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| baiju | I think "svnadmin recover" should run | 06:01 |
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| projekt01 | hi | 11:18 |
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| andres | Is it known, that the zope svn doesnt work at the moment? | 12:21 |
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| tlotze | A zope.schema question: Do I understand correctly that with tokenized vocabularies, the token is what is displayed by the UI in the end? | 12:26 |
| tlotze | If so, why does it have to be str instead of unicode? | 12:26 |
| andres | Afaik the token is, what is used to identify a item. | 12:28 |
| andres | So, not whats displayed. | 12:28 |
| tlotze | What is displayed then? | 12:28 |
| andres | The title? | 12:29 |
| andres | At least if you implement ITitleTokenizedTerm | 12:29 |
| tlotze | Only for ITitledTokenizedTerms... | 12:29 |
| andres | arg i mean i TitledTokenizedTerm | 12:30 |
| andres | Token is used eg in the <option> fields of an <select> as an unique, and prefereable short, identifier. | 12:31 |
| tlotze | Ah, then it is unfortunate that the SimpleVocabulary.fromItems has no provision for specifying titles. | 12:32 |
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| andres | tlotze, no idea, never used that. | 12:37 |
| andres | tlotze, i discovered that there is Simplevocabulary after i implemented my own vocabulary. | 12:37 |
| tlotze | hehe. Thanks anyway. | 12:38 |
| andres | And i cant use the simple anyway as i know now, so its good... | 12:38 |
| andres | tlotze, if you define title simple term also provides ititledtokenizedterm. | 12:39 |
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| andres | if i read the code correctly. | 12:39 |
| andres | you just have to provide it. | 12:40 |
| tlotze | which fromItems can't do... | 12:41 |
| tlotze | so I'd have to create the terms directly, which is of course not a problem. | 12:42 |
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| andres | tlotze, or subclass simplevocab and override fromitems | 12:49 |
| tlotze | True, that would be cleaner | 12:55 |
| tlotze | SimpleVocab itself might acquire a new method, fromTitledItems. | 12:57 |
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| JoaoJoao | good morning | 14:33 |
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| JoaoJoao | Is there news on the zope3.org website? | 14:35 |
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| JoaoJoao | How do I deal with object relationships in Z3? (e.g. Product X belongs to the categories A,B and C) | 15:09 |
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| J1m | srichter, ayt? | 17:48 |
| J1m | Has anyone worked out any way to test application i18n? | 17:49 |
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| srichter | I think the new language namespace makes it possible | 17:54 |
| J1m | How so? | 17:54 |
| srichter | J1m: is that the answer you are looking for? :-) | 17:54 |
| J1m | no | 17:55 |
| J1m | :) | 17:55 |
| srichter | because you can manually send in a language and ensure the right translation is chosen | 17:55 |
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| srichter | I guess you have to be more specific | 17:55 |
| J1m | I want to test i18n, not l10n. | 17:55 |
| J1m | So, I want to make sure that something gets translated, but I don't want to depend on a translation. | 17:56 |
| srichter | no, there is no such thing yet | 17:56 |
| J1m | I'm thinking is something like a "test" language that just performs some silly transformation on the text. | 17:56 |
| srichter | that's what the TAL unit tests do | 17:57 |
| J1m | So, maybe a translation of "Add" in domain foo --? (foo)Bee | 17:57 |
| srichter | they capitalize everything | 17:57 |
| srichter | I see | 17:57 |
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| srichter | do you want to do this in unit or functional tests? | 17:58 |
| J1m | I think it would be nice if this was standard infrustructure. | 17:58 |
| J1m | functional | 17:58 |
| J1m | or unit, not sure | 17:58 |
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| J1m | I suppose a unit test would be fine. | 17:58 |
| J1m | I haven't had much time to think about it. | 17:59 |
| J1m | yutakashino, retsu, and I just found a bug in formlib's i18n. We want to fix it and we'll need to test it. | 18:00 |
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| J1m | ok, well I was just wondering if this is a solved problem. | 18:00 |
| srichter | no, only very locally in TAL | 18:01 |
| srichter | using the dummy engine | 18:01 |
| srichter | J1m: btw, are you in JP? | 18:01 |
| J1m | I think we need a good way to do this to encourage people to test their i18n. | 18:01 |
| J1m | no, f12g. | 18:01 |
| J1m | They are here. :) | 18:01 |
| srichter | I see :-) | 18:01 |
| srichter | I agree, best would be to test it in functional tests so we can have coverage reports | 18:02 |
| srichter | I think with a custom language and the language namespace that would be possible | 18:02 |
| J1m | yup | 18:03 |
| J1m | We'll brainstorm it here. | 18:03 |
| J1m | Jacob Holm also suggested a null translation to make sure that things weren't missed. | 18:04 |
| J1m | The idea was that you could translate to null. If the resulting page had any "text", then you missed something. | 18:05 |
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| J1m | of course, that doesn't work if there's any content on the page. | 18:06 |
| J1m | so I'm not sure how that would work. | 18:06 |
| J1m | Dang. | 18:06 |
| srichter | right | 18:06 |
| srichter | ok anyways, I ahve a lot of TA work, so I have to get back to it | 18:07 |
| J1m | Of course, if we marked all the text that shouldn't be translated ... ;) | 18:07 |
| J1m | k | 18:07 |
| J1m | later | 18:07 |
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| J1m | Waaaaa | 21:32 |
| J1m | srichter, Waaaaa | 21:32 |
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| srichter | J1m: I am back | 22:29 |
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| mgedmin | I've just watched http://blog.ianbicking.org/ajaxy-exception-catching.html | 22:40 |
| mgedmin | I wonder if you can combine that wsgi filter with zope 3 | 22:40 |
| mgedmin | z3 supports wsgi, right? | 22:41 |
| srichter | yep | 22:43 |
| srichter | I am pretty sure you could easily do that | 22:43 |
| benji | mgedmin, I saw that too, quite interesting (on a couple of different levels) | 22:44 |
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