not found" | 10:18 |
| d2m | gdsgdsgvdd: didn't we solve that problem already ? | 10:19 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | yes , we did, but that zwiki checkout was not compatible with zope 3 | 10:20 |
| mexiKON | gdsgdsgvdd, you need to check it out from svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/... i think | 10:20 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | but , you said that this for zope 3 use the tar file | 10:21 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | is this not right | 10:21 |
| d2m | gdsgdsgvdd: for zopeX3-3.0.0 you will need the fiole from zope-packages | 10:21 |
| d2m | i don't see the problem, sorry | 10:22 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | the tar file, isint it | 10:23 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | wiki-3.0.0 | 10:23 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | sorry-- i mean -- zwiki-3.0.0 | 10:23 |
| d2m | so, what is the problem now ? | 10:25 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | so, i need to install the tar file and then add the zwiki svn to it | 10:26 |
| d2m | no, why do you think so ? | 10:27 |
| d2m | you install zwiki-3.0.0 and thats it | 10:27 |
| d2m | there was no other zwiki package released for zopeX3 since, if you need the current one: install zope3 from svn or install the 3.1c3 release and add the zwiki svn checkout to zope/src/zwiki or instancehome/lib/python/zwiki | 10:30 |
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| Theuni | Jim7J1AJH: you there? | 15:30 |
| Theuni | or J1m | 15:30 |
| philiKON | Theuni, J1m's spritning at the castle; he might not be at his machine right now | 15:31 |
| philiKON | Theuni, how's the blob sprint going? | 15:31 |
| Theuni | well ... | 15:31 |
| Theuni | we're merging stuff to zodb trunk | 15:31 |
| Theuni | and fixing checkpoints | 15:31 |
| Theuni | unfortunately zodb head doesn't work with zope 2 head right now | 15:32 |
| Theuni | *brr | 15:32 |
| philiKON | :( | 15:32 |
| philiKON | use zope 3 trunk | 15:32 |
| Theuni | hmmm. | 15:32 |
| Theuni | is there something in zope3 that works similar to the filestreamiterator? | 15:57 |
| Theuni | (in zope2) | 15:58 |
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| projekt01 | srichter, ayt? | 16:11 |
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| philiKON | Theuni, no, but you could port it :) | 16:37 |
| philiKON | Theuni, it could probably make use of WSGI's cool "streaming" (iterative writing) feature | 16:38 |
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| Theuni | hm. looks like zope3 can't stream the response outside of the worker thread properly ... at least i don't see how | 16:59 |
| philiKON | the idea is to use iterables as defined in the WSGI spec. probably neither zope.publisher nor zope.server can deal with that yet, though | 17:02 |
| projekt01 | philiKON, do know if someone plans to implement portlets? | 17:03 |
| Theuni | looks like it | 17:03 |
| Theuni | so a) zope 3 can't handle iterables and b) zope 2 doesn't run with the current zodb | 17:03 |
| Theuni | great | 17:03 |
| philiKON | projekt01, whatever portlets are... | 17:05 |
| philiKON | Theuni, so, what's the problem with zope 2 and zodb trunk? | 17:05 |
| projekt01 | philiKON, ;-) | 17:09 |
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| Theuni | philiKON: zodb mounts are broken | 17:14 |
| Theuni | trying to fix them | 17:14 |
| philiKON | ah, right. the zodb trunk (finally!) has a way of providing multiple databases without monkey patching the zodb | 17:15 |
| philiKON | i bet some of the weirdnesses in zope 2 moutn support can go away with this | 17:15 |
| Theuni | yeah | 17:16 |
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| srichter | Theuni: the Zope 3 trunk can properly stream | 18:39 |
| srichter | simply return a strem from your published mehtod | 18:40 |
| srichter | or even better return an IResult object | 18:40 |
| Theuni | hmm | 18:50 |
| Theuni | i tried that | 18:50 |
| Theuni | it did some "".join(...) on that | 18:50 |
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| projekt01 | srichter, ayt? | 18:55 |
| projekt01 | srichter, I checked your SchoolTool viewlet implementation, looks interesting | 18:56 |
| projekt01 | srichter, do you have any idea how portlets should look like? | 18:59 |
| projekt01 | srichter, I like to do some prototype for the Neckar sprint. | 18:59 |
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| FrankBerger | hello everyone, just one more question, does zope3 provide an container which supports something like: self.objectIds('MyObjType') from Zope2? | 19:50 |
| efge | FrankBerger: not to my knowledge, you have to filter yourself | 20:01 |
| FrankBerger | ok, no problem | 20:01 |
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| philiKON | FrankBerger, like efge says, you have to filter yourself. if you want some sort of generic filtering, you could abstract this into an adapter, for example. | 20:35 |
| philiKON | FrankBerger, also, in zope 3 you would really filter by interfaces, not by meta_types (since those don't exist in zope 3) | 20:36 |
| philiKON | FrankBerger, if you're looking for an example, see the zope.app.tree.filters module | 20:36 |
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| FrankBerger | philiKON, ok I will try that, btw tnx for your cool book :-) | 21:33 |
| philiKON | FrankBerger, i'm glad you like it | 21:48 |
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