IRC log of #zope3-dev for Friday, 2006-03-17

elrowhere is the browser:page directive defined?00:00
elrohmm. is there anything like the apache location directive? I'd like to specify that when I visit /foo I get a foo.Foo object instantiated00:17
*** tanghus has joined #zope3-dev00:18
*** tristil has quit IRC00:39
*** zbir has quit IRC00:39
*** J1m_ has joined #zope3-dev00:42
*** SteveA has quit IRC00:47
*** natea has quit IRC00:55
*** MJ has quit IRC01:11
*** mcdonc has quit IRC01:17
*** philiZZZ has joined #zope3-dev01:24
joshztiredbones: still there?01:42
*** gumpa is now known as gumpa-afk01:43
*** elro has quit IRC01:45
*** tarek has quit IRC01:46
*** BjornT has joined #zope3-dev01:47
*** BjornT has quit IRC01:57
*** rockyburt|hockey is now known as rockyburt|zzz02:00
*** philiZZZ has quit IRC02:21
*** kevdev99 has quit IRC02:41
*** strichter has joined #zope3-dev02:44
*** srichter has quit IRC02:44
*** strichter is now known as srichter02:44
*** ChanServ sets mode: +o srichter02:44
*** yota has quit IRC02:47
tiredbonesjoshz, hi02:58
joshztiredbones: couldnt get them to work03:08
joshzjust recently tried03:08
joshzi am now modifying buddy folder03:08
tiredbonesjoshz, what couldn'r you get working?03:08
tiredbonesjoshz, the examples from Stephan's/03:09
tiredbonesjoshz, the examples from Stephan's book?03:09
joshzfrom zope book03:10
tiredbonesjoshz, what kind of problem are you having?03:11
tiredboneswith messageboard?03:11
joshzwont work properly, at this point I am just trying to get somehting up and running03:11
joshzits really hard03:11
joshzlot of things go wrong and I have no idea how to fix them03:11
tiredbonesjoshz, did you try zwiki?03:12
joshzyeah that worked03:12
tiredbonesjoshz, for the other did you create an instance?03:12
joshzi don't remember, i dont have it up and running any more03:13
tiredbonesjoshz, cd  to the Zope directory and see if you and instance there.03:14
tiredbonesjoshz, cd  to the Zope directory and see if you have instance there.03:14
joshzive made a zope instance if thats what you are asking03:15
joshzits really hard to debug the exceptions I get03:15
joshzusually it is totally meaningless03:15
tiredbonesjoshz, ok . Wher eyou able toget to the test phase in messageboard?03:16
joshzyes tat worked03:16
joshzjust want to verify if someone else had the problem03:16
joshzi am working on something else currently03:16
joshzcan't debug right now03:16
tiredbonesjoshz, well you got further than I did. I can't figure out why I'm get ImportErrors.03:17
tiredboneson the test phase.03:17
joshzi get those damn import errors all the time03:17
joshzi cant figure out what causes them03:18
joshzi just mess around until it goes away03:18
joshzzope3 dev is insane03:18
joshzits like black magic or something03:18
tiredbonesjoshz, there are many pieces to the puzzle, thats for sure.03:19
joshzwell i managed to rename buddy list to the name I wanted- yay!03:20
tiredbonesjoshz, It should be familar to you if had EBJ. Isn't that component arch.?03:20
tiredbonesjoshz, It will get down to me sooner or later, until then I fight with.03:22
joshzzope3 is more like: gee I wonder what will happen if I do this;...03:22
joshztiredbones: so what brings you to the sordid world of zope3?03:23
