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| J1m | srichter, ayt? | 01:31 |
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| WebMaven | J1m: You've been asking that all day. | 01:32 |
| J1m | :) | 01:33 |
| WebMaven | You're coming to PyCon, right? | 01:33 |
| J1m | I wasn't planning to. | 01:33 |
| WebMaven | Aw. | 01:33 |
| J1m | But I'm reconsidering. | 01:33 |
| WebMaven | yay! | 01:33 |
| J1m | As there seems to be some sprint interest. | 01:33 |
| WebMaven | Remember, this year we got the 4-consecutive-post-conference-ly sprint days. | 01:34 |
| WebMaven | And have you seen Nathan Yergler's talk summary? | 01:36 |
| WebMaven | 'Abusing the Zope 3 project' | 01:36 |
| WebMaven | #48 on this page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyCon2006/Talks | 01:37 |
| J1m | yup, although I haven't looked closely. | 01:39 |
| J1m | I didn't do any reviews this year. | 01:40 |
| J1m | efge, if you update, you should find the fd leakage fixed. | 01:40 |
| efge | efge: ok trying now | 01:42 |
| Theuni | good news: i wrote a log observer on debug level that routes all twisted error messages into the event log | 01:43 |
| WebMaven | J1m: So, what is there most interest for doing a sprint on? | 01:47 |
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| efge | J1m: ok no more fd problems, yay! | 01:49 |
| J1m | Theuni, wants to work on changes to z3 to support certification. | 01:49 |
| efge | J1m: have you looked at http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope3-dev/501 or not ? (-N 2 problems) | 01:49 |
| J1m | Also, there seemed to be some interest in replacing more z2 infrastructure with z3 infrastructure. | 01:50 |
| J1m | efge, no, that's a widespread problem. | 01:51 |
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| J1m | We don't regularly run tests in loops and so we don't catch when tests fail to clean up after themselves. | 01:51 |
| Theuni | Right. I'll be around pycon for work on certification and blobs ... | 01:51 |
| efge | J1m: ok. I'll close bug 500 then (fds) | 01:51 |
| J1m | This is related to tests that depend on other tests running first. | 01:51 |
| J1m | cool, thanks. | 01:51 |
| Theuni | Looks like the effort today was good. Only 4 critical issues left. | 01:58 |
| Theuni | and we might discuss those away too :) | 01:59 |
| * Theuni goes off to bad | 01:59 | |
| Theuni | aeh ... bed | 01:59 |
| J1m | 430 is already fixed. | 02:00 |
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| Theuni | great | 02:00 |
| J1m | We probably just need to update to the current zdaemon. | 02:00 |
| Theuni | hmm | 02:01 |
| Theuni | i see | 02:01 |
| J1m | later | 02:01 |
| Theuni | exactly | 02:01 |
| J1m | Thanks for all the help. | 02:01 |
| Theuni | some 18 hours are calling for sleep :) | 02:01 |
| Theuni | i enjoyed it | 02:01 |
| Theuni | it was good to do some work on zope 3 again | 02:01 |
| J1m | yup | 02:01 |
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| Theuni | everybody here is on a zope3 project right now, except me ... | 02:02 |
| Theuni | anyway | 02:02 |
| Theuni | *nchrr | 02:02 |
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| newpers | srichter: if i wanted to checkout step02 of your messageboard, it would be svn checkout http://svn.zope.org/book/trunk/messageboard/step02/, right? if so, i believe the checkout links are broken | 02:51 |
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| JoaoJoao | hello | 03:02 |
| andres | newpers, no, its not. | 03:09 |
| andres | That should be correct svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/book/trunk/messageboard/step02 | 03:10 |
| JoaoJoao | hum it seems that sqlos doesn't accept non-ascii characters, I hope I'm wrong | 03:10 |
| andres | JoaoJoao, when doing what? | 03:10 |
| newpers | i guess the http protocol is being use for viewing :) | 03:10 |
| JoaoJoao | inserting a new object | 03:10 |
| andres | newpers, sorry, i fear it was a wrong gues ;-) | 03:10 |
| andres | Where do you use the non ascii char? | 03:11 |
| andres | In a column? | 03:11 |
| JoaoJoao | yup | 03:11 |
| andres | Is it s StringCol? | 03:11 |
| andres | -s | 03:11 |
| JoaoJoao | yes, do I have to use something else? | 03:11 |
