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| eins | hi | 08:08 |
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| romanofski | moin:) | 09:32 |
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| J1m_ | mexiKON, deleting and recreating the jim-adapter branch was a really bad idea. | 14:37 |
| * mexiKON looks guilty | 14:37 | |
| mexiKON | why? | 14:37 |
| J1m_ | It makes merging really hard. | 14:37 |
| mexiKON | the point was to make merging really easy | 14:38 |
| J1m_ | My fixes to zpt didn't get merged and now I can't seem to merge them. | 14:38 |
| mexiKON | eh? | 14:38 |
| J1m_ | You see if you can merge 66358 | 14:38 |
| * mexiKON takes a look | 14:38 | |
| J1m_ | This was the revision in which I changed tales "|" handling to look for LookupError. | 14:39 |
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| mexiKON | i wonder why it didn't get merged in the firs tplace] | 14:39 |
| J1m_ | The lack of this fix is making test_zeo fail on the trunk. | 14:39 |
| mexiKON | J1m_, on the trunk? why on the trunk. i didn't merge anythiing to the trunk | 14:40 |
| J1m_ | from now on, let's just make new branches. | 14:40 |
| mexiKON | i'm very confused | 14:40 |
| mexiKON | sure, ok. essentially, that's what i did | 14:40 |
| mexiKON | nayways | 14:40 |
| mexiKON | i'm looking at jim-adapter branch | 14:40 |
| J1m_ | probably someone got rid of NotFoundErrpr on the trunk and didn't run all tests. | 14:40 |
| mexiKON | zope/tales/expression.py contains your fix | 14:41 |
| J1m_ | are you talking about the trunk? | 14:41 |
| mexiKON | no | 14:41 |
| mexiKON | jim-adapter | 14:41 |
| mexiKON | you were talking about jim-adapter | 14:42 |
| J1m_ | I am talking about the trunk | 14:42 |
| mexiKON | oh, ok | 14:42 |
| J1m_ | no, I was talking about the trunk. | 14:42 |
| mexiKON | well, i didn't do anything to the trunk atall | 14:42 |
| J1m_ | I can't merge my fix from jim-adapter though | 14:42 |
| mexiKON | so, my recreating the branch shouldn't have affected it | 14:42 |
| mexiKON | ah, you have to use the different spelling | 14:42 |
| mexiKON | svn merge path@rev1 path@rev2 | 14:42 |
| J1m_ | fine, but now I can't merge the fix | 14:42 |
| mexiKON | svn is stupid about this | 14:42 |
| mexiKON | i think i even mentioned this in an email to you (though probably it was hardly understandable) | 14:44 |
| J1m_ | probably | 14:44 |
| J1m_ | OK, so from now on, let's just create new branches. | 14:44 |
| mexiKON | ok | 14:44 |
| mexiKON | agreed | 14:45 |
| mexiKON | i was trying to do the Right Thing again, by making it easier for you (you would just have to svn up your workspaces) | 14:45 |
| J1m_ | Yay! That worked | 14:45 |
| J1m_ | I appreciate that. | 14:45 |
| J1m_ | I would have been surprised if that worked. | 14:45 |
| mexiKON | we have a saying in germany. Meaning well is the opposite of well :) | 14:46 |
| J1m_ | I didn't have any outstanding work, | 14:46 |
| J1m_ | Hey, I appreciate what you did, | 14:46 |
| J1m_ | I'm just saying, let's do it differently next time. | 14:46 |
| mexiKON | yep | 14:46 |
| J1m_ | I'm also merging the deprecation fix. :) | 14:46 |
| mexiKON | heh, good | 14:47 |
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| zopePloneConsult | mexiKON... phil? | 14:51 |
| mexiKON | yep | 14:51 |
| zopePloneConsult | mexiKON... why the name change? u have a nwe gf? | 14:53 |
| mexiKON | haha | 14:53 |
| mexiKON | no, this is my old alternative nick | 14:53 |
| mexiKON | from when i used to live in mexico | 14:53 |
| zopePloneConsult | must have been before china? | 14:53 |
| mexiKON | yes, the past 6 months i lived in china | 14:53 |
| zopePloneConsult | yeah... i got that from ur blog | 14:54 |
| zopePloneConsult | so what doess well is the opposite of well mean? | 14:54 |
| mexiKON | the translation is a bit rough | 14:54 |
| zopePloneConsult | i thought all is well that ends well would have been apt there | 14:54 |
| mexiKON | a better translation might be "meant well is the opposite of done well" | 14:54 |
