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| srichter | J1m: I'll cut the beta as usual | 00:23 | 
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| J1m | I'm getting close to being finished making the tar ball. | 00:24 | 
| srichter | ok, just shoot me an E-mail when you are done | 00:24 | 
| J1m | I've also created the release. | 00:24 | 
| J1m | (on zope.org) | 00:24 | 
| srichter | ok, so what's left to do? | 00:24 | 
| J1m | I'll let you know when I've updated the tar ball | 00:24 | 
| srichter | ok, so just the announcements are left? | 00:24 | 
| J1m | announcements | 00:24 | 
| srichter | ok | 00:24 | 
| J1m | I think so. | 00:24 | 
| srichter | time to eat dinner | 00:25 | 
| srichter | see ya | 00:25 | 
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| J1m | I'm hoping Tim will volunteer to make the windows release | 00:25 | 
| J1m | even though he's off today. | 00:25 | 
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| srichter | J1m: ok | 01:19 | 
| J1m | OK, the source release is up. | 01:33 | 
| jenner | oh, btw, stress tests passed, J1m made my day :) | 01:37 | 
| srichter | thanks | 01:37 | 
| J1m | Thanks! | 01:37 | 
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| J1m | I'm gonna try to make the windows release. :) | 01:46 | 
| srichter | hold on to your... computers :-) | 01:51 | 
| J1m | Can anyone here test the windows release for me? | 01:59 | 
| J1m | I built it on a buldbot machine and I really don't want to install it there. | 02:00 | 
| J1m | I'm afraid it would screw up the bots. | 02:00 | 
| jenner | J1m: I have a vmware guest (win2k3)... I'd need to install py2.4 beforehand | 02:01 | 
| J1m | If you're willing, that would be great! | 02:01 | 
| J1m | I'll go ahead and upload the file to zope.org. | 02:01 | 
| jenner | URL? | 02:03 | 
| J1m | You are too fast for me. | 02:04 | 
| J1m | Uploading now. | 02:04 | 
| J1m | http://www.zope.org/Members/jim/Zope-3.2.0b2.win32-py2.4.exe | 02:04 | 
| jenner | Hm, I've never ran zope on win32 :) | 02:05 | 
| J1m | See: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/ZopeWindowsRelease | 02:05 | 
| J1m | Pick up from where it says "run the installer". :) | 02:05 | 
| * jenner added zope.org to trusted sites and launched the .exe | 02:07 | |
| jenner | Uhm... I have no idea where it is now :) | 02:09 | 
| J1m | It's burried in your Python | 02:10 | 
| jenner | ah | 02:10 | 
| J1m | http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/ZopeWindowsRelease | 02:10 | 
| J1m | Pick up from where it says "run the installer". :) | 02:10 | 
| J1m | so the next step is to make an instance | 02:10 | 
| J1m | Don't worry about the test buddydemo step. | 02:11 | 
| J1m | But it would be nice to do the bin\test -vv --testzope | 02:12 | 
| J1m | bit from the instance. | 02:12 | 
| J1m | And to make sure that Zope starts and that you can use it. | 02:12 | 
| jenner | ok, running tests | 02:13 | 
| J1m | Cool | 02:13 | 
| * jenner wonders about control chars in windows paths... I mean what's \Z in \ZopeInst is supposed to be anyway? | 02:14 | |
| J1m | Windows uses \ rather than / as the path separator. :) | 02:15 | 
| jenner | I know :) | 02:16 | 
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| jenner | this takes ages | 02:20 | 
| J1m | Welcome to the zope tests. :) | 02:20 | 
| J1m | I hear they run even slower on windows. | 02:21 | 
| jenner | two AssertionErrors so far... I'd even be able to tell what test raised those exceptions, but unfortunately the scroll buffer of this so-called terminal window is too small...I can't scroll back anymore :) | 02:22 | 
| J1m | Dang | 02:22 | 
| J1m | Hopefully, they're in ZEO. If so, I'll ignore them. | 02:23 | 
| jenner | does `bin\test -vv --testzope` produce a summary? | 02:23 | 
| J1m | It will list the tests that failed at the end. | 02:23 | 
| J1m | yes | 02:23 | 
| jenner | lol | 02:23 | 
| jenner | who's responsible for ZODB and ZEO failures? :) | 02:24 | 
| J1m | Tim and I are. | 02:24 | 
| J1m | The thing is, ZEO tests tend to fail intermittently. | 02:24 | 
| J1m | They do all sort of weord things like starting and stopping servers. | 02:24 | 