| newpers | thanks, andres | 03:11 |
| andres | JoaoJoao, UnicodeCol | 03:11 |
| JoaoJoao | aaaaaaaaaah | 03:11 |
| JoaoJoao | I've always seen StringCol in every example, thanks a lot :) | 03:11 |
| andres | JoaoJoao, but only from 0.7rc1 on. | 03:12 |
| andres | JoaoJoao, remind be later tomorrow and i will change that. | 03:12 |
| andres | JoaoJoao, there should UnicodeCol be used. | 03:13 |
| JoaoJoao | ok | 03:13 |
| JoaoJoao | it worked now | 03:13 |
| andres | but back on the time those got wrote, there wasnt a unicode col | 03:13 |
| JoaoJoao | When I use ForeignKey, what kind of field must I use in the interface? | 03:15 |
| andres | JoaoJoao, depends how you do it. | 03:21 |
| andres | if you do foobarID = Int(title = "this is the foobar id") | 03:23 |
| andres | and foobarID = IntCol(foreignKey = "Foobar") | 03:24 |
| andres | you have a variable foobar which directs to the Foobar object | 03:25 |
| andres | But this isnt optimal, as then "foobar" is not in the interface, which generates problems with security. | 03:25 |
| andres | JoaoJoao, you dont have to define everything in the interface. | 03:26 |
| andres | It works fine if you just define it in the implementation. | 03:26 |
| JoaoJoao | I'd *love* to have a combo box widget in the forms | 03:28 |
| andres | combobox? | 03:28 |
| JoaoJoao | A combobox which would let me choose what Questionnaire the Question relates to | 03:29 |
| JoaoJoao | I guess I'd need to create a custom vocabulary | 03:30 |
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| andres | JoaoJoao, what was the last i said to you? | 03:40 |
| JoaoJoao | <configure | 03:41 |
| JoaoJoao | xmlns='http://namespaces.zope.org/zope' | 03:41 |
| JoaoJoao | xmlns:browser='http://namespaces.zope.org/browser' | 03:41 |
| JoaoJoao | xmlns:rdb='http://namespaces.zope.org/rdb' | 03:41 |
| JoaoJoao | xmlns:sqlos='http://namespaces.sqlobject.org/sqlos'> | 03:41 |
| JoaoJoao | <sqlos:connectionName name='pgsql' /> | 03:41 |
| JoaoJoao | <!-- Here you configure the dsn for a given connection --> | 03:41 |
| JoaoJoao | <rdb:provideConnection | 03:41 |
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| JoaoJoao_ | damn I hate Kvirc | 03:42 |
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| JoaoJoao | /nickserv identify jmcjmc | 03:43 |
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| JoaoJoao | okay I hate Kvirc *and* Kopete's IRC | 03:46 |
| JoaoJoao | sorry about the flood, KVirc copy'n paste is terrible | 03:46 |
| JoaoJoao | andres: THe last thing you said was "combobox?" | 03:47 |
| andres | <andres> Ah, you mean Choice/SelectWidget(or DropdownWidget)? | 03:47 |
| andres | <andres> JoaoJoao, i use that extensively. | 03:47 |
| andres | <andres> I do it the following way: foobar = Choice(title=u"", vocabulary="MyFoobarVocab") and foobarID = IntCol(foreignKey = "Foobar") | 03:47 |
| andres | <andres> Is it that what you mean? | 03:47 |
| andres | What have you asked regarding this zcml snippet? | 03:47 |
| JoaoJoao | andres: Then I need to create a custom vocab MyFoobarVocab, right? | 03:49 |
| andres | Yes | 03:50 |
| andres | Just use the SimpleVocabulary | 03:50 |
| JoaoJoao | ahh got it | 03:51 |
| JoaoJoao | It would be nice if we could get rid of the Vocab creation somehow | 03:58 |
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| andres | JoaoJoao, how would you do that logicwise? | 04:02 |
| JoaoJoao | That's the problem ;) | 04:02 |
| JoaoJoao | maybe having a custom Choice field | 04:02 |
| andres | Hm? I dont understand how you are thinking about that. | 04:03 |
| andres | sorry for the bogus english. | 04:03 |
| andres | What do you mean by having a "custom Choice field" | 04:04 |
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| newpers | JoaoJoao: when you say combobox, do you mean a drop down menu (<select>)? | 04:04 |
| JoaoJoao | andres: precisely, sorry here in Brazil we use to call it "Combo" | 04:07 |
| JoaoJoao | I was looking at the SIP source | 04:08 |
| andres | JoaoJoao, but you just have to built one vocabulary and then its just 3 lines in zcml | 04:09 |
| andres | for generating a vocabulary | 04:09 |
| andres | for me. | 04:10 |
