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| gdsgdsgvdd | i am working on an event registration website, and had a question...if someone could provide any clue. | 00:51 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | a new user registers and logs in | 00:52 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | after that fills an event registration form and submits it and logs out | 00:52 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | when the user logs in again... He can see his registration info.. | 00:53 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | as all the users will have same rols and permissions, how can i restrick a user from not seeing any other users registration info. | 00:54 |
| srichter | projekt01: yep | 00:54 |
| srichter | gdsgdsgvdd: set a local role for the user | 00:54 |
| projekt01 | srichter, Gary posted a interesting mail | 00:55 |
| srichter | this can be done by hand using the grant.html view, but can be done programmatically as well | 00:55 |
| projekt01 | srichter, did you read it? | 00:55 |
| srichter | projekt01: I have not read it in detail yet | 00:55 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | u mean.. any user who logs in will have local role | 00:56 |
| srichter | projekt01: though I disagree that all this AJAX and moving stuff is low-level | 00:56 |
| projekt01 | I'll post a answer to the question why we use two packages. | 00:56 |
| srichter | it is far above the level of content providers and even viewlets | 00:56 |
| srichter | ok | 00:56 |
| projekt01 | I'll take a look at the rest on monday | 00:56 |
| srichter | ok | 00:57 |
| srichter | gdsgdsgvdd: you basically have to say for event X user Y has permission Z (most likely zope.ManageContent) | 00:59 |
| projekt01 | srichter, another use case for content provider, viewlet and portlets are my different template languages where I use. | 01:00 |
| projekt01 | We have to make sure that another template language then TAL can be used for each implementation. | 01:01 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | i can see the grant.html...I tried to set the roles, but when i bounced zope and opened the grant.html..it never showed me the changes i had made... | 01:02 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | is it persistent | 01:03 |
| srichter | projekt01: well, we cannot have magical support for an imaginary templating language; I think what we have is good and flexible | 01:03 |
| srichter | gdsgdsgvdd: yes, the security settings are persistent | 01:03 |
| srichter | gdsgdsgvdd: you should check out the SchoolTool project, it messes with local permissions all over the place | 01:04 |
| projekt01 | srichter, Yes, of course, it only means we have to separate the logic out of the templates for the portlets. | 01:04 |
| projekt01 | srichter, btw, it's not imaginary I just haven't had the time to show it to you at the sprint ;-) | 01:05 |
| srichter | yeah, of course | 01:05 |
| newpers | are there any sprints in the us? | 01:05 |
| newpers | out of curiousity | 01:05 |
| srichter | there was a Zope Corp sprint before labor day weekend | 01:06 |
| srichter | currently no sprints are planned | 01:07 |
| newpers | thanks | 01:07 |
| * projekt01 perhaps we should hold a boston skin implementation sprint at boston next week ;-) | 01:08 | |
| srichter | be my guest! :-) | 01:08 |
| srichter | my home office holds about 4 people :-) | 01:08 |
| projekt01 | ;-) | 01:08 |
| newpers | where do you live, projekt01? | 01:09 |
| projekt01 | argh, if I had more time... | 01:09 |
| projekt01 | switzerland | 01:09 |
| newpers | :) | 01:09 |
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| projekt01 | newpers, and you | 01:09 |
| newpers | phoenix, az | 01:09 |
| srichter | we should have a sprint there in the middle of winter | 01:11 |
| srichter | to get warmed up :-) | 01:11 |
| newpers | heh. the weather would be nice for sure | 01:12 |
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| zbir | Any Zopers in the mood next weekend: http://amish.urbanape.com/ | 02:53 |
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| benji_york | way to leave a statement open to interpretation, Zac | 02:54 |
| zbir | heh. I noticed you still didn't RSVP ;) | 03:03 |
| benji_york | oh, yeah I almost forgot, unfortunately we already had something planned | 03:05 |
| benji_york | I think I already told you that though | 03:06 |
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| benji_york | srichter, I really like the new introspector | 03:30 |
| tav | sidenote: how do the ZODB transactions interplay with the twisted reactor in the new twisted+z3 integration ? | 03:32 |
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| newpers | philiKON, on your site it should be "This tutorial started out as a series of blog posts." You have serious :) | 06:45 |
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| gdsgdsgvdd | a quick question.... Can two different roles have overlaping permissions | 07:48 |
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| gdsgdsgvdd | example- If Role-a has permission Add and View, can Role-b have permission View | 07:53 |
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| gdsgdsgvdd | i have designed a skin and tring to implement the login/logout link (similar to the one available with the rotterdam skin) | 10:58 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | what would be the right approch for this problem | 10:59 |
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| srichter | philiKON: what is the option in wget to convert links to local relative links? | 15:04 |
| philiKON | -k | 15:05 |
| srichter | darn, it did not work | 15:06 |
| srichter | philiKON: could it be that the option sometimes does not work? | 15:12 |
| srichter | do I need to specify the base-href maybe? | 15:12 |
| dobee | srichter: we had the sam problem with sucking contents from zope, at our university website | 15:13 |
| philiKON | dunno | 15:13 |
| srichter | I guess I could write my own python script | 15:13 |