| jenner | heh | 02:25 | 
| J1m | So they tend to have a lot of spurious failures. | 02:25 | 
| J1m | I had to write some tests like that for the twisted integration over the last week or so. | 02:25 | 
| J1m | Not fun. | 02:25 | 
| jenner | I hate functional tests | 02:27 | 
| J1m | Why? Because they take so long? | 02:27 | 
| jenner | You never know what kind of environement they're run in | 02:27 | 
| J1m | ah, you're talking about functional tests in general. | 02:28 | 
| J1m | Not Zope 3's. | 02:28 | 
| jenner | Yes | 02:28 | 
| J1m | Tres says that Zope 3's functional tests aren't technically functional tests. | 02:29 | 
| jenner | tests finished - 3 failures | 02:29 | 
| J1m | what were they? | 02:29 | 
| J1m | They should have been listed at the end. | 02:29 | 
| jenner | ZEO :) | 02:30 | 
| J1m | Yay! | 02:30 | 
| J1m | OK, so see if you can run zope. | 02:30 | 
| jenner | checkTimeoutAfterVote and checkTimeoutProvokingConflicts | 02:30 | 
| jenner | ok | 02:30 | 
| J1m | blah blah blah | 02:30 | 
| J1m | :) | 02:30 | 
| * J1m really needs to get back into using vmware. | 02:31 | |
| jenner | J1m: ok, it's running fine... anything else I should check? | 02:34 | 
| J1m | If you feel ambitious, you could shut it down and try running it as a service. | 02:34 | 
| J1m | But otherwise, that's good enough for me. | 02:35 | 
| J1m | I'm gonna go ahead and put it in place. | 02:35 | 
| jenner | `bin/zopeservice.py --startup auto install` doesn't work -- I get an ImportError for pywintypes | 02:37 | 
| J1m | hm | 02:37 | 
| J1m | OK, I didn't hear that. ;) | 02:37 | 
| jenner | (python2.4.2 install using the .msi from python.org) | 02:37 | 
| * jenner whistles | 02:38 | |
| J1m | I'll have to let Tim chase that. | 02:38 | 
| J1m | I think it's still worth going ahead with the release. | 02:38 | 
| J1m | Thanks a lot! | 02:38 | 
| jenner | Yeah, who uses zope3 in win32 anyway? I'd say -- release it and let those users swtich to a real OS :) | 02:39 | 
| jenner | J1m: np, glad I could help | 02:39 | 
| J1m | :) | 02:39 | 
| J1m | srichter, ayt? | 02:41 | 
| J1m | Night. | 02:43 | 
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| baiju | I tried to install Zope3.2.0b2, here is test output: http://zope3.pastebin.com/477440 | 11:20 | 
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| J1m | srichter, are you going to announce the beta? | 19:01 | 
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| srichter | J1m: tomorrow morning | 19:29 | 
| J1m | k | 19:30 | 
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| dman13 | a Christmas present! :-) | 20:08 | 
| J1m | Shhhh, don't tell the kids. | 20:08 | 
| * dman13 wants 3.2-final before the ball drops | 20:08 | |
| dman13 | don't worry, they'll think Santa left it | 20:08 | 
| jenner | sheesh, ZTUtils.Batch from zope2 is, uhm, a bit comlicated... I guess there's no way but to write an own simple batch helper. Unless there is already one, burried in the depths of src/zope/ - is there? | 20:27 | 
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| jenner | Aha! "The `ZTUtils` package has not been ported to Zope3. Parts of it, like batching, have found their way into Zope3, though." | 20:32 | 
| J1m | I agree that the mechanism in ZTUtils is too complicated. | 20:36 | 
| J1m | Note that we'll be releasing a table formatting package that has batching. | 20:37 | 
| J1m | We've releases a snapshot. | 20:37 | 
| J1m | http://svn.zope.org/Sandbox/zc/zc.table/ | 20:37 | 
| J1m | I'm not sure how up to date the snapshit is though. | 20:38 | 
| J1m | snapshot :) | 20:40 | 
| jenner | Well, all I need is batching over a flat sequence... and I'm pretty sure I did s.th. like gooooogles result paging some years ago for a customer, I just can't find the code anymore :) | 20:40 | 
| jenner | J1m: what a beautiful Freudian slip :) | 20:41 | 
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| jenner | Hm, is there a way to define an alias for a browser:page in zcml? E.g. I have a browser:page with name="index.html" and I'd like to have the same page registered as "view.html" | 22:25 | 
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