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| J1m | BTW did I miss discussion on the web SIG about logging? | 00:04 |
| srichter | no, I have been dragging my feet | 00:04 |
| srichter | :-( | 00:05 |
| srichter | I was very busy recently | 00:05 |
| srichter | (SchoolTool is in its end sprint of features for the upcoming school year) | 00:05 |
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| J1m | we should really try to get this resolved this month. | 00:06 |
| srichter | I am fully booked for the next 3 weeks (due to the sprint) | 00:06 |
| srichter | and I am slo going to Rotterdam for a better part of a week | 00:07 |
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| WebMaven | Hi, I am trying to install 3.2 from source and am running into compilation problems. Does 3.2 need a particular gcc version? | 02:43 |
| WebMaven | I have gcc 4.0 installed. | 02:45 |
| efge | WebMaven: gcc 4.0 works fine here on Mac OS X | 02:47 |
| WebMaven | is there a pastebin commonly used by this channel? | 02:49 |
| WebMaven | here is what I get from doing ./configure and then make: http://paste.plone.org/1983 | 02:52 |
| efge | no idea what that could be, something fucked up in your gcc install? | 03:08 |
| WebMaven | maybe... but i just installed gcc via synaptic (on Ubuntu), so I don't think that's too likely. | 03:14 |
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| WebMaven | srichter: AYT? | 04:00 |
| WebMaven | philiKON: AYT? | 04:09 |
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| WebMaven | Cman anyone tell me what this warning means when building Zope 3.2 from source?: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of ‘PyString_FromStringAndSize’ differ in signedness | 04:44 |
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| philiKON | WebMaven, now i am | 04:58 |
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| romanofski | moin | 15:08 |
| philiKON | moin romanofski | 15:14 |
| romanofski | hey philiKON :) | 15:24 |
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| roym | If I create a python script in a folder via the ZMI, I find that I cannot edit it via ftp. Seems like a twisted issue.. | 16:51 |
| roym | result = f(*args, **kwargs) | 16:51 |
| roym | File "/usr/local/Zope3-trunk/src/zope/app/twisted/ftp/ftp.py", line 177, in _stat | 16:51 |
| roym | raise ftp.WrongFiletype() | 16:51 |
| roym | twisted.protocols.ftp.WrongFiletype: | 16:51 |
| d2m | roym: quick solution: use ExternaleEditor | 16:56 |
| roym | How would I use it? - would I need to use webdav (I see that there is a page called "external_edit" defined). | 17:07 |
| d2m | roym: working with the trunk you already got "src/zope/app/externaleditor" | 17:12 |
| roym | What confused me was that the "External Edit" tab didn't show up for a zpt page. I notice that it does show up for regular files. | 17:13 |
| d2m | roym: in its config.zcml add a content configuration for <content class="zope.app.pythonpage.PythonPage"> (just like the one for <content class="zope.app.file.File">) | 17:13 |
| roym | d2m: thanks! | 17:14 |
| d2m | roym: check if zopeskel/etc/package-includes/zope.app.externaleditor-configure.zcml is available too | 17:16 |
| roym | yes, it is indeed. I guess I just need to follow your suggestions for both PythonPage and TemplateFile types. | 17:19 |
| philiKON | d2m, <content> for zope.app.pythonpage.PythonPage has nothing to do with the External Edit tab | 17:19 |
| philiKON | <content> is all about security declarations (and some minor things like factories from class and additional interfaces) | 17:19 |
| d2m | philiKON: oh, did not know that | 17:20 |
| philiKON | <content> is a bad name | 17:20 |
| d2m | but it made it work for me | 17:20 |
| philiKON | it ahs an alias | 17:20 |
| philiKON | <class> | 17:20 |
| philiKON | that's weird | 17:20 |
| philiKON | here's the deal | 17:20 |
| philiKON | the External Edit tab is only shown for objects providing zope.app.externaleditor.interfaces.IExternallyEditable | 17:20 |
| philiKON | this is a marker interface with an implied contract | 17:20 |
| philiKON | see its docstring | 17:21 |
| roym | philiKON: is it possible to enable externaleditor for zpt and py files? | 17:23 |
| d2m | philiKON: thats what i did, <content class="zope.app.pythonpage.PythonPage"><implements interface="zope.app.externaleditor.interfaces.IExternallyEditable"/></content> | 17:23 |
