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| psii | Hello everyone. I have a problem: I want to implement my own AddingView for a container. This container is a special one, because the key in __setitem__ is ignored and object.name attribute is used instead (object is the obj that should be added). It's clear that I can't use the std AddingView, so I subclassed my own view. | 11:31 |
| psii | But: This view never gets called... | 11:31 |
| psii | in zcml i tried it with <browser:page> and <browser:addform>... | 11:31 |
| psii | I have created my own template, too. | 11:32 |
| psii | I don't understand it, why that happens, because i saw projects, doing exactly the same and there it works | 11:33 |
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| Theuni | I'm not sure, but don't you have to create an entry for the add menu as well? I'm not sure the addform does that on it's own. But I'm just guessing here. | 11:35 |
| psii | well, i have an add menu, too. that's not the problem. I also can access my page and see the widgets. but thats all. If I press the "Add" button, the page gets reloaded but nothing happened. I found out, that no method of my view got called only once. | 11:36 |
| psii | (i mean the add button on my template page, not the one in the menu) | 11:38 |
| psii | well, i could paste my view code and my configure.zcml somewhere... | 11:41 |
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| psii | http://rafb.net/paste/results/Qe0R8x12.html | 11:42 |
| psii | http://rafb.net/paste/results/agiZtI78.html | 11:44 |
| psii | my view and the configure.zcml | 11:44 |
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| psii | nobody an idea? :/ | 12:30 |
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| __mac__ | Hi, I have a container which has an attribute on it, when I call zapi.absoluteURL for this attribute I do not get container/++attribute++attrib_name | 13:50 |
| __mac__ | I get container/attrib_name. This gives me a TraversalError afterwards. | 13:50 |
| __mac__ | Is this a bug or intentional? | 13:51 |
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| __mac__ | hi srichter, do you have an idea why zapi.absoluteURL called on an attribute of an object does not give object/++attribute++attribute_name? | 15:03 |
| __mac__ | it returns object/attribute instead which is leads to an error in traversal when the URL is called. | 15:04 |
| srichter | __mac__: I am sctually surprised it works at all | 15:05 |
| Theuni | hah | 15:05 |
| srichter | __mac__: absoluteURL is really intended for Contained obejcts only | 15:06 |
| srichter | though you could make it a proposal, since this at least seems like a bug now | 15:06 |
| Theuni | well ... our objects have an __parent__, but we sticked them on the container by attribute, not in the container item list | 15:06 |
| Theuni | (or however you call that) | 15:06 |
| srichter | ah, ok; the traversal mechanism is not smart enough to figure this out | 15:08 |
| srichter | your attribute then must have the name: | 15:08 |
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| srichter | ++attribute++name | 15:08 |
| srichter | this is common practice | 15:08 |
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| srichter | often I expose an annotation as a namespace, so I give the annotation the name ++nsname++ | 15:09 |
| srichter | of course, SchoolTool uses a pluggable traverser that addresses the issue too by exposing arbitrary names to arbitrary objects without namespaces | 15:10 |
| Theuni | so you mean the object should have __name__="++attribute++xy", right? | 15:10 |
| srichter | yes | 15:10 |
| Theuni | i saw that the fallback traversal mechanism allows for attribute and index access | 15:10 |
| Theuni | but it is overriden by the default traverser for container/contained objects | 15:10 |
| srichter | ok, I did not know that | 15:11 |
| Theuni | i think ++attribute++ will be fine for now | 15:11 |
| Theuni | at leasts is an explicit way of talking to the machinery | 15:11 |
| srichter | yeah | 15:12 |
| psii | Theuni, I know why it didn't work for me :) the authors of the other project did a "<tal:defs define="dummy view/update" />" at the start of the template. no wondert update() gets called. | 15:16 |
| Theuni | ah! that's a good explanation. | 15:16 |
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| psii | the developers of zope3 should document it better... you have to search a very long time until you know who calls update() or why/when.. | 15:21 |
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| srichter | psii: feel free to contribute some documentation | 15:24 |
| psii | srichter, you mean as a diff? | 15:25 |
| srichter | that would be fine | 15:25 |
| srichter | you could also write a doctest, i.e a *.txt file that has working Python code | 15:26 |
| Theuni | apropos | 15:26 |
| Theuni | does anybody know why formlib doesn't respect the <page template=""/> attribute? | 15:26 |
