IRC log of #zope3-dev for Tuesday, 2006-10-03

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rockyhrm, was IVocabularyFactory introduced with zope 3.3 ?00:41
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koboldHello, I have a doubt about zope.dublincore.zopedublincore: I do not understand why inst._changed is called **before** performing the modification of the inst._mapping10:35
koboldI'm writing adapters to store annotations on a RDBMS, and I need to catch the changes but the _changed method called before the modification is not useful.10:37
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koboldLet's try again, I have a doubt about zope.dublincore.zopedublincore: I do not understand why inst._changed is called **before** performing the modification of the inst._mapping ... I'm writing adapters to store annotations on a RDBMS, and I need to catch the changes but the _changed method called before the modification is not useful.13:17
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scherandHi, does anybody know if/where I could find more documentation for sqlos than on http://codespeak.net/z3/sqlos/index.html? Or is it a "read the code" thing (that's what I tried until now :))?16:06
jintyscherand: have a look at the ftesting.zcml, that's more or less a mini application16:07
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scherandjinty: I did. But I am struggling with the connection-part. I have my test app running so far. Now I would need to use different connections (to different servers, let's say) for different objects. This should be possible (according to the webpage) but I was not (yet) able to figure out how to do it.16:10
scherandThere is one "sqlos:connectionName" directive. This points to the "rdb:provideConnection" directive with the same name, I assume. But where is the link to my objects?16:12
jintyscherand: sub class SQLOS16:12
jintykinda like this:16:12
jintyclass boboSQLOL:16:12
jinty_connection = ConnectionDescriptor(name='boboconnection')16:13
jintyer sorry class boboSQLOL(SQLOS)16:13
scherandand 'boboconnection' is the "name" attribute of the rdb:provideConnection?16:14
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jintyyep, should be16:14
scherandright.16:14
jintyfeel free to send a patch for the docs;)16:15
scherandso i configure the sql-connection(s) in zcml, not by creating e.g. a myslqdbda-thing in the zmi?16:15
scherandwell, if i get my things up and running, i might send you(?) what i wrote down as documentation for myself. maybe you can use it for something then, you decide.16:17
jintyA patch for the existing readme would be nicer and more maintainable16:17
jintythere is a sqlos mailing list for the patch16:17
scherandok, i could try this as well16:17
jintyI generally stay away from creating rdb connections through the zmi. but it should work as well.16:18
scherandups, my notes are in german right now... i would need some time to translate then... could take a little while16:18
jintyjust small patches for the _really_ important points16:19
scherandcould i reference a "zmi-rdb-connection" in zcml as well? just using the name?16:19
jintyyep16:19
scherandcool16:19
scheranddo you maintain the sqlos webpage?16:19
jintyof course your SQLOS class won't have a connection if you are outside that site16:19
jintyused to16:20
jintykinda still do, but not actively16:20
scherandi think there is a little problem, just wanted to let you know. i'll double check, second...16:20
scherandin "installation" -> "zope3" it says: System Message: WARNING/2 (<string>, line 139); backlink Inline emphasis start-string without end-string. in the middle.16:21
scherand??16:21
jintyhuh??16:22
jintyah yeah, that's a restructured text warning long solved in svn16:23
jintywhen the site is updated, it'll be solved16:24
jintyon the site16:24
scherandok16:24
scherandjust stumbled over it16:24
jintynp:)16:25
* jinty should just not be so lazy16:25
* scherand is happy with what jinty does :)16:27
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faassenJ1m: I wrote a weblog entry about buildout19:18
faassenJ1m: http://faassen.n--tree.net/blog/view/weblog/2006/10/03/019:18
J1mdid you see I fixed the unzipping bug?19:19
J1mthe weblog looks cool.  I'll read it a little later.19:19
faassenJ1m: oh, no, I hadn't seen that. :)19:20
faassenJ1m: what was it? :)19:20
faassenJ1m: cool, thanks!19:20
J1ma logic error.19:20
faassenbecause sometimes they were unzipped and sometimes they weren't.19:21
faassenokay. :)19:21
J1mcould have been a question of when you got them.19:21
J1mThe bug appeared when I took over more work from easy_install.19:21
faassenJ1m: I hope you can delegate more work to easy_install in the future. :)19:21
J1mI now no-longer use easy_install when downloading distributions.19:22
J1mNo, you don't.19:22
J1mIt could be argued though that more of what I'm doing should be in setuptools.19:22
J1mimo, easy_install should be a thin user interface over logic provided by setuptools.19:23
J1mIt does far too much itself.19:23
faassenoh, sure.19:25
faassenwhat I maen is that you can delegate more.19:25
faassento setuptools.19:25
faassenand that easy_install shouldn't be doing anything.19:25
philiKONfaassen, awesome post19:26
faassenphiliKON: on buildout? thanks19:29
philiKONyes19:29
* philiKON didn't realize the cmmi recipe was that easy19:29
philiKONi mean, that it worked with pretty much anythign ;)19:30
faassenphiliKON: yeah, well, I had to fix it so I could pass other config options. :)19:33
faassenphiliKON: but yeah, it's pretty neat. :)19:33
philiKONheehee19:33
faassenphiliKON: someone should upload the egg for it.19:33
faassenanyway, right now it's harder to work with arbitrary distutils packages than it is with cmmi stuff..19:33
faassenlike, python-ldap.. no go.19:33
philiKONyeah :(19:33
faassenI can build the openldap library.19:33
faassenbut then I want to build python-ldap and link it with it, *nasty buzzer sound*19:34
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