| philiKON | roym, py files? | 17:33 |
| philiKON | d2m, ah, well, that's something different :) | 17:33 |
| philiKON | d2m, you didn't say anything about what you put inside the <content> thing | 17:33 |
| d2m | philiKON: i see, it might better go into the overrides.zcml file ? | 17:33 |
| philiKON | overrides.zcml is old-school | 17:34 |
| philiKON | make an overrides.zcml in your package and hten include it via an *-overrides.zcml slug | 17:34 |
| roym | philiKON: You were alluding to something about "what goes inside" the content decl. | 17:42 |
| roym | I see that simply using the content declaration doesn't work. I get: | 17:43 |
| roym | File "/usr/local/Zope3-trunk/src/zope/interface/interface.py", line 682, in __call__ | 17:43 |
| roym | raise TypeError("Could not adapt", obj, self) | 17:43 |
| roym | TypeError: ('Could not adapt', <zope.app.pythonpage.PythonPage object at 0x4396112c>, <InterfaceClass zope.app.filerepresentation.interfaces.IReadFile>) | 17:43 |
| philiKON | roym, read the docstring to IExternallyEditable | 17:43 |
| philiKON | i *said* it implies a contract | 17:43 |
| philiKON | a part of that contract is being adaptable to IReadFile | 17:43 |
| roym | Is this adapter already available or do I have to roll my own? | 17:44 |
| philiKON | well, if you're getting "Could not adapt" it's probably not available :) | 17:45 |
| roym | Would adding the content declaration in my overrides.zcml hide the original decl for the PythonPage or does it augment it? I imagine that an IReadFile adapter is what allows the TTW editing that is available now. | 17:47 |
| philiKON | first, anything in overrides.zcml overrides | 17:50 |
| philiKON | it doesn't augment | 17:50 |
| philiKON | hence the name | 17:50 |
| philiKON | second, the TTW editing has nothing to do with IReadFile adapters | 17:50 |
| philiKON | got my book? | 17:50 |
| roym | yes, I do. | 17:51 |
| philiKON | chapter 10, adapters | 17:51 |
| philiKON | file representation | 17:51 |
| philiKON | that's what IReadFile is about | 17:51 |
| philiKON | TTW forms are rendered from the schema | 17:52 |
| roym | I used that to build an ftp adapter to my custom objects - sadly, that is now broken with the twisted implementation :( | 17:52 |
| philiKON | how so?? | 17:52 |
| philiKON | shouldn't be | 17:52 |
| philiKON | what's the error? | 17:53 |
| roym | Any attempt to ftp edit gives me: | 17:53 |
| philiKON | please use a pastebin if it's a lot | 17:53 |
| roym | result = f(*args, **kwargs) | 17:53 |
| roym | File "/usr/local/Zope3-trunk/src/zope/app/twisted/ftp/ftp.py", line 177, in _stat | 17:53 |
| roym | raise ftp.WrongFiletype() | 17:53 |
| roym | twisted.protocols.ftp.WrongFiletype: | 17:53 |
| philiKON | then what? | 17:54 |
| philiKON | what's the wrong file type? | 17:54 |
| roym | I get a blank screen.. | 17:54 |
| roym | I think it doesn't like the 'd' type | 17:55 |
| philiKON | 'd' type? | 17:55 |
| roym | This error shows up even when editing a 'ZPT Page' added TTW, via ftp | 17:55 |
| philiKON | "even" | 17:55 |
| philiKON | not sure what you're saying | 17:56 |
| philiKON | try editing a regular file object via HTTP | 17:57 |
| philiKON | does that work? | 17:57 |
| roym | do you mean http as in TTW, or with External Editor? | 17:57 |
| philiKON | err, FTP i meant | 17:58 |
| philiKON | try editing a regular file object via FTP | 17:58 |
| roym | I think it might be my ange-ftp client not setting the type correctly to 'f' - I can do a command line "get" via ftp without issues. | 17:59 |
| roym | Thanks | 18:01 |
| roym | Quick question: is there an equivalent of Z2's Local File System in z3? | 18:01 |
| philiKON | haven't seen one yet. but blobs are promising | 18:04 |
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| d2m | if i implement the IReadFile adapter for an object that returns unicode data (like PythonPage does), i get a "ValueError: Unicode results must have a text content type." exception | 18:46 |
| d2m | where would i return that text content type ? | 18:46 |
| philiKON | not sure. i think returning anything else than an 8byte string in a ReadFile adapter is asking for bad news | 18:47 |
| d2m | thats true | 18:47 |