| Theuni | i made a small change here locally so that __call__ reuses a template given by that attribute and it works. it makes it easier to reuse a formlib form with multiple pages | 15:27 |
| Theuni | and different templates | 15:27 |
| srichter | it sort of expects that you do your own template definition in the class | 15:27 |
| srichter | but I agree; this should be considered a bug, since people expect the template attribute to work | 15:28 |
| Theuni | i know. that somehow feels like breaking the concept of using the <page /> statement | 15:28 |
| Theuni | right. and it doesn't even complain :) | 15:28 |
| psii | srichter, yeah... hm.. have to think where to begin. In order to know why all those things don't work, only because I wanted my own AddingView, I had to go very deep into the zope source code. And because of all those mixins and so on it also wasn't clear where methods of a class came from or why a class suddenly implements a certain interface. | 15:28 |
| psii | I think, somehow documenting those collaborations would be good. | 15:28 |
| srichter | always having more documentation is good; but documentation costs time and noone is working at this code right now, so there is little motivation | 15:32 |
| psii | yeah, I understand... I just wanted to point out some critical point newcomers might face when lerning zope | 15:35 |
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| Theuni | hmm | 18:11 |
| Theuni | is there a reason zope/zodb/something doesn | 18:11 |
| Theuni | 't remove SecurityProxies when trying to store an object somewhere? | 18:11 |
| Theuni | (besides from: "nobody implemented it") | 18:12 |
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| SteveA | Theuni: iirc you're supposed to use a "setting adapter" or something, which knows how to remove the security adapter | 18:27 |
| SteveA | personally, i'd just make the storage component know about removing security proxies | 18:27 |
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| mgedmin | what would be a clean way to distinguish checkbox widgets in a METAL macro? | 19:42 |
| mgedmin | I have a macro, used like this: <tal:block metal:use-macro="view/macros/form_rows" /> | 19:42 |
| mgedmin | the macro loops over view/widgets and renders <div class="row"><div class="label">...</div><div class="field">...</div></div> | 19:43 |
| mgedmin | which works just fine for text fields and drop-downs of all sorts | 19:43 |
| mgedmin | but checkboxes look funny | 19:43 |
| * mgedmin found a solution | 19:49 | |
| mgedmin | tal:condition="python: widget.type == 'checkbox'" | 19:49 |
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| AJC | i'm a bit confused where to put Zope.View permissions for the dublincore 'creator' attribute. i need it accessible from a page template, any ideas? | 20:36 |
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| regebro | Hiya all! | 21:44 |
| regebro | I need some convincing that my test problem is not a security hole. :) | 21:45 |
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| regebro | It is after all in Zope 3 code, but under Five... so hopefully it's not a security hole. At least not under Zope 3 itself. :) | 21:45 |
| AJC | how much convincing do you need? | 21:46 |
| AJC | it's not a security hole. | 21:46 |
| AJC | (good enough? ) | 21:47 |
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| regebro | Nope. :) ParanoidSecurityPolicy, will return True if participations are an empty list. | 21:47 |
| regebro | Which they are when I run my unit test. | 21:48 |
| regebro | The result: The anonymous user that is used in the unit tests can do exactly whatever it wants... | 21:48 |
| regebro | Uh-oh... | 21:48 |
| regebro | I mean, it checks that I have no particiapations where user is not system_user. But surely, is that what it's supposed to check? | 21:53 |
| regebro | Shouldn't it check that there is at least one participation too? | 21:53 |
| regebro | Who knows? J1m? | 21:54 |
| AJC | sorry, can't help much regebro... i hope at least you can take comfort in my companionship through these hard times. | 21:56 |
| AJC | :) | 21:56 |
| regebro | Thanks. :) | 21:57 |
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| AJC | on the bright side, i found my problem... | 22:33 |
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| nohero | hola | 22:38 |
| nohero | is there a book about zope3? | 22:39 |
| nohero | zopebook v3? | 22:39 |
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| mgedmin | nohero, there are two | 22:42 |
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| mgedmin | you can find a pdf of stephan's book on the zope 3 wiki | 22:42 |
| mgedmin | and phillip's has a site at worldcookery.net (iirc) | 22:42 |
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| nohero | mgedmin: obligado | 22:54 |
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| nohero | wow stepan's book is traslated in italian | 23:17 |
| nohero | :) | 23:17 |
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