| dobee | i ended up replacing the absolute_urls with perl | 15:13 |
| srichter | yeah, in Python this would be sufficient: file.read().replace(URL, dir) | 15:14 |
| srichter | dobee: I guess that;s what specifying the script is for? | 15:14 |
| dobee | the reason why i used perl was that you can replace with perl -e ... | 15:15 |
| srichter | do you still have the script? | 15:15 |
| dobee | one moment | 15:15 |
| philiKON | find . -exec perl -i -p -e 's/foo/bar/g;' {} \; | 15:16 |
| srichter | can you give me this example with URL=http://localhost:8008/++apidoc++/ dir=/Zope3/apidoc ? :-) | 15:17 |
| dobee | yeah that's what i used | 15:17 |
| srichter | (I know zero perl and dunno what needs to be escaped | 15:17 |
| srichter | I guess I have to escape / and +, rght? | 15:19 |
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| dobee | sorry i can't remember but i guess too, i can't find the script, musst be somewhere on a webserver at our university, | 15:21 |
| srichter | ok | 15:22 |
| tav | lads, re: zope/twisted integration ... is it working now? (i assumed so due to merge into trunk). however, i'm running into problems wrt the server hanging in request.processInputs() when certain POSTs occur. | 15:23 |
| tav | any ideas as to what i might be doing wrong ? | 15:23 |
| srichter | we had no such reports yet | 15:23 |
| srichter | please send a mail to the list, so Michael can have a look | 15:24 |
| srichter | the best would be a functional test of course | 15:24 |
| tav | ah | 15:25 |
| tav | btw, is there any documentation on the integration beside the readme.txt in zope/app/twisted ? | 15:26 |
| srichter | well what ytpe of documentation do you want? | 15:26 |
| tav | well, i'm getting rather confused at the various extremities of abstraction -- at best, would be nice to have some kind of overview of how it all fits together ... | 15:27 |
| srichter | the same was true for the zserver stuff though | 15:31 |
| srichter | for me documenting this code is a low priority, because almost noone is going ever to work with it | 15:31 |
| srichter | other than creating new server types | 15:32 |
| philiKON | that should make documenting it high priority | 15:32 |
| philiKON | because even you will forget how it works | 15:32 |
| philiKON | and it will bitrod | 15:32 |
| philiKON | and it will bitrot | 15:32 |
| philiKON | and just because the zserver code wasn't documented doesn't mean we shoudl make the same mistake again... | 15:32 |
| srichter | then do it | 15:34 |
| srichter | I said it was no a high priority for *me* | 15:34 |
| philiKON | you wrote the stuff :) | 15:34 |
| srichter | and I provided tests that Michael partially at least converted to a README.txt | 15:35 |
| SteveA_ | just as data-point, i've done quite a lot with zserver and zserver-zope3 integration | 15:38 |
| srichter | documenting this stuff is non -trivial, since setting up non-brittle and sensible tests is very hard and they will be very slow to run | 15:38 |
| srichter | SteveA_: we will have zserver around for a while; in fact existing isntances will still run with it | 15:38 |
| SteveA_ | i'd much rather move to twisted | 15:39 |
| SteveA_ | there's all sorts of cruft dealing with asyncore | 15:39 |
| SteveA_ | and there's too much abstraction going on in zserver code | 15:39 |
| SteveA_ | much of which isn't used or tested | 15:39 |
| SteveA_ | and thus doesn't actually work | 15:39 |
| srichter | ok, so the switch is easy too :-) | 15:40 |
| SteveA_ | that's good to hear | 15:40 |
| srichter | isntead of zope.app.zserver point to zope.app.twsited | 15:41 |
| srichter | the API on that level is at least very similar if not exactely the same | 15:41 |
| SteveA_ | there's some high-availability stuff the launchpad infrastructure team has done on the zserver-zope integration | 15:41 |
| SteveA_ | that is horribly ugly, but should be more tasteful with twisted | 15:41 |
| SteveA_ | that would be worth putting into zope3 | 15:42 |
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| srichter | SteveA: this would be very cool | 15:43 |
| srichter | SteveA: If you do not have a lot of time, you could always put it in a branch for us to look at | 15:44 |
| srichter | btw, I agree that zserver was bugyg; it was written in the pre-testing age | 15:44 |
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| klaus | By compiling ZopeX3 (3.0.0) with gcc 4 (Mac OS 10.4.2) the make command failed until i changed the declaration at line 73 of the file Dependecies/zope.interface-ZopeX3-3.0.0/zope.interface/_zope_interface_coptimizations.c from "extern" to "static". Now it works and i hope it will give no side effects. Where is the best place to report things like this? | 16:56 |
| philiKON | it *fails*? | 17:29 |
| philiKON | i thought it would only issue a warning... | 17:29 |
| philiKON | klaus, this has already been reported, but the X3 3.0 branch isn't maintained too actively anymore, unfortunately | 17:30 |
| philiKON | i took some initiative once to backport some bugfixes (like this one, possibly), but i'd need help and everyone's busy rolling out new releases | 17:31 |
| klaus | yes, it fails: $ make | 17:34 |
| klaus | oops, its my first time using Irssix ... (and the first time I´m doing IRC))) | 17:35 |
| philiKON | oh, wait, you're using zope x3 3.0.0? | 17:36 |
| philiKON | use x3 3.0. | 17:36 |
| philiKON | use x3 3.0.1 | 17:36 |
| philiKON | that should work | 17:36 |
| philiKON | *this* particular bugfix i remember now having put in | 17:37 |
| klaus | 3.0.1 was not available at the time I compiled 3.0.0 | 17:39 |
| philiKON | that must have been a while ago... | 17:39 |
| philiKON | anyways, use 3.0.1 | 17:39 |
| klaus | I will try to compile 3.1.0 final in the next days | 17:39 |
| philiKON | or, even better, 3.1.0 | 17:39 |
| philiKON | it's not like it needs ages | 17:40 |
| philiKON | takes you 5 minutes | 17:40 |
| klaus | yes, but I need the 5 minute-slot )) | 17:40 |
| philiKON | ok :) | 17:40 |
| philiKON | well, i'm going to bed | 17:40 |
| philiKON | g'night everyone | 17:40 |
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