| JoaoJoao | andres: there a file in SIP "vocabularies.py" which has lots of definitions like these: http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/2295 | 04:11 |
| andres | JoaoJoao, and? | 04:13 |
| andres | Thats all it takes me to generate a vocabulary: <vocabulary name="ProbeTyp" | 04:15 |
| andres | factory="klinik.ItemVocabulary" | 04:15 |
| andres | container="ProbeTyp" /> | 04:15 |
| JoaoJoao | I thought about something like this: http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/2296 | 04:16 |
| andres | Shouldnt be too hard to implement. | 04:17 |
| andres | But this way you have to define that field multiple times. | 04:17 |
| andres | I can use my vocabularies from multiple places. | 04:18 |
| andres | with one definition | 04:18 |
| JoaoJoao | That's true | 04:19 |
| andres | And as i have filters in my vocabularies etc. that would be annoying. | 04:20 |
| JoaoJoao | andres: How long have you been developing Z3 apps for? | 04:21 |
| andres | JoaoJoao, not that long. | 04:22 |
| andres | 2 Months. But with some gaps. | 04:22 |
| JoaoJoao | And how's it going? | 04:23 |
| andres | JoaoJoao, i dont really like web part in developing web apps, so it annoys me at the moment, as i doing to much gui thingies. | 04:25 |
| andres | I want to present clean interfaces to someone and let him doing the html+ajax+whatever stuff. | 04:25 |
| andres | But sadly im alone ;-) | 04:25 |
| JoaoJoao | andres: Unfortunately it's not possible with the current webapp frameworks | 04:29 |
| andres | JoaoJoao, why not? | 04:29 |
| andres | I know some people who could do that and would like that, if they would get paid. | 04:30 |
| JoaoJoao | well it *is* possible, but as soon as you present a clean interface for someone to do the gui you'll realize you have to do something else :) | 04:31 |
| andres | JoaoJoao, hm, well, you can't really do that in seperated steps. | 04:33 |
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| Volpe | In the BTreePrincipalSource class in pluggableauth. How do you assosiate roles with the principals? | 08:22 |
| Volpe | oh... with the _setId()? you'd make that correspond to your ZCML role declarations? | 08:26 |
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| romanofski | moin | 10:13 |
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| projekt01 | srichter, ayt? | 13:02 |
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| projekt01 | The getLink method in testbrowser.Browser is buggy. This method will catch the first link if more then one link contains the given text attribute. | 13:13 |
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| d2m | projekt01: but mech_browser.find_link() returns a single link by default | 13:51 |
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| projekt01 | d2m, yes but not the right one. | 13:54 |
| d2m | projekt01: no, think it returns the first found | 13:55 |
| projekt01 | If you have links like <a href="">A File</a> and <a href="">File</a> and you use getLink('File') you will get the 'A File' link | 13:56 |
| projekt01 | I added already a collector issue: http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope3-dev/503 | 13:56 |
| d2m | projekt01: thats becaus of the regexes | 13:57 |
| d2m | projekt01: at least i think it is | 13:58 |
| projekt01 | d2m, yes, it's a wired idea to turn a text attribute into a regex. | 13:58 |
| d2m | projekt01: i see what you mean, you are right | 13:59 |
| d2m | projekt01: but its detailed in the interfaces | 14:00 |
| d2m | projekt01: i see another problem with the method: it implicit assumes that 'single' is not set in mechanize, if this changes, mechanize would return a list instead of a single link | 14:04 |
| d2m | projekt01: args should become: args = {'text_regex': text_regex, 'url_regex': url_regex, 'single': 1} or the like | 14:07 |
| projekt01 | d2m, can you add a comment to the issue 503? | 14:19 |
| d2m | projekt01: sorry, my fault -- its ok how it is done (the method is supposed to just return 1 link at all) | 14:20 |
| projekt01 | Ok | 14:20 |
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| Theuni | anybody alive? | 15:14 |
| projekt01 | Yup | 15:14 |
| Theuni | would you say that issue 381 might be closed? | 15:14 |
