| elro | where is the browser:page directive defined? | 00:00 |
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| elro | hmm. is there anything like the apache location directive? I'd like to specify that when I visit /foo I get a foo.Foo object instantiated | 00:17 |
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| joshz | tiredbones: still there? | 01:42 |
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| tiredbones | joshz, hi | 02:58 |
| joshz | tiredbones: couldnt get them to work | 03:08 |
| joshz | just recently tried | 03:08 |
| joshz | i am now modifying buddy folder | 03:08 |
| tiredbones | joshz, what couldn'r you get working? | 03:08 |
| tiredbones | joshz, the examples from Stephan's/ | 03:09 |
| tiredbones | joshz, the examples from Stephan's book? | 03:09 |
| joshz | from zope book | 03:10 |
| joshz | messageboard | 03:10 |
| tiredbones | joshz, what kind of problem are you having? | 03:11 |
| tiredbones | with messageboard? | 03:11 |
| joshz | wont work properly, at this point I am just trying to get somehting up and running | 03:11 |
| joshz | its really hard | 03:11 |
| joshz | lot of things go wrong and I have no idea how to fix them | 03:11 |
| tiredbones | joshz, did you try zwiki? | 03:12 |
| joshz | yeah that worked | 03:12 |
| tiredbones | joshz, for the other did you create an instance? | 03:12 |
| joshz | i don't remember, i dont have it up and running any more | 03:13 |
| tiredbones | joshz, cd to the Zope directory and see if you and instance there. | 03:14 |
| tiredbones | joshz, cd to the Zope directory and see if you have instance there. | 03:14 |
| joshz | ive made a zope instance if thats what you are asking | 03:15 |
| joshz | its really hard to debug the exceptions I get | 03:15 |
| joshz | usually it is totally meaningless | 03:15 |
| tiredbones | joshz, ok . Wher eyou able toget to the test phase in messageboard? | 03:16 |
| joshz | yes tat worked | 03:16 |
| joshz | just want to verify if someone else had the problem | 03:16 |
| joshz | i am working on something else currently | 03:16 |
| joshz | can't debug right now | 03:16 |
| tiredbones | joshz, well you got further than I did. I can't figure out why I'm get ImportErrors. | 03:17 |
| tiredbones | on the test phase. | 03:17 |
| joshz | i get those damn import errors all the time | 03:17 |
| joshz | i cant figure out what causes them | 03:18 |
| joshz | i just mess around until it goes away | 03:18 |
| joshz | zope3 dev is insane | 03:18 |
| joshz | its like black magic or something | 03:18 |
| tiredbones | joshz, there are many pieces to the puzzle, thats for sure. | 03:19 |
| joshz | well i managed to rename buddy list to the name I wanted- yay! | 03:20 |
| tiredbones | joshz, It should be familar to you if had EBJ. Isn't that component arch.? | 03:20 |
| joshz | EJB has DOCUMENTATION | 03:20 |
| tiredbones | joshz, It will get down to me sooner or later, until then I fight with. | 03:22 |
| joshz | zope3 is more like: gee I wonder what will happen if I do this;... | 03:22 |
| joshz | tiredbones: so what brings you to the sordid world of zope3? | 03:23 |
| tiredbones | joshz, I'm interested in the school software and I think Zope's schooltool will be good in the future. | 03:24 |
| joshz | I see | 03:24 |
| joshz | someone should make CRM for zope | 03:24 |
| joshz | that will bring in a lot of people | 03:24 |
| joshz | i still can't make heads or tails of the testing mechanism | 03:25 |
| tiredbones | CRM is what? | 03:25 |
| joshz | customer relationship manager | 03:25 |
| joshz | its really interesting how zope people are so detatched from the big biz world | 03:25 |
| joshz | sugarCRM made this complete POS CRM system and they a few million in funding( in PHP ) | 03:26 |
| tiredbones | joshz, From what I gather about the test phase is to verify your contract. | 03:26 |
| joshz | i know what its for: but the docs are like 'put this line here and that line there' viola you have a testing module | 03:27 |
| joshz | zope people have a high tolerance for that kind of thing I find | 03:28 |
| joshz | most of this junk is mainly to support the ZMI | 03:28 |
| tiredbones | The docs tell you how but not why. | 03:28 |
| joshz | which developers don't really want or need | 03:28 |
| joshz | they should give more examples of developement without the ZMI( if it is even possible iwth Z3 ) | 03:29 |
| tiredbones | Well, I think there headed in that direction. It's called Zen. | 03:30 |
| joshz | whose they? | 03:30 |
| tiredbones | The main developers and Zope Corp.. | 03:30 |
| joshz | just a high speed object database + security/roles + versioning would be great | 03:31 |
| joshz | just manipulate through python | 03:31 |
| joshz | and add the web interface that you build | 03:31 |
| joshz | are there any links on Zen? | 03:32 |
| tiredbones | joshz, why do you want to use Zope? | 03:32 |
| joshz | it offers a lot of stuff I need | 03:32 |
| joshz | is there anything else you would suggest? | 03:32 |
| joshz | i like the versioned objects | 03:33 |
| joshz | i like the automated user login | 03:33 |
| joshz | things like that are nice | 03:33 |
| tiredbones | joshz, Go to the irc logs and you should find some comments on Zen. | 03:33 |
| joshz | ok | 03:34 |
| joshz | do you know of anything that does the above? | 03:34 |
| tiredbones | joshz, have you looked at plone? | 03:34 |
| joshz | i know plone | 03:34 |
| joshz | you don't get enough control with plone | 03:34 |
| tiredbones | joshz, What about TurboGear? | 03:35 |
| joshz | don't know much about it | 03:35 |
| joshz | also internationalization is good in zope | 03:35 |
| tiredbones | joshz, I only saw a demo of turbo. | 03:36 |
| tiredbones | joshz, thers is also Django(sp). | 03:36 |
| tiredbones | joshz, Did you look at RoR? | 03:37 |
| tiredbones | joshz, where did you get buddy at? I don't think I saw that package. | 03:38 |
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| joshz | buddy comes with zope svn | 04:04 |
| joshz | what is this for? :__parent__ = __name__ = None | 04:05 |
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| eins | hi | 08:14 |
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| eins | do "records" work the same in zope3 page templates as it used to in zope2?? | 09:42 |
| eins | I'm talking about records converter | 09:43 |
| drzoltron_ | can I pass a parameter into a macro (TAL) ? | 09:43 |
| drzoltron_ | METAL even ;) | 09:43 |
| zopePloneConsult | sure | 09:43 |
| zopePloneConsult | u can even pass 2 | 09:43 |
| drzoltron_ | zopePloneConsult: cool, how ? | 09:44 |
| zopePloneConsult | just tal:define | 09:44 |
| drzoltron_ | ah | 09:45 |
| zopePloneConsult | tal:define="param python: 1+1;" | 09:45 |
| zopePloneConsult | and then use param | 09:45 |
| drzoltron_ | ok | 09:46 |
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| ChrisW | hi all, when I see "The following test left garbage:" | 22:37 |
| ChrisW | what does that actually mean | 22:37 |
| ChrisW | how do I fix it? | 22:37 |
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