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| fcorrea | Hi srs. Can anyone help me on how to implement a catalog in a SomeFolder(IPossibleSite, IContainer)? I see lots of emails on the list and I am trying to the get the whole idea. Is the catalog a container type that you can add/create indices and query those index? | 00:11 |
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| fcorrea | Another issue is that everyone says that I need to create a IntId utility to register this catalog witch I believe is a utility with a unique id....any docs or links on how to create one? | 00:12 |
| philiKON | fcorrea, goto ++etc++site of your site and create an IntId utility (from the Add menu) | 00:13 |
| philiKON | same for Catalog | 00:13 |
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| fcorrea | philiKON: I am wondering on how to do that on fs. Cause the whole product is in fs...something automatic that when you add the SomeFolder(IPossibleSite, IContainer), it creates what needs it | 00:14 |
| philiKON | ah | 00:15 |
| fcorrea | philiKON: programatically I meant.. | 00:15 |
| philiKON | well, looking at the doctests should help :) | 00:15 |
| philiKON | fcorrea, are you on zope 3.3? | 00:15 |
| fcorrea | yep | 00:15 |
| philiKON | then registration is pretty easy | 00:15 |
| philiKON | yoursite.getSiteManager().registerUtility(the_intid_utility, ...) | 00:16 |
| philiKON | yoursite.getSiteManager().registerUtility(the_catalog, ...) | 00:16 |
| fcorrea | philiKON: I had a look on the doctests. Does it help with the IntId utility? I need something to help me with that... | 00:16 |
| fcorrea | philiKON: ahhh....great | 00:16 |
| philiKON | of course, first yoursite needs to be a real sie | 00:16 |
| philiKON | real site | 00:16 |
| philiKON | so, you'll want to create a site manager, and do | 00:16 |
| philiKON | yourseite.setSiteManager(a_site_manager) | 00:17 |
| fcorrea | philiKON: what about the utility creation? Some place where I can look at? | 00:17 |
| philiKON | and then you'll want to do | 00:17 |
| philiKON | z.i.alsoProvides(yoursiete, ISite) | 00:17 |
| philiKON | fcorrea, just instantiate it?!? | 00:17 |
| philiKON | fcorrea, and of course, stuff it into some folder | 00:17 |
| philiKON | doesn't really matter where it is | 00:17 |
| fcorrea | IPossibleSite doesn't implements ISIte? | 00:17 |
| philiKON | no | 00:18 |
| fcorrea | mmm....k | 00:18 |
| philiKON | doh, it's just a possible site | 00:18 |
| philiKON | not site yet :) | 00:18 |
| fcorrea | :D | 00:18 |
| fcorrea | ok...I'll get there | 00:18 |
| philiKON | you can put the catalog and intid utility inside the site manager or a site management folder | 00:18 |
| philiKON | but you don't have to | 00:18 |
| philiKON | just make sure they're contained somewhere | 00:18 |
| philiKON | (best is to use zope.app.container.contained.* for this, as described in my book) | 00:18 |
| philiKON | to sum up: | 00:19 |
| fcorrea | ya. I want to put it in the container cause I want to restrict the results of the catalog in that folder(site).....cause I'll have lots of site in a given zope instance | 00:19 |
| philiKON | 1. instantiate the utility (catalog, int id) | 00:19 |
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| philiKON | 2. contain it somewhere (e.g. in a folder) | 00:19 |
| philiKON | 3. register it with the site manager | 00:19 |
| philiKON | fcorrea, well, the contained location of the catalog won't matter as much as where it's *registered* | 00:20 |
| fcorrea | philiKON: great. I know how to contain things in zope3. I just need to know how to instanciate the utility....do you cover that on your book? I have that | 00:21 |
| philiKON | well, dunno | 00:21 |
| philiKON | instantiating the utility is easy | 00:21 |
| philiKON | from zope.app.catalog.catalog import Catalog | 00:21 |
| philiKON | c = Catalog() | 00:21 |
| philiKON | :) | 00:21 |
| fcorrea | :) there you go | 00:21 |
| fcorrea | ahh....really? | 00:22 |
| philiKON | why not | 00:22 |
| philiKON | i really dunno | 00:22 |
| philiKON | look at the tests!! | 00:22 |
| philiKON | that's what they're there for | 00:22 |
| fcorrea | I thought that I needed to do a bunch of zcml stuff to use the catalog in a search form for example | 00:22 |
| philiKON | to demonstrate example usage | 00:22 |
