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| domma | Hi, is this channel only for Zope3 core development or may I also ask general Zope3 questions? | 13:53 |
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| rocky | domma: i recently discovered general zope3 questions are fine too ;) | 13:55 |
| domma | Ok, I have posted my code under http://zope3.pastebin.com/715052 | 13:56 |
| domma | I try to define an Interface which composes other content objects | 13:57 |
| domma | the code shows the interface, the error message if I try to start zope with this interface and the matching line in configure.zcml | 13:58 |
| domma | Any hint what I'm doing wrong? | 13:58 |
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| yota | srichter: ayt ? | 14:16 |
| yota | anybody knows a bit formlib ? | 14:16 |
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| projekt01 | yota, yes | 15:58 |
| yota | Hi Roger :) | 16:08 |
| yota | I'am translating formlib | 16:09 |
| yota | and 1 have 2 small questions | 16:09 |
| yota | What is 'process definition' ? 1/ definition of a process or 2/ a "production" process (synonym of Workflow for ex.) | 16:10 |
| projekt01 | definition of a process | 16:12 |
| projekt01 | a workflow reads the definition data and creates a process | 16:12 |
| projekt01 | Does this help? | 16:13 |
| yota | hum I see | 16:13 |
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| projekt01 | a definition defines the configuration which the process uses | 16:13 |
| yota | and for "class-bases" or "class-attibuts" or "python-module", How I can translate these ? | 16:14 |
| yota | I can make a complete sentence like "attributs of the class" ? | 16:14 |
| yota | efrerich: hi :) | 16:15 |
| projekt01 | In which langauge do you like to translate? | 16:15 |
| yota | French | 16:15 |
| yota | so I can choose "classes-attributs" or "attributs de la classe" | 16:15 |
| yota | I don't have the context | 16:16 |
| projekt01 | in german I whould say "Basis Klasse" | 16:16 |
| yota | ok, litteral | 16:16 |
| yota | thanks projekt01 :) | 16:16 |
| projekt01 | does this make seence in french "Classe Attributs" | 16:16 |
| projekt01 | np | 16:16 |
| yota | yes but in French, needs to swap :) "Attributs de la classe" | 16:17 |
| projekt01 | I think the translation in french is allways to long ;-) | 16:17 |
| yota | ahaha | 16:17 |
| yota | yes, btw It' a problem | 16:17 |
| efrerich | yota: hi | 16:18 |
| yota | because zope3 gui is not readable, I must truncate some sentances | 16:18 |
| yota | it's very bad | 16:18 |
| projekt01 | Or improve the UI ;-) | 16:18 |
| yota | yes i love limi make some love with zope3 ui :) | 16:18 |
| efrerich | I uploaded a new pot-file to launchpad | 16:18 |
| projekt01 | btw, did you also check the Boston skin? | 16:18 |
| yota | s/love/love see/ | 16:19 |
| yota | not yet | 16:19 |
| yota | efrerich: I know, translated already | 16:19 |
| yota | but I need to make some changes after projekt01 explications | 16:19 |
| yota | I have never user formlib | 16:20 |
| yota | and zope3 po files are "uncontext" :) | 16:20 |
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| efrerich | My e-mail to i18n was blocked (Client host [212.6.122.32] blocked using bl.spamcop.net;) | 16:25 |
| efrerich | yota: do you translate in launchpad directly? | 16:25 |
| yota | no, download / work with i18n editor and uplaod | 16:26 |
| yota | no, download / work with i18n editor / uplaod | 16:26 |
| rocky | someone mentioning zope3 UI? the default zope3 zmi looks absolutely hideous ;) | 16:26 |
| yota | rocky: We need to hire Limi I think ;) | 16:26 |
| rocky | yota: to be honest to me the zope3 zmi feels quite useless... but that may be because i'm used to all of the functionality that the zope2 zmi provides | 16:27 |
| srichter | we really should switch to the Boston skin by default | 16:27 |
| srichter | and btw, Limi did do Rotterdam back then | 16:28 |
| rocky | my guess is rotterdam has, um, evolved since then ;) | 16:28 |
| srichter | no, not much at all | 16:28 |
| srichter | because none of the core Zope 3 developers understands it | 16:29 |
| efrerich | yota: I use poedit. In poedit you can say where the source (= Zope 3) is so you can get exactly the line of the module where the message comes from | 16:29 |
| efrerich | so you have the context | 16:29 |
| rocky | srichter: why hasn't zope3 switched to boston yet? | 16:29 |
| srichter | there were some reservations earlier about its completeness but it is much better off now | 16:29 |
| projekt01 | rocky, nobody change the configure zcml ;-) | 16:29 |
| rocky | lol | 16:30 |
| srichter | yeah, I think this is the main reason | 16:30 |
| efrerich | (but sometimes it is difficult to find the exakt meaning) | 16:30 |
| rocky | the bug tracker included with zope3 is (UI-wise) baaaad ;) | 16:31 |
| rocky | Poi is nice | 16:31 |
| srichter | I like my bugtracker | 16:32 |
| projekt01 | rocky, feel free, to improve it | 16:32 |
| srichter | it is not totally polished, i.e. I would do some things different now, but I think it is very usable to me | 16:32 |
| srichter | in fact, Roger and I installed it for a project last night | 16:32 |
| rocky | srichter: i mentioned UI tho... i haven't tried its functionality yet... could be every developers dream ;) | 16:33 |
| srichter | no it is not | 16:33 |
| srichter | but it fits my brain and needs | 16:33 |
| yota | efrerich: I translated only 1 sentence in the site directly and my new translation was transformed on suggestion and not translation | 16:33 |
| rocky | projekt01: i would never dare trying to improve a UI ... i would make things worse ;) | 16:33 |
| srichter | specifically dependency specification and statistical analysis | 16:33 |
| projekt01 | rocky, ;-) | 16:34 |
| rocky | srichter: curious why you didn't use something like Trac | 16:34 |
| srichter | but there is a lot to do still | 16:34 |
| srichter | because it would have been much more time to setup | 16:34 |
| rocky | really? i always found Trac a breeze to get up and running | 16:34 |
| rocky | you're right tho, the boston skin is soooo much nicer than the rotterdam skin | 16:35 |
| projekt01 | rocky, we need just SVN support for the bugtracker, then we have all what Trac does. | 16:35 |
| efrerich | yota: ah | 16:35 |
| srichter | ok, I am going to spend more time explaining than it took yesterday to setup; we had Zope 3 trunk installed and running, so all we had to do is create a bugtracker instance and make a DNS entry | 16:36 |
| rocky | projekt01: umm... not quite =P | 16:36 |
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| rocky | srichter: oh sorry, thought you meant "writing your own bug tracker software in zope3" VS "configuring and setting up trac" | 16:36 |
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| srichter | rocky: oh no! :-) | 16:45 |
| volvox | are there zope3 things (papers, sprints, whatever) foreseen for europython? | 16:53 |
| projekt01 | volvox, many unit and doctests are included in the source code | 16:58 |
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| projekt01 | volvox, there is also a tutorial from jim somewhere at: | 16:59 |
| projekt01 | http://www.zope.org/DevHome/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/FrontPage | 16:59 |
| volvox | well, I worded it incorrectly, I mean... I am going to europython in Geneve and I'd like to buy some core developers a barrel of beer :-) | 17:11 |
| projekt01 | volvox, I'd like vodka not beer ;-) | 17:16 |
| projekt01 | volvox, perhaps srichter or philiKON have some papers or presentations | 17:17 |
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