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| baijum | Yesterday I send a mail to zope3-dev@zope.org, but it's not reached in the list, now re-send it, but still I cann't see that. | 06:42 | 
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| __mac__ | hi, I was offline for a some days and i wonder what happened to the zope3-maillists? | 11:18 | 
| baijum | __mac__: I think only for zope3-dev | 11:30 | 
| baijum | I send a mail to jim fulton now regarding this problem, can any one else confirm this? | 11:33 | 
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| b_52CEntos | ------ | 13:48 | 
| b_52CEntos | 2 2003-06-02T20:09:13 INFO PublisherHTTPServer zope.server.http (HTTP) started. | 13:48 | 
| b_52CEntos | 3 Hostname: localhost | 13:48 | 
| b_52CEntos | 4 Port: 8080 | 13:48 | 
| b_52CEntos | 5 ------ | 13:48 | 
| b_52CEntos | i got this but i can't reach my zope | 13:48 | 
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| baijum | b_52CEntos: are you accessing http://localhost:8080 from same machine? | 14:03 | 
| b_52CEntos | baijum, yes | 14:04 | 
| baijum | what is the error output? | 14:05 | 
| b_52CEntos | no error | 14:06 | 
| b_52CEntos | ./runzope | 14:06 | 
| b_52CEntos | ------ | 14:06 | 
| b_52CEntos | 2006-06-12T10:38:29 INFO root -- HTTP:localhost:8080 Server started. | 14:06 | 
| b_52CEntos | Hostname: localhost | 14:06 | 
| b_52CEntos | Port: 8080 | 14:06 | 
| b_52CEntos | ------ | 14:06 | 
| b_52CEntos | 2006-06-12T10:38:29 INFO root Startup time: 16.168 sec real, 11.102 sec CPU | 14:06 | 
| rocky | sounds like a firewall issue | 14:08 | 
| rocky | b_52CEntos: try doing "telnet localhost 8080" | 14:08 | 
| b_52CEntos | telnet localhost 8080 | 14:09 | 
| b_52CEntos | Trying 127.0.0.1... | 14:09 | 
| b_52CEntos | telnet: connect to address 127.0.0.1: Can't assign requested address | 14:09 | 
| b_52CEntos | telnet: Unable to connect to remote host | 14:09 | 
| rocky | heh, sounds like you have your 'lo' device messed up somehow | 14:09 | 
| rocky | b_52CEntos: can you connect to any network service running on localhost ? | 14:10 | 
| b_52CEntos | rocky, i don't have any service connected to localhost ; except zope ; may be that will explain why sendmail is cryng this days ... | 14:11 | 
| b_52CEntos | :) | 14:11 | 
| rocky | haha, most likely | 14:11 | 
| rocky | b_52CEntos: paste your /etc/hosts file to zope3.pastebin.com | 14:11 | 
| b_52CEntos | ok | 14:11 | 
| b_52CEntos | rocky, http://zope3.pastebin.com/704098 | 14:13 | 
| rocky | lol, FreeBSD | 14:13 | 
| rocky | b_52CEntos: i figured for sure you'd be running CentOS Linux | 14:13 | 
| rocky | FreeBSD is out of my realm, sorry, but it does seem as though you really have the network misconfigured on the machine | 14:14 | 
| b_52CEntos | rocky, yeah ; but having multimedia package in centos 3.x ; it's a full time job :) | 14:14 | 
| * rocky runs CentOS 4.x on his production servers | 14:14 | |
| b_52CEntos | :) | 14:14 | 
| rocky | b_52CEntos: basically you need to hack your box until you can get *any* network service running properly ... at which point zope3 should run fine | 14:15 | 
| rocky | b_52CEntos: is the name of your box f-15.belkin ? | 14:15 | 
| b_52CEntos | rocky, hm ok ; thanks for the help | 14:15 | 
| b_52CEntos | rocky, f-15 yes :) | 14:16 | 
| rocky | b_52CEntos: try doing "telnet 192.168.2.20 8080" when you have zope3 running and see what it says | 14:16 | 
| b_52CEntos | rocky, telnet 192.168.2.20 8080 | 14:18 | 
| b_52CEntos | Trying 192.168.2.20... | 14:18 | 
| b_52CEntos | telnet: connect to address 192.168.2.20: Operation timed out | 14:18 | 
| b_52CEntos | telnet: Unable to connect to remote host | 14:18 | 
| rocky | yuck ;) | 14:18 | 
| rocky | oh well... i tried, i failed, i moved on ;) | 14:19 | 
| b_52CEntos | :^ | 14:19 | 
| * rocky recommends b_52CEntos get out his freebsd owner's manual ;) | 14:19 | |
| b_52CEntos | yeah :) | 14:19 | 
| b_52CEntos | rocky, thanks for the help by the way | 14:20 | 
| rocky | np | 14:20 | 
| rocky | for purposes of learning zope you might just want to pull up a spare windows or linux box and throw zope onto it for testing purposes ... i know zope2's favourite platforms are windows and linux | 14:20 | 
| rocky | not dissing freebsd or anything, but many more in the zope community run macosx/windows/linux | 14:21 | 
| * b_52CEntos offer rocky a Freebsd Box :^ | 14:21 | |
| rocky | i *had* freebsd installed here in vmware on my ubuntu workstation ... may still be installed, not sure | 14:22 | 