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| roym | I'm looking to add my own means of authentication (using SQL lookup) to a custom class based on PrincipalFolder. Is overriding getCredentials() all that I need to do here (aside from making my class a utility)? | 22:50 |
| philiKON | huh? | 22:50 |
| philiKON | are you trying to provide a custom means of extracting credentials from a request? | 22:51 |
| roym | Am trying to use SQL (to store user/pw info in a table). | 22:51 |
| philiKON | or are you trying to provide custom authentication of credentials with an existing user database | 22:51 |
| roym | yes, the latter. | 22:51 |
| philiKON | ok | 22:51 |
| philiKON | i assume you're using zope.app.authentication and not zope.app.pluggableauth? | 22:52 |
| roym | yes, the new version of authentication (and not based on the examples in the book). | 22:52 |
| philiKON | you need to write an IAuthenticatorPlugin | 22:52 |
| philiKON | you can look that interface up in apidoc | 22:52 |
| roym | If I subclassed PrincipalFolder wouldn't that work well | 22:53 |
| roym | and overrode getCredentials. | 22:53 |
| philiKON | it's basically a local utility sitting a pluggable authentication instance | 22:53 |
| philiKON | hmm | 22:53 |
| philiKON | i don't see getCredentials | 22:53 |
| philiKON | plus, i don't think it's what you want] | 22:54 |
| roym | sorry, authenticateCredentials | 22:54 |
| philiKON | yeah, but a PrincipalFolder is geared towards holding persistent principal objects | 22:54 |
| philiKON | i mean, hey, IAuthenticatorPlugin is pretty easy | 22:54 |
| roym | aah, that is what I was struggling with. | 22:54 |
| philiKON | just two methods | 22:54 |
| philiKON | authenticateCredentials and principalInfo | 22:55 |
| philiKON | should be pretty easy to implement those | 22:55 |
| philiKON | don't try to reuse stuff that isn't fit for reuse, especially not *that* kind of reuse | 22:55 |
| roym | yes, agreed - am thrilled at having gotten over some basic issues in understanding how the whole PAU stuff works. | 22:56 |
| philiKON | PAU is pretty easy | 22:56 |
| philiKON | i like the simplicity of the framework | 22:56 |
| philiKON | next edition of the book will cover it :) | 22:56 |
| roym | Are you serious about making a 2nd ed? | 22:57 |
| philiKON | yes | 22:57 |
| philiKON | said it from the beginning | 22:57 |
| philiKON | that i won't leave it at just the 1st edition | 22:57 |
| roym | I'll be thrilled when it comes out. the first was helpful, but I didn't grok the new auth scheme till today. | 22:57 |
| roym | What is the difference between "Found Principal" and "created principal" events? Do I need to care.... | 22:57 |
| philiKON | found principal created event is a special principal created event | 22:58 |
| philiKON | it's one that's fired when an principal object is created by means of searching | 22:59 |
| philiKON | e.g. for a search result set | 22:59 |
| roym | Also, from looking at the code, I take it that PrincipalInfo objects are lightweight - ie: created and destroyed lots of times in a session. correct? | 22:59 |
| philiKON | basically yes | 23:00 |
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| philiKON | i mean, it depends on the means you store the principals | 23:00 |
| philiKON | persistent principals are obviously always there :) | 23:00 |
| philiKON | because they live in the zodb | 23:00 |
| philiKON | stuff coming from sql might not | 23:00 |
| philiKON | perhaps sqlobject might be a good way to automate some of this | 23:01 |
| roym | Is SQLObject ready for use w/trunk? | 23:01 |
| philiKON | sqlobject is always ready :) | 23:01 |
| roym | :) | 23:01 |
| philiKON | you're probably talkign about sqlos | 23:01 |
| philiKON | the sqlobject support package | 23:01 |
| roym | sorry - yes. | 23:01 |
| philiKON | i'm not sure, ask on #z3-base | 23:02 |
| philiKON | but i thikn sqlos primarily focuses on content objects coming from sql | 23:02 |
| philiKON | though principals coming from sql would be a nice feature for sqlos | 23:02 |
| philiKON | perhaps you can contribute :) | 23:02 |
| roym | As soon as I become more confident about my implementation, will be happy to.. | 23:02 |
| philiKON | great | 23:03 |
| philiKON | your contact is jinty at #z3-base | 23:03 |
| roym | thanks | 23:03 |
| philiKON | he's sort of maintaining sqlos | 23:03 |
| philiKON | OMG, 5am | 23:03 |
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