| philiKON | well, you'll need to register the search form that queries the catalog :) | 00:23 |
| fcorrea | philiKON: man...believe it. I looked and actaully practiced them....I just don't know how to tie things...just that | 00:23 |
| fcorrea | philiKON: Thank you very much | 00:28 |
| philiKON | np :) | 00:28 |
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| drmikecrowe | Hi folks, anybody awake ? :) | 03:44 |
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| guruz | hello | 11:20 |
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| guruz | i have written my own traversal adapter that returns a object when a specific string is requested. however, i am getting: | 11:55 |
| guruz | 'There isn't enough context to get URL information. This is probably due to a bug in setting up location information.' | 11:56 |
| guruz | what should i do? | 11:56 |
| philiKON | the object that's returned doesn't have proper __parent__ pointers | 11:58 |
| philiKON | well, actually, it doesn't have an IPhysicallyLocatable adapter | 11:58 |
| philiKON | ILocation objects have __parent__ pointers. there's an IPhysicallyLocatable adapter for ILocation object | 11:59 |
| philiKON | s | 11:59 |
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| guruz | uhm | 12:04 |
| guruz | thanks..but.. can you explain me what to do exactly? :\ | 12:04 |
| philiKON | guruz, make your object adaptable to IPhysicallyLocatable | 12:09 |
| philiKON | either you yourself write an adapter for the object | 12:09 |
| philiKON | or you make it provide ILocation | 12:09 |
| philiKON | then it will get zope's default adapter | 12:09 |
| guruz | hm. implements (ILocation) does not help. hmmm. | 12:12 |
| guruz | or maybe | 12:13 |
| guruz | hmm | 12:13 |
| guruz | *testing* | 12:13 |
| philiKON | it won't help by itself | 12:14 |
| philiKON | ILocation is a contract | 12:14 |
| philiKON | for __parent__ | 12:14 |
| philiKON | you'll have to fulfill that ocntract | 12:14 |
| philiKON | you'll need to set __parent__ | 12:14 |
| philiKON | guruz, got my book? | 12:14 |
| SteveA | IMO, __parent__ and all that is an onerous contract | 12:19 |
| SteveA | and shouldn't be a Zope 3 core thing | 12:19 |
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| regebro | Hello all. | 15:21 |
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| regebro | This is Zope2 really, but the question is general enough to actually be valid for Zope3 too. | 15:22 |
| regebro | Normally when you do a log rotation and delete the file you are logging too, this seems to cause no particular problems. | 15:23 |
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| regebro | But tonight the server seems to have crashed/restarted when this happened. | 15:23 |
| regebro | The difference was that we had a very long running process going on (reindexing everything). | 15:23 |
| benji | linux? | 15:24 |
| regebro | Yup. | 15:24 |
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| regebro | Normally in Linux the file doesn't get deleted until all processes has closed, so... | 15:24 |
| regebro | bt still.. maybe there is something weird anyway. | 15:24 |
| benji | so you delete the log file and then HUP the server? | 15:24 |
| regebro | Nom just delete the log file. | 15:25 |
| benji | and then restart | 15:25 |
| benji | ? | 15:25 |
| benji | (i.e. how does a new log file get created?) | 15:25 |
| regebro | As I understand it, no. It gets reopened. | 15:26 |
| benji | ahh, Zope opens/closes the file regularly | 15:26 |
| regebro | Actually, we do bin/zopectl logreopen. :) | 15:26 |
| benji | Ok | 15:27 |
| benji | nope, I can't imagine that causing a problem | 15:27 |
| regebro | (I think, I have yet to find the actual script used in this case). | 15:27 |
| regebro | Even with a process running? | 15:27 |
| benji | define "a process" | 15:28 |
| regebro | Well, a request going on, I mean. | 15:29 |
| regebro | We are gonna try again without doing logreopen in any case. | 15:31 |
| benji | there /might/ be a bug that was triggered by rotating the logs during a request, but I seriously doubt it had anything to do with the file deletion, more of a problem internal to Zope | 15:31 |
| SteveA | i just found a bug in the access log output | 15:31 |
| SteveA | a " character in the URL query string is not escaped at all | 15:32 |
