IRC log of #zope3-dev for Thursday, 2006-06-08

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romanofskimoin :)09:38
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projekt01Is it possible to run Zope3 on port 8080 and Apache on 443 (SSL)?15:25
mgedminyes, why not?15:26
projekt01Or is this not possible because of the HTTP/1.0 status in the response?15:26
projekt01I get each time a popup box telling me that I have untrusted objects in the page.15:26
* mgedmin does not see what HTTP status codes have to do with TCP port numbers15:26
projekt01The only thing I can see is the HTTP/1.0 status in the reponse.15:27
mgedminprojekt01: do you use an apache rewrite rule? what does it look like?15:27
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mgedmindoes it say ++vh++https:whatever.com:443/++ ?15:27
projekt01RewriteRule (/?.*) http://i.p:8080/++skin++Recruiter/++vh++https:sv1.foobar.ch:443/++$1 [P,L]15:28
mgedminhmm15:28
projekt01It works correct except the unsecure object message15:28
mgedmindo you know where that one comes from?15:28
mgedminis there a link to an http:// resource in the page source?15:28
projekt01I double check this...15:29
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projekt01mgedmin, only in the doctype and the html tag xml namespace15:31
mgedminis that a publicly accessible site?15:32
projekt01mgemin, it's just a IE problem it works in firefox15:32
projekt01no it's not public ;-(15:33
* mgedmin gives up then15:34
srichterbut the test site is public15:34
mgedminwouldn't it be fun to discover this is caused by the reference in the doctype declaration?15:34
* mgedmin does not think even MSIE could be that stupid, though15:35
srichterLOL15:35
srichterI checked15:35
srichterthe only http:// occurences are the XML NS references15:35
mgedminmaybe 'untrusted' means MSIE does not trust the SSL certificate?15:36
mgedminis it self-signed?15:36
srichteryeah15:38
srichterit is not registered at this point15:38
srichterthat could be it, but I know as much about IE as you do :-)15:38
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projekt01mgedmin, yes it's self-signed right now, but in one of the two skins it's working.15:41
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mgedminah! maybe the skin refers to some absolute URLs?15:43
mgedminsay, some .css file has url("http://...")15:43
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projekt01there is no http:// url15:52
projekt01mgedmin, this is interesting, if I don't accept the unsecure object I don't get logged in.15:53
projekt01This means something with the auth cookie is not as it should be15:53
projekt01Do I have to set a special cipher15:54
projekt01I'm using this right now:15:55
projekt01SSLCipherSuite ALL:!ADH:!EXPORT56:RC4+RSA:+HIGH:+MEDIUM:+LOW:+SSLv2:+EXP:+eNULL15:55
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ignasIMHO menu item infrastructure is insane16:31
ignashaving a method available() that suggests that one might override it to make his menu item appear only when it is needed and at the same time requiring a custom ZCML directive to register a menu with a different class is not a good idea :/16:32
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projekt01ignas, the menu item part needs a BIG refatoring16:43
volvoxis this refactoring foreseen in some release?16:48
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ignasi'd go for "replaced with a nice viewlet based abstraction for doing menus" instead of "refactoring and leaving the current API in place"16:53
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mgedminis using ContainedProxy a very bad idea?21:20
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Theunimgedmin:  as far as i understand proxies are evil (tm) and should be avoided ... :)21:41
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mgedminyeah...21:46
SteveAcontainers are evil too21:46
SteveA:-)21:46
SteveAso a double dose of evil21:46
mgedminwhy are containers evil?21:47
whitthought zope3 was suppose to not be "evil"21:47
zbirall software is evil21:47
whitamen21:48
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Theuniapropos evil21:59
Theuniwhy does INameChooser.checkName is supposed to raise an exception instead of returning False?21:59
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