tiredbonesjoshz, I'm interested in the school software and I think Zope's schooltool will be good in the future.03:24
joshzI see03:24
joshzsomeone should make CRM for zope03:24
joshzthat will bring in a lot of people03:24
joshzi still can't make heads or tails of the testing mechanism03:25
tiredbonesCRM is what?03:25
joshzcustomer relationship manager03:25
joshzits really interesting how zope people are so detatched from the big biz world03:25
joshzsugarCRM made this complete POS CRM system and they a few million in funding( in PHP )03:26
tiredbonesjoshz, From what I gather about the test phase is to verify your contract.03:26
joshzi know what its for: but the docs are like 'put this line here and that line there' viola you have a testing module03:27
joshzzope people have a high tolerance for that kind of thing I find03:28
joshzmost of this junk is mainly to support the ZMI03:28
tiredbonesThe docs tell you how but not why.03:28
joshzwhich developers don't really want or need03:28
joshzthey should give more examples of developement without the ZMI( if it is even possible iwth Z3 )03:29
tiredbonesWell, I think there headed in that direction. It's called Zen.03:30
joshzwhose they?03:30
tiredbonesThe main developers and Zope Corp..03:30
joshzjust a high speed object database + security/roles + versioning would be great03:31
joshzjust manipulate through python03:31
joshzand add the web interface that you build03:31
joshzare there any links on Zen?03:32
tiredbonesjoshz, why do you want to use Zope?03:32
joshzit offers a lot of stuff I need03:32
joshzis there anything else you would suggest?03:32
joshzi like the versioned objects03:33
joshzi like the automated user login03:33
joshzthings like that are nice03:33
tiredbonesjoshz, Go to the irc logs and you should find some comments on Zen.03:33
joshzdo you know of anything that does the above?03:34
tiredbonesjoshz, have you looked at plone?03:34
joshzi know plone03:34
joshzyou don't get enough control with plone03:34
tiredbonesjoshz, What about TurboGear?03:35
joshzdon't know much about it03:35
joshzalso internationalization is good in zope03:35
tiredbonesjoshz, I only saw a demo of turbo.03:36
tiredbonesjoshz, thers is also Django(sp).03:36
tiredbonesjoshz, Did you look at RoR?03:37
tiredbonesjoshz, where did you get buddy at? I don't think I saw that package.03:38
*** mp has quit IRC03:48
*** oferw has joined #zope3-dev03:51
*** mp has joined #zope3-dev03:51
joshzbuddy comes with zope svn04:04
joshzwhat is this for? :__parent__ = __name__ = None04:05
*** jpfarias has quit IRC04:09
*** stub has joined #zope3-dev04:29
*** mp has quit IRC05:00
*** mp has joined #zope3-dev05:03
*** oferw has quit IRC05:16
*** niemeyer has quit IRC05:50
*** joshz has quit IRC05:51
*** kamalgill has quit IRC05:54
*** sm has quit IRC06:06
*** mp has quit IRC06:11
*** mp has joined #zope3-dev06:14
*** mp has quit IRC06:34
*** mp has joined #zope3-dev06:37
*** kamalgill has joined #zope3-dev06:49
*** deo has quit IRC06:59
*** mcdonc has joined #zope3-dev07:04
*** elbixio has joined #zope3-dev07:10
*** zopePloneConsult has joined #zope3-dev07:22
*** dobee has joined #zope3-dev07:34
*** elbixio has quit IRC07:48
*** dobee has quit IRC07:52
*** stub has quit IRC08:06
*** dobee has joined #zope3-dev08:12
*** eins has joined #zope3-dev08:14
*** sashav has joined #zope3-dev08:28
*** natea has joined #zope3-dev08:56
*** natea is now known as natea|austin08:59
*** kamalgill has left #zope3-dev09:03
*** Theuni has joined #zope3-dev09:12
*** hdima has joined #zope3-dev09:23
*** MJ has joined #zope3-dev09:38
*** drzoltron_ has joined #zope3-dev09:41
einsdo "records" work the same in zope3 page templates as it used to in zope2??09:42