| mexiKON | this was a good example | 14:55 |
| mexiKON | i meant very well | 14:55 |
| mexiKON | by not creating a new branch | 14:55 |
| mexiKON | but that got us into more trouble than creating a new branch would have | 14:55 |
| mexiKON | so, my meaning well didn't mean i actually did a good job | 14:56 |
| mexiKON | it happens all the time | 14:56 |
| zopePloneConsult | cool... i understand... something like the road to hell is paved with good intentions :) | 14:56 |
| mexiKON | hmm... no | 14:56 |
| zopePloneConsult | well... both have to do with good intentions and bad results | 14:56 |
| mexiKON | sure | 14:56 |
| mexiKON | but the paving with intentions is more about someone who wants to do good but never does | 14:57 |
| mexiKON | the german saying i mentioned is about someone who actually *does* do something and means well, but just does the opposite of what would have been good | 14:57 |
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| zopePloneConsult | hmm... | 14:58 |
| zopePloneConsult | u mean like the diference between a zope2 and a zope 3 developer ;)? | 14:59 |
| mexiKON | hehe | 14:59 |
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| zopePloneConsult | so is the XingXao in china just as good? | 15:01 |
| mexiKON | you mean QingDao? | 15:02 |
| mexiKON | or, as the old transliteration is, Tsing Tao beer? | 15:03 |
| zopePloneConsult | Thats better | 15:03 |
| zopePloneConsult | I thought they just use X | 15:03 |
| mexiKON | nope | 15:03 |
| mexiKON | Q has the should of 'ch' in 'china' or 'chopper' | 15:03 |
| zopePloneConsult | wow... how did that happen :)? | 15:04 |
| mexiKON | X doesn't have an equivalent sound in english | 15:04 |
| mexiKON | X has the sound of 'ch' in german's 'Kirche' or 'Tuecher' | 15:04 |
| mexiKON | this is pinyin | 15:04 |
| mexiKON | it's an "artificial" system | 15:05 |
| mexiKON | they invented it and needed to place different sounds on different characters | 15:05 |
| mexiKON | the Q was available so they took that sound. it's that simple :) | 15:05 |
| zopePloneConsult | ok... so what were u doing there? | 15:06 |
| zopePloneConsult | Teaching/Developing Zope? | 15:06 |
| mexiKON | nope. working in the automotive business | 15:06 |
| zopePloneConsult | hmm... used cars? :) | 15:06 |
| mexiKON | nope | 15:07 |
| zopePloneConsult | just pulling ur leg.. :) | 15:07 |
| mexiKON | :) | 15:07 |
| mexiKON | i should say automotive industry | 15:07 |
| mexiKON | worked for a huge automotive supplier. one of the biggest world wide in fact | 15:08 |
| zopePloneConsult | they need zcml too? | 15:09 |
| mexiKON | uh, no :) | 15:10 |
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| baldtrol | can someone let me know if i'm just confused? i'm on zope3.2 (not the svn trunk). looking at Action out of zope.formlib.form. looks to me like submitted is defined twice. not that it's currently affecting me, i was actually looking for something else entirely, but i noticed it, and wondered what was up | 18:48 |
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| kamalgill | guys, i'm nearly finished building an OS X installer for Zope 3.2.1, and I need some help setting the effective-user directive in zope.conf | 19:22 |
| kamalgill | i tried this in zope.conf, without success... | 19:22 |
| kamalgill | <runner> | 19:22 |
| kamalgill | user your_username | 19:22 |
| kamalgill | </runner> | 19:22 |
| kamalgill | make that <runner> | 19:22 |
| kamalgill | user zope3 | 19:22 |
| kamalgill | </runner> | 19:22 |
| kamalgill | ugh, should've used pastebin (sorry). | 19:23 |
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| kamalgill | ok, paste at http://zope3.pastebin.com/646334 | 19:24 |
| kamalgill | i'd like z3 to run as user 'zope3', an unprivileged user added by the installer | 19:25 |
| kamalgill | any ideas on how to set the effective-user in zope.conf? | 19:26 |
| * mgedmin usually uses 'sudo -u $youruser zopectl start' in an init script | 19:30 | |
| mgedmin | kamalgill: I think you need to put the <runner> user ... </runner> in zdaemon.conf, not zope.conf | 19:31 |