| * projekt01 is looking at issue 381 | 15:15 | |
| Theuni | it looks like alga was waiting for feedback whether his solution is sufficient but never got a reply | 15:15 |
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| projekt01 | Theuni, wasn't this happen a long time ago? | 15:17 |
| Theuni | march to july | 15:18 |
| projekt01 | I guess this is done if I understand it correct ;-) | 15:19 |
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| Theuni | Me too. I'll just close it and ask for re-opening if that's not the case. | 15:19 |
| projekt01 | the securitypolicy.zcml in the root points to the configure.zcml in zope.app.securitypolicy | 15:20 |
| projekt01 | This I think is what issue 381 means | 15:21 |
| Theuni | almost | 15:21 |
| Theuni | it was about people upgrading old installations who have to manually do that | 15:21 |
| Theuni | it was about giving them a chance to notice what is wrong | 15:21 |
| Theuni | and that happens | 15:21 |
| projekt01 | Yes, I remember that | 15:21 |
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| * Theuni closed it | 15:22 | |
| d2m | i asked before, but i try again: the zsync/fssync package does not work on trunk, is one of you using it ? | 15:31 |
| projekt01 | d2m, no | 15:32 |
| projekt01 | d2m, do you use it with your for exporting your own objects? | 15:32 |
| d2m | projekt01: i'd love to do so but its broken (i filed a bug report some month ago) | 15:33 |
| projekt01 | d2m, did you try it with a zope3 Folder or a File? | 15:33 |
| d2m | projekt01: http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope3-dev/480 -- BrowserResponse object did change | 15:34 |
| d2m | projekt01: interstingly all tests pass ok | 15:35 |
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| projekt01 | Ah, I see, seems that this part isn't tested | 15:36 |
| Theuni | d2m: i have no idea about fssync ... i'll try to have a look though | 15:39 |
| projekt01 | d2m, fdrake was the creator of fssync (I guess) | 15:39 |
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| Theuni | yeah | 15:42 |
| Theuni | the unit test uses StringIO as a fake response replacement | 15:43 |
| Theuni | that's not good enough i'm afraid | 15:43 |
| Theuni | shouldn't be too hard to fix | 15:46 |
| Theuni | i'll try | 15:46 |
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| Theuni | hmm. looks like the http response doesn't have a stream handle anymore ... :/ | 15:51 |
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| Theuni | well ... i wonder what the reason is to disallow any kind of streaming on the response | 16:03 |
| projekt01 | Theuni, security? Perhaps there could be a way via registering subscribers to manipulate the response??? | 16:05 |
| Theuni | hmm. that would be a huge drawback, because streaming is a big thing to disallow | 16:06 |
| projekt01 | I'm not sure at all, this was just a idea. | 16:08 |
| Theuni | i'll try to provide a fix, but i have the feeling a clean solution will need quite some time ... | 16:14 |
| projekt01 | Ok | 16:16 |
| Theuni | hmm. it doesn't break but i also don't know how it should wor | 16:18 |
| Theuni | k | 16:18 |
| Theuni | can i just checkout a root or should i use a certain object that supports syncing? | 16:18 |
| Theuni | ah ... got it | 16:20 |
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| projekt01 | Theuni, I have no idea, it's along time ago I tried fssync | 16:24 |
| Theuni | i got it | 16:25 |
| Theuni | unfortunately this is really a bad fix to make it work again | 16:25 |
| Theuni | i have no idea how streaming response consumption is intended to work :/ | 16:25 |
| Theuni | i think i'm not going to check that in | 16:28 |
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| * Theuni wonders about issue 341 | 16:39 | |
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| Theuni | are placeful event subscribers possible? | 20:35 |
| Theuni | hmm. catalogs might do that ... | 20:37 |
| Theuni | aha ... getallutilitiesregisteredfor ... | 20:38 |
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| JoaoJoao | hello | 22:51 |
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| benji | srichter, ayt? | 23:53 |
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