einsI'm talking about records converter09:43
drzoltron_can I pass a parameter into a macro (TAL) ?09:43
drzoltron_METAL even ;)09:43
zopePloneConsultu can even pass 209:43
drzoltron_zopePloneConsult: cool, how ?09:44
zopePloneConsultjust tal:define09:44
zopePloneConsulttal:define="param python: 1+1;"09:45
zopePloneConsultand then use param09:45
*** natea|austin has quit IRC09:46
*** stub has joined #zope3-dev10:06
*** zagy has joined #zope3-dev10:18
*** zagy has quit IRC10:20
*** sashav has joined #zope3-dev10:27
*** rockyburt|zzz has quit IRC10:32
*** faassen has joined #zope3-dev10:35
*** drzoltron_ has quit IRC10:36
*** alga has joined #zope3-dev10:41
*** zagy has joined #zope3-dev10:44
*** BjornT has joined #zope3-dev10:56
*** romanofski has joined #zope3-dev10:58
*** dunny has joined #zope3-dev11:00
*** tarek has joined #zope3-dev11:16
*** alga has quit IRC11:17
*** dlk has joined #zope3-dev11:18
*** SteveA has joined #zope3-dev11:27
*** mgedmin has joined #zope3-dev11:28
*** BjornT has quit IRC11:33
*** BjornT_ has joined #zope3-dev11:33
*** BjornT_ is now known as BjornT11:34
*** projekt01 has joined #zope3-dev11:37
*** jinty has joined #zope3-dev11:43
*** mgedmin has quit IRC11:43
*** romanofski has quit IRC11:45
*** mgedmin has joined #zope3-dev11:45
*** dunny has quit IRC12:05
*** romanofski has joined #zope3-dev12:12
*** yota has joined #zope3-dev12:14
*** hazmat has quit IRC12:14
*** rockyburt has joined #zope3-dev12:42
*** jinty has quit IRC12:46
*** projekt01 has left #zope3-dev12:55
*** whit has quit IRC13:06
*** jinty has joined #zope3-dev13:08
*** ignas has joined #zope3-dev13:09
*** danfairs has joined #zope3-dev13:10
*** romanofski has quit IRC13:11
*** J1m_ has joined #zope3-dev13:15
*** rockyburt has quit IRC13:58
*** rockyburt has joined #zope3-dev14:04
*** J1m_ has quit IRC14:22
*** danfairs has quit IRC14:32
*** whit has joined #zope3-dev14:34
*** danfairs has joined #zope3-dev14:37
*** romanofski has joined #zope3-dev14:45
*** niemeyer has joined #zope3-dev14:57
*** SteveA has quit IRC15:22
*** BjornT has quit IRC15:31
*** rockyburt is now known as rockyburt|away15:33
*** jinty has quit IRC15:47
*** rockyburt|away is now known as rockyburt15:49
*** jinty has joined #zope3-dev15:52
*** TrevorP has quit IRC16:00
*** TrevorP has joined #zope3-dev16:01
*** zagy has quit IRC16:04
*** zopePloneConsult has left #zope3-dev16:06
*** BjornT has joined #zope3-dev16:07
*** philiZZZ has joined #zope3-dev16:08
*** gumpa-afk has left #zope3-dev16:16
*** gnosis has joined #Zope3-dev16:26
*** zbir has joined #zope3-dev16:26
*** regebro has joined #zope3-dev16:28
*** philiZZZ has quit IRC16:32
*** gintas has joined #zope3-dev16:35
*** sashav has quit IRC16:37
*** gumpa has joined #zope3-dev16:37
*** eins has quit IRC16:39
*** jinty has quit IRC16:42
*** jinty has joined #zope3-dev16:43
*** romanofski has quit IRC16:47
*** stub has quit IRC16:50
*** gnosis has quit IRC17:05