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| regebro | benji: OK, that actually makes sense. :) | 15:37 |
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| benji | heh :) | 15:47 |
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| regebro | I've tried to force a local zope to fail by calling logreopen on a reindex (that takes 45 seconds here, not 45 hours as the real case). | 15:57 |
| regebro | I did while true; do bin/zopectl logrepoen; done. | 15:58 |
| regebro | Major effect: The reindex was FASTER!? | 15:58 |
| regebro | :) | 15:58 |
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| MacYET_ | morning | 16:52 |
| hdima | MacYET_: evening :-) | 16:54 |
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| fcorrea | good morning/evening srs. | 16:58 |
| fcorrea | I am a little bit confuse here with a site implementation. I have a SomeSite that implements IPossibleSite. I want to make it implements ISite. What i have to do? I need to do that cause I want to register a catalog in it | 17:00 |
| MacYET_ | ICanBeReleaseSoon.providedBy(Zope3.3)? | 17:02 |
| fcorrea | like this: ISomeSite(IPossibleSite, IContainer) and its implementation: SomeSite(BTreeContainer) implements(ISomeSite, ISite)...but this doest not make is a site | 17:04 |
| fcorrea | Any clues? | 17:04 |
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| faassen | hello | 17:14 |
| fcorrea | hello | 17:15 |
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| SteveA | faassen: hello | 17:26 |
| faassen | I'm at the europython zope 3 sprint. | 17:27 |
| faassen | I'm the whole sprint all by myself. | 17:28 |
| faassen | so you better be nice to me or I'll just cancel the whole sprint right now. :) | 17:28 |
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| MacYET_ | self-sprinting...very efficient | 17:29 |
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| faassen | sorry about that. | 17:29 |
| MacYET_ | you canceled yourself? :) | 17:29 |
| faassen | no, I just am not very familiar with this irc client. | 17:30 |
| whit | faassen: howdy | 17:30 |
| faassen | so does anybody know of any code somewhere that can collect all modules in a package, including subpackages? | 17:30 |
| faassen | importing the modules while it's doing the collection is fine, in fact that's what I need. | 17:30 |
| whit | faasen: you've recently done the egg dance so you might be able to answer this question... | 17:36 |
| faassen | possibly.. | 17:36 |
| faassen | quite possibly not. :) | 17:36 |
| whit | I've made a couple packages into eggs. they install in develop mode fine, but zopectl test can't find the tests | 17:36 |
| rocky | its amusing how *everyone* wants to use eggs in zope these days but zope just ain't there yet ;) | 17:36 |
| whit | yeah, I'm thinking about rolling the non-python only part back | 17:37 |
| faassen | I saw that a recipe using zc.buildout using eggs was released. anyway.. | 17:38 |
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| faassen | whit, in zope 3 you can pass an argument to the test runner that I don't remember right now. | 17:38 |
| whit | it seems to work fine, I just can't run my tests | 17:38 |
| faassen | but to actually specify a directory to look into. | 17:38 |
| whit | sort of puts a crimp in my dev style | 17:38 |
| faassen | and if you specify the stuff in your svn checkout.. | 17:39 |
| whit | ah | 17:39 |
| faassen | it'll find the tests. | 17:39 |
| whit | it doesn't just find things on the sys.path? | 17:39 |
| faassen | I forget the argument, and I don't kknow whether you can add the dir in Zope 2.. hm. let me see whether I can find the arg. | 17:39 |
| faassen | no, eggs are scary and sys.path doesn't contain a list of modules that *could* be there. | 17:39 |
| faassen | I mean, Zope doesn't import all possible modules when starting up. | 17:39 |
| whit | right | 17:39 |
| faassen | so the test runner will need to thrawl through directories the old fashioned way. | 17:39 |
| faassen | and it won't be able to find the egg dir. | 17:39 |
| faassen | because the egg install acts by some kind of spooky action at a distance scary site.py pth stuff. | 17:40 |
| whit | which also seems to be why python setup.py test won't find zope.testing | 17:40 |