| baijum | Hello, I tried something now in debian the same problem for me here, this is what I did, #ifconfig lo down then 'runzope' now server started but cannot connect to http://localhost:8080/ | 14:26 | 
| baijum | no error in background | 14:26 | 
| b_52CEntos | i don't how you could connect if you put it down | 14:26 | 
| baijum | so check your lo is up | 14:26 | 
| baijum | i did it | 14:26 | 
| baijum | though, I have other interfaces (eth0) | 14:27 | 
| b_52CEntos | can you past your lo parameters ; i need to copy them :) | 14:27 | 
| baijum | how to get parameters, I only did 'ifconfig lo down' then started zope3 (runzope) | 14:29 | 
| baijum | this is not FreeBSD | 14:29 | 
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| b_52CEntos | it work finnaly ; just fix the loppback setting .... | 14:34 | 
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| volvox | philiKON: i see there are z3 sprints for europython. when? can a neeb possibly attend and be useful? | 15:33 | 
| philiKON | sure | 15:34 | 
| philiKON | we are planning on sprinting the weekend before the conf | 15:34 | 
| philiKON | sat + sund | 15:34 | 
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| volvox | with neeb i mean: i have 8 yrs experience with python, just not as deep as it needs to be a core dev or anything like that | 15:34 | 
| philiKON | no problem | 15:35 | 
| volvox | so I should be there 31/6 ? | 15:35 | 
| philiKON | spritns are also there to learn | 15:35 | 
| philiKON | there is no 31/6 :) | 15:35 | 
| volvox | ouch | 15:35 | 
| volvox | it's been stolen already. ok, saturday morning? | 15:36 | 
| philiKON | yep | 15:36 | 
| philiKON | that's my current planning so far | 15:37 | 
| philiKON | i'm not organizing anything, really | 15:37 | 
| volvox | is there something after the conference also? | 15:37 | 
| philiKON | i'm just saying that i'd like to sprint | 15:37 | 
| philiKON | probably | 15:37 | 
| philiKON | not sure | 15:37 | 
| philiKON | i won't have time | 15:37 | 
| volvox | so I'll book the hotel a few days more, and at the worst i'll tourist myself around | 15:37 | 
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| philiKON | k :) | 15:39 | 
| volvox | count on me. available for cleaning/cooking also | 15:40 | 
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| dwoo | Could someone please help me with a skin problem I'm having? | 17:46 | 
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| dwoo | I get a ConfigurationError: ('Invalid value for', 'type', 'ImportError: Module zope.publisher.interfaces.browser has no global IBrowserSkinType') when I try to register the skin as an interface in /browser/skin/configure.zcml | 17:51 | 
| philiKON | dwoo, which zope version? | 17:53 | 
| dwoo | How do you tell? | 17:55 | 
| philiKON | zope.app/version.txt | 17:55 | 
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| dwoo | I'm sorry, where is that? | 17:59 | 
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| philiKON | dwoo, uh, where you installed it?!? | 18:00 | 
| philiKON | dwoo, alternatively, you can go to localhost:8080/++etc++process and see the version nuimber there, i think | 18:01 | 
| dwoo | It says Development/Unknown there. | 18:05 | 
| philiKON | you using svn checkout? | 18:06 | 
| dwoo | Yes. | 18:07 | 
| philiKON | well, what branch and how old is it? | 18:08 | 
| dwoo | I just did an svn up, so it's whatever the latest version is. | 18:08 | 
| philiKON | what branch? | 18:08 | 
| dwoo | the trunk | 18:09 | 
| philiKON | weird | 18:10 | 
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| volvox | re: the europython sprint, the italian i18n has a huge need for a rewrite. i'd rather learn something from y'all, but maybe I could be more useful in translating, if I can have some feedback while doing it, it would be good | 18:38 | 
| philiKON | volvox, have you ever been at a sprint? | 18:39 | 
| volvox | nope, does it show? | 18:39 | 
| philiKON | a bit :) | 18:40 | 
| philiKON | volvox, at sprints, we always pair | 18:40 | 
| philiKON | two people, one computer | 18:40 | 
| philiKON | a good combination is an expert and a newcomer | 18:40 | 
| volvox | who says I could not pair with somebody? :-) | 18:40 | 
| philiKON | that's the point. you should | 18:40 | 
| philiKON | newcomers especially should pair with an experted | 18:40 | 
| philiKON | expert | 18:40 | 
| baldtrol | g'day all ;) ...quick question. i've built a set of events and subscribers and am quite happy with the way they're working. but in doing so, it occurred to me that i don't really know for sure when and where IObjectCreatedEvent and the rest really ought to be notified, and when the machinery notifies them automatically. | 18:41 | 