*** jinty has quit IRC17:15
*** jinty has joined #zope3-dev17:16
*** wrobel has quit IRC17:24
*** jinty has quit IRC17:44
*** natea has joined #zope3-dev17:49
*** jinty has joined #zope3-dev17:52
*** natea has joined #zope3-dev17:52
*** hdima has quit IRC17:52
*** sm has joined #zope3-dev18:06
*** alga has joined #zope3-dev18:13
*** regebro has quit IRC18:13
*** dlk has quit IRC18:16
*** niemeyer has quit IRC18:21
*** niemeyer has joined #zope3-dev18:24
*** projekt01 has joined #zope3-dev18:30
*** projekt01 has left #zope3-dev18:32
*** projekt01 has joined #zope3-dev18:35
*** dobee has quit IRC18:36
projekt01srichter, ayt?18:39
*** sashav has joined #zope3-dev18:47
*** pcardune has joined #zope3-dev18:47
*** dunny has joined #zope3-dev18:49
*** dunny has joined #zope3-dev18:50
*** dunny has quit IRC18:51
*** __mac__ has quit IRC18:52
*** dobee has joined #zope3-dev18:53
*** projekt01 has quit IRC19:01
*** jinty has quit IRC19:05
*** Aiste is now known as Aiste|away19:14
*** deo has joined #zope3-dev19:15
*** jinty has joined #zope3-dev19:16
*** oferw has joined #zope3-dev19:17
*** joshz has joined #zope3-dev19:32
*** natea has quit IRC19:34
*** sm has quit IRC19:46
*** sm has joined #zope3-dev19:47
*** jinty has quit IRC19:55
*** natea has joined #zope3-dev19:56
*** jinty has joined #zope3-dev19:56
*** kevdev99 has joined #zope3-dev19:59
*** projekt01 has joined #zope3-dev20:04
*** gintas has quit IRC20:13
*** SiggyF has joined #zope3-dev20:17
*** faassen has quit IRC20:22
*** danfairs has quit IRC20:29
*** SteveA has joined #zope3-dev20:33
*** dunny has joined #zope3-dev20:41
*** oferw has quit IRC20:50
*** MJ has quit IRC20:51
*** jinty has quit IRC20:53
*** dobee has quit IRC20:54
*** jinty has joined #zope3-dev20:54
*** kevdev99 has left #zope3-dev20:59
*** M1 has joined #zope3-dev21:03
*** M1 is now known as MJ21:04
*** ignas has quit IRC21:08
*** gumpa is now known as gumpa-afk21:09
*** projekt01 has quit IRC21:17
*** stub has joined #zope3-dev21:20
*** Administrateur has joined #zope3-dev21:22
*** Administrateur has quit IRC21:23
*** natea_ has joined #zope3-dev21:44
*** natea_ has quit IRC21:44
*** gnosis has joined #Zope3-dev21:44
*** natea_ has joined #zope3-dev21:45
*** projekt01 has joined #zope3-dev21:48
*** natea has quit IRC21:55
*** hazmat has joined #zope3-dev21:59
*** Theuni has quit IRC22:01
*** MJ has quit IRC22:01
*** MJ has joined #zope3-dev22:05
*** pcardune has quit IRC22:16
*** BjornT has quit IRC22:21
*** sm is now known as sm-pub22:29
*** ChrisW has joined #zope3-dev22:37
ChrisWhi all, when I see "The following test left garbage:"22:37
ChrisWwhat does that actually mean22:37
ChrisWhow do I fix it?22:37
*** tanghus has quit IRC22:37
*** tanghus has joined #zope3-dev22:38
*** natea_ is now known as natea|busy22:51
*** stub has quit IRC22:52
*** jinty has quit IRC23:00
*** zbir has quit IRC23:01
*** jinty has joined #zope3-dev23:02
*** jinty has quit IRC23:14
*** BjornT has joined #zope3-dev23:14
*** sm-pub has quit IRC23:26
*** mgedmin has quit IRC23:35
*** gnosis has quit IRC23:37
*** _projekt01 has joined #zope3-dev23:42
*** projekt01 has quit IRC23:42
*** _projekt01 is now known as projekt0123:42
*** ChrisW has left #zope3-dev23:46
*** alga has quit IRC23:49

Generated by 2.15.1 by Marius Gedminas - find it at!