| faassen | the physics reference is because I'm at CERN | 17:40 |
| whit | faasen: appropriate though ;) | 17:41 |
| whit | you splitting some atoms today? | 17:41 |
| faassen | I can't find the reference just like that, to the --add-stuff. | 17:41 |
| faassen | generally CERN doesn't deign to consider something as large as *atoms* | 17:41 |
| whit | I can dig. helps to know it's actually there | 17:41 |
| faassen | it's subatomic all the way man.. | 17:41 |
| whit | muons? | 17:41 |
| faassen | in zope 3 it's possible. | 17:42 |
| faassen | dunno about zope 2. | 17:42 |
| faassen | I don't know, I'm sure they do stuff with atoms here too.. | 17:42 |
| faassen | like, this table is probably made of atoms. | 17:42 |
| faassen | unless it's made of CERN produced unstable protomatter. | 17:42 |
| whit | best not to bet the farm ;) | 17:42 |
| faassen | I so much told Kirk's son not to use protomatter in his experiments. | 17:42 |
| rocky | lol | 17:43 |
| faassen | anyway, I tried to do the 'find the geeks' trick here | 17:43 |
| faassen | to find any other possible europython people around. | 17:43 |
| faassen | though it appears I'm the earliest one. | 17:43 |
| * rocky mutters something about protomatter being yesterday's news and omega being the real dangerous substance to use | 17:43 | |
| faassen | anyway, that trick doesn't work here. | 17:43 |
| faassen | asalmost everybody is a geek here. | 17:43 |
| faassen | I asked for directions this morning.. | 17:44 |
| whit | isn't geek a relative term? | 17:44 |
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| faassen | and I could've asked it of people involved in brane theory or nobel prize winners or whatever. | 17:44 |
| faassen | could be the janitor.. it's just hard to tell. | 17:44 |
| rocky | whit: good point ... on this channel i probably wouldn't be classified as a geek... relatively speaking :) | 17:44 |
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| rocky | but in the context of my home town, my geek-ometer goes through the roof ;) | 17:45 |
| faassen | I wonder in which of these buildings they're keeping the anti gravity glider. | 17:45 |
| whit | the computer ownership really marks you | 17:45 |
| faassen | they have lots and lots of buildings. | 17:46 |
| whit | ooooohhh | 17:46 |
| faassen | so they *could* have an anti gravity glider thing. | 17:46 |
| whit | yeah, they play with on their lunch break | 17:46 |
| whit | it | 17:46 |
| faassen | hey! | 17:46 |
| faassen | I just saw a newborn walk by. | 17:46 |
| whit | and laugh at the hapless world of non-physics geeks | 17:46 |
| faassen | must be Web 2.0. | 17:47 |
| faassen | after all, it's CERN, where the web was born. | 17:47 |
| whit | that's right | 17:47 |
| faassen | it has a cool outfit. | 17:47 |
| whit | they gave us the scourge of HTML | 17:47 |
| faassen | ajax all the way. | 17:47 |
| faassen | anyway, I'll stop babbling. | 17:47 |
| faassen | see you later. :) | 17:48 |
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| edgordon | is there an addon 'Image' field type for z3? | 18:32 |
| whit | is there any major difference between the zope210 testrunner and the zope3 testrunner? | 18:32 |
| * whit punts | 18:33 | |
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| roym | am I right in assuming that a newly installed z3 instance will only | 20:09 |
| roym | accept basic-authentication and that to enable cookie based sessions, | 20:09 |
| roym | one needs to add a PAU with its own set of users (in Principal | 20:09 |
| roym | Folders)? | 20:09 |
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| baldtrol | roym: that's pretty much correct. | 20:25 |
| roym | baldtrol: thanks. | 20:27 |
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| baldtrol | np man. | 20:30 |
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| baldtrol | srichter: i'm pretty sure i saw a soap implementation of yours based on ZSI at one point... but i can't find it in the svn now | 22:58 |
| baldtrol | that may be because i'm bad at finding things though :B | 22:59 |
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| edgordon | is there any existing products that expand your field options when making new content types? Files and images, for example? | 23:57 |
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