| kamalgill | ah, zdaemon.conf, ok | 19:32 |
| * kamalgill looks... | 19:32 | |
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| kamalgill | i'm hoping to avoid shipping the installer with its own startup script, so a directive in a conf file is what i'm hoping for. | 19:33 |
| kamalgill | lemme try zdaemon.conf... | 19:33 |
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| kamalgill | mgedmin: right on! looks like zdaemon.conf did the trick. thanks. :) | 19:39 |
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| kamalgill | now i need to cook up a different way to add 'user zope3' to zdaemon.conf (inside <runner>...</runner>), as I was previously appending the directive to the tail of zope.conf. | 19:41 |
| mgedmin | kamalgill: do you use the mkzopeinstance script? | 19:45 |
| mgedmin | it performs some variable substitutions already | 19:45 |
| kamalgill | yes, i've got a postinstall script in the installer that sets up the instance, with a random pw | 19:46 |
| kamalgill | mgedmin: here's the script that's called from the installer's postinstall script to set up the instance... http://zope3.pastebin.com/646386 | 19:51 |
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| * kamalgill wonders if the Zope 3 admin password can be changed TTW | 20:07 | |
| kamalgill | since the installer generates a random pw when creating the zope instance, i'm wondering how the user would change the pw for the manager account. | 20:09 |
| * kamalgill needs to include some documentation with the installer | 20:09 | |
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| * mgedmin hates functional tests that catch and ignore KeyboardInterrupt | 20:14 | |
| mgedmin | ZopeXMLConfigurationError: KeyboardInterrupt, hah! | 20:14 |
| mgedmin | *mumble* *mumble* | 20:15 |
| mexiKON | lol | 20:15 |
| mexiKON | kamalgill, the admin password can be changed. just edit etc/principals.zcml | 20:15 |
| kamalgill | mexiKON: thx, but that would store the pw as cleartext. | 20:16 |
| mexiKON | yeah. no idea if the password generation function is available outside the mkzopeinstance script | 20:16 |
| kamalgill | the install script sets up the pw with SHA1 encryption | 20:16 |
| mexiKON | would be a nice idea to write a zope3 version of the zpasswd script | 20:16 |
| kamalgill | +1. any takers? | 20:17 |
| mexiKON | you just volunteered :) | 20:18 |
| kamalgill | i would love to, but it's a bit over my head i'm afraid | 20:19 |
| kamalgill | well, perhaps i'll give it a shot | 20:19 |
| mexiKON | give it a shot. if you have questions, you can ask back here | 20:19 |
| kamalgill | ok, will do. | 20:19 |
| mexiKON | the mkzopeinstance script would be a good place to start with | 20:19 |
| mexiKON | because it creates and sets the principals.zcml file | 20:20 |
| mexiKON | "sets" as in "sets the password" | 20:20 |
| kamalgill | mexiKON: sounds good--thx for the tip | 20:21 |
| benji | kamalgill, I don't know if it helps any (not really paying attention), but you can tell mkzopeinstance not to encrypt the password | 20:25 |
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| baldtrol | just posted a quick "embedding forms in viewlets" bit over at http://baldtrol.blogspot.com/ ...Gary, Stephan, and Alen all helped me figure out what i needed to do to make that work, so i thought i'd document what i came up with. | 22:33 |
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| * mgedmin sees a lot of ftest failures in zope 3.2 branch | 22:42 | |
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| * mgedmin remembers that he removed a whole bunch of package includes to speed up zope 3 startup | 22:54 | |
| * mgedmin runs 'make' to restore those package includes and reruns zope 3.2 ftests again | 22:54 | |
| * mgedmin wants more RAM | 22:55 | |
| * benji likes this third-person speaking style | 22:56 | |
| mgedmin | next time I'll start in a clean checkout instead of trying to save time | 22:58 |
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