| volvox | i does from the container, usually | 18:41 | 
| volvox | s/i/it | 18:41 | 
| philiKON | volvox, not really | 18:41 | 
| philiKON | baldtrol, object events should be thrown by the component doing something to the componnt | 18:42 | 
| philiKON | e.g. IObjectMOdifiedEvent should be thrown by the piece of cod ethat changes the object | 18:42 | 
| volvox | ok, it could be not contained, right | 18:42 | 
| philiKON | IObjectCreatedEvent is hence thrown by the component that creates the object | 18:42 | 
| baldtrol | ok, that's what i thought, but i wasn't sure | 18:42 | 
| philiKON | (the addform usually) | 18:42 | 
| philiKON | IObjectaddedEvent is thrown by the container | 18:43 | 
| baldtrol | like, i've built a registration utility where users can sign up, and on activation, they have some default content created for them. i should notify IObjectCreatedEvent on the objects i build for those users then, yes/no? | 18:43 | 
| philiKON | yes | 18:44 | 
| philiKON | if you're instantiating the objects | 18:44 | 
| philiKON | you should throw the events | 18:44 | 
| baldtrol | yessir | 18:44 | 
| philiKON | as said, the code that does things to objects shoudl also throw the events | 18:44 | 
| baldtrol | ok... and that's necessary for other bits that need to know, like IntIds, etc? | 18:45 | 
| philiKON | yeah, like catalog indices and such | 18:46 | 
| baldtrol | cool... thank you sir | 18:47 | 
| philiKON | np | 18:47 | 
| baldtrol | oh! i have another question. and it may just be that it was like 3am when i was staring at it last night... i created an interface for a form with formlib, but the sequence widget in 3.2.1 keeps throwing me an error on len(sequence) | 18:50 | 
| volvox | philiKON, i will try with the translation, the trouble is I know nobody which uses z3 in italy, nobody that can check the work I do. do you know somebody? | 18:50 | 
| volvox | baldtrol: which file and line? | 18:50 | 
| baldtrol | arg, brb | 18:51 | 
| philiKON | baldtrol, it might be because your default vlaue is None | 18:51 | 
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| philiKON | volvox, man, a sprint is for coding, not for translating things | 18:51 | 
| philiKON | let translations be handled by noncoders | 18:52 | 
| philiKON | or at least total noobs | 18:52 | 
| volvox | been there | 18:52 | 
| philiKON | if you have the possibility to attend a sprint, do something exciting :) | 18:52 | 
| volvox | done that | 18:52 | 
| volvox | the current one is done by a t.n. | 18:52 | 
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| baldtrol | volox: to answer you question from before (sorry, i was on a call), it's in zope.app.form.browser.sequencwidget under _getRenderedValue, line 128. | 19:36 | 
| baldtrol | and philiKON... under value_type in my list, i have textline with a default of u''... does my List need a default too? | 19:36 | 
| philiKON | baldtrol, no, i mean the default on your content object | 19:37 | 
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| baldtrol | hmm... that's an interesting bit, actually. i'm not using a content object here... i'm using formlib to build a form that i need to run a test against a particular URL. in pure tal, i did it as a form method="get" against the url i wanted, but i'm trying to duplicate the same form using formlib. | 19:39 | 
| philiKON | hmm | 19:39 | 
| philiKON | no idea then | 19:39 | 
| baldtrol | the interface is merely a representation of the form fields i want. formlib allows me to have the error handling and such done by posting back to myself first, then running the get from my @form.action | 19:40 | 
| philiKON | yup | 19:40 | 
| baldtrol | or, i should say "i want it to allow." so far i haven't gotten it to, but i assume that's because i'm missing something in either building my interfaces, or something about the way formlib's handing my interface back to the default sequence widget | 19:41 | 
| philiKON | you should check what the widget gets for setRenderedValue | 19:41 | 
| baldtrol | hmmm. i saw that further up in the traceback. i'll look at it. | 19:42 | 
| baldtrol | if i can't get it to work, isn't it just a matter of overriding setUpWidgets? | 19:49 | 
| philiKON | possibly | 19:49 | 
| baldtrol | well "just" in the sense that i don't know *how* to do that, but i can read form.txt and such until i get it | 19:50 | 
| baldtrol | "possibly" makes me afraid :D | 19:51 | 
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