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| * kamalgill continues testing the Zope 3.2.1 OSX installer (PPC) | 09:57 | |
| * kamalgill waves to swiss sprinters | 09:57 | |
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| kamalgill | srichter: ayt? | 10:04 |
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| kamalgill | srichter: how's the sprint going? | 10:05 |
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| kamalgill | sashav! | 10:20 |
| sashav | good morning kamalgill | 10:30 |
| kamalgill | any swiss sprinters here? | 10:30 |
| kamalgill | hi sashav, are you at the z3 swiss sprint? | 10:30 |
| sashav | nope | 10:30 |
| sashav | couldn't make it :( | 10:31 |
| kamalgill | sashav: was jodok able to make it? | 10:31 |
| sashav | don't think so, haven't heard that he was going | 10:33 |
| sashav | kamalgill: he had to cancel it | 10:36 |
| kamalgill | ah, ok. | 10:37 |
| kamalgill | btw, i just finished building and testing an os x installer for zope 3.2.1 (ppc) | 10:37 |
| philiKON | cool. any chance that could also be a universal binary? | 10:38 |
| kamalgill | i'm going to build an intel installer as well | 10:38 |
| kamalgill | i was unable to build it universal on my powermac | 10:38 |
| philiKON | aha. how come? | 10:39 |
| kamalgill | philiKON: well, for one, apple's documentation on building universal using ./configure just isn't accurate | 10:40 |
| kamalgill | http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn2005/tn2137.html | 10:40 |
| kamalgill | http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Porting/Conceptual/PortingUnix/index.html | 10:40 |
| philiKON | kamalgill, right, but it's possible to merge multiple builds, afaik | 10:41 |
| philiKON | ah, yah, there it is | 10:41 |
| kamalgill | philiKON: i'm going to try building universal on my intel imac. i may have better luck there. | 10:41 |
| philiKON | lipo -create hello-intel hello-ppc -output hello | 10:41 |
| philiKON | it doesn't matter where you build them | 10:41 |
| philiKON | you have to cross compile on both platforms | 10:41 |
| kamalgill | yeah, i think lipo might be worth a shot | 10:41 |
| kamalgill | one drawback of building universal is that it would bloat the download size | 10:42 |
| philiKON | hardly | 10:42 |
| philiKON | the bulk amount of data is .py files | 10:43 |
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| kamalgill | well, that's true for zope, but python is mostly compiled C code, right? | 10:43 |
| philiKON | ah, hmm. why are you shipping python with zope? | 10:44 |
| kamalgill | philiKON: os x is still stuck on python 2.3.5 | 10:45 |
| philiKON | but there are other python distros | 10:45 |
| philiKON | e.g. macpython which is afaik also available as uni bin | 10:46 |
| kamalgill | yeah, but the installer aims for a seamless experience, bundling everything in a single directory. | 10:46 |
| kamalgill | that way, all that is needed to remove zope 3.2.1 is to delete a single folder. | 10:46 |
| philiKON | ok | 10:46 |
| * dunny blindly connects dots http://bob.pythonmac.org/archives/2006/04/10/python-and-universal-binaries-on-mac-os-x/ | 10:46 | |
| kamalgill | consistent with conventional mac apps. | 10:46 |
| kamalgill | dunny: thanks for the tip! must've missed that one in my google search | 10:47 |
| dunny | fresh development | 10:48 |
| srichter | kamalgill: I am here :-) | 10:48 |
| kamalgill | hi srichter :) | 10:48 |
| kamalgill | how's the sprint? | 10:48 |
| srichter | very good | 10:48 |
| srichter | the ZSCP site is making good progress | 10:48 |
| srichter | I think we will have something by tomorrow afternoon | 10:49 |
| kamalgill | that's great news | 10:49 |
| kamalgill | you have the code in svn somewhere? | 10:49 |
| srichter | yeah, it is all in zf.zscp | 10:49 |
| philiKON | what's zscp? | 10:50 |
| srichter | you install it as a package and the Web site should be available | 10:50 |
| srichter | Zope Software Certification Program | 10:50 |
| philiKON | ah, right :) | 10:50 |
| philiKON | cool | 10:50 |
| srichter | kamalgill: I dunno, hwat setup you have to manually do right now, but the static pages should come up already | 10:51 |
| srichter | also, Uwe will have a Zope skinned version of Bebop by tomorrow for testing | 10:51 |
| srichter | Bebop is an awesome app for online communication | 10:51 |
| kamalgill | srichter: sounds great. i also heard that Uwe is working on the new zope3.org? | 10:52 |
| srichter | kamalgill: he is working on a collaboration tool; whether this will become the front page is not clear yet, but it would replace our dev.zope.org Wiki | 10:53 |
| srichter | the advantage is that it is a real wiki, but with blog and news views | 10:53 |
| srichter | so that you can see the latest changes, for example | 10:53 |
| srichter | it also has versioning, including merging, which is very nice | 10:54 |
| kamalgill | srichter: ah, ok. need any help with the design of zope3.org? | 10:54 |
| kamalgill | UI design, that is | 10:54 |
| srichter | kamalgill: yep, once the app is up, I would love for you to take a look and make suggestions :-) | 10:55 |
| kamalgill | ok, will do | 10:55 |
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| kamalgill | alright, i better get some sleep soon (1am in california) | 11:00 |
| kamalgill | g'nite | 11:00 |
| srichter | see ya | 11:01 |
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| sashav | hi srichter, say hi to Roger from me | 11:04 |
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| srichter | will do | 11:06 |
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| zopePloneConsult | srichter: url for bebop? | 11:39 |
| srichter | aehm, I have to check | 11:48 |
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| srichter | http://svn.kmrc.de/?intMainMenuId=3 | 11:49 |
| zopePloneConsult | srichter... please... google aint helping | 11:50 |
| zopePloneConsult | srichter... ty | 11:50 |
| srichter | but you really have to get the SVN version | 11:50 |
| srichter | since there has not been a release for a while | 11:50 |
| zopePloneConsult | just wanna see what it does | 11:51 |
| srichter | the site does not talk about the Web capabilities much; it concentrates on the wx client | 11:52 |
| zopePloneConsult | ok | 11:53 |
| zopePloneConsult | what does zope do here? | 11:53 |
| srichter | it provides the backend server | 11:59 |
| srichter | it also has a real site associated with it | 11:59 |
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| sashav | how can I use dtml template in browser:page ? I need to prepare a javascript | 12:41 |
| philiKON | you can't | 12:43 |
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