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| tgkuo | hi, is there plans that zope 3 replace zope2 ? | 11:57 |
| nouri | There are even plans that Zope 3 takes over the world | 11:58 |
| nouri | Those are all plans, however | 11:58 |
| tgkuo | zope 3 will take over python ? | 11:59 |
| tgkuo | zope 3 will lead python toward better world ? | 12:01 |
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| ChrisW | morning philiKON :-) | 12:19 |
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| d2m | anyone want to give me a hint how to install grok ? | 15:06 |
| d2m | thats what i got: "Installed /usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/grok-0.1-py2.4.egg" -- what is the next step ? | 15:08 |
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| d2m | think i've got that running -- INSTALL.txt is not very clear for first-timers | 15:14 |
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| philiKON | d2m, buildout | 15:31 |
| philiKON | d2m, check it out of SVN | 15:31 |
| philiKON | and follow INSTALL.txt | 15:31 |
| philiKON | basically, you bootstrap the buildout | 15:32 |
| philiKON | and then you make the buildout with bin/buildout | 15:32 |
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| HakTom | hello! can anybody point me to an example, how to implement hurry.workflow or the zope.wfmc stuff within the Zope3 Server on a simple content class? i studied the doctests, but i am not able to use this with my content class | 16:09 |
| HakTom | maybe its my lack o knowledge how to use Utilities, a link to somethink that implements that would help | 16:11 |
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| ignas | HakTom: http://source.schooltool.org/trac/browser/trunk/schooltool/src/schooltool - levels and attendance, not typical, not good, but an example of wfmc | 16:21 |
| ignas | i am afraid that you will have to grok what wfmc is about before doing something right | 16:21 |
| ignas | and doctests won't help you that much ... | 16:21 |
| HakTom | thanks, ignas | 16:22 |
| ignas | in attendance we are using wfmc to enforce the workflow upon the code | 16:22 |
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| ignas | levels are based on wfmc but i am not sure whether wfmc was the right tool for this problem | 16:22 |
| HakTom | ok, i will dig into that, tnx | 16:24 |
| ignas | oh and you should see http://www.enhydra.org/workflow/jawe/index.html | 16:24 |
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| ignas | unless you want to create+validate xpdls manually | 16:25 |
| HakTom | great, i was looking for something like that yesterday! | 16:26 |
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| SmokeyD | Hey people. Where can I find BrowserTestCase in zope 3.1? I can't find it anywhere | 16:56 |
| benji | cscope says: zope.app.testing.functional | 17:00 |
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| SmokeyD | what is cscope? | 17:19 |
| benji | it's a source code indexing/searching tool; like ctags squared | 17:19 |
| benji | (it's only really usefull if integrated with your editor/IDE) | 17:21 |
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| tgkuo | which python version does Zope 3.3.o use ? | 19:06 |
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| tgkuo | there seemed some conflict between plone's python and zope3 ? | 19:08 |
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| tgkuo | can zope 3.3.0 run on python 2.4.3 ? | 19:14 |
| d2m | tgkuo: zope3.3.0 runs on python 2.4.3 | 19:17 |
| tgkuo | zope 3.5 will run on which version ? | 19:17 |
| d2m | tgkuo: ask me in 16 months | 19:18 |
| tgkuo | k :) | 19:18 |
| tgkuo | plone and zope 3 seemed unable to coexist in my environment ... | 19:20 |
| d2m | tgkuo: if you think plone runs on zope3 you are wrong | 19:21 |
| tgkuo | my configuration is both plone/zope2 and zope3 installed ... | 19:22 |
| tgkuo | will that cause the trouble ? | 19:23 |
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| d2m | tgkuo: should be ok | 19:23 |
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| tgkuo | it is not ok for me, some packages conflicted ... zope 3 publisher cann't be run up at another port than 8080 which was used by zope2 for site management. | 19:27 |
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| rocky | anyone know if there's a zope3 convenience api for looking up the actual class/module/package that a string containing a dotted path designates to? | 19:30 |
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| tgkuo | d2m: I see, both zope2 and zope3 use the same file, mkzopeinstance.bat to go ... | 19:31 |
| d2m | tgkuo: configure plone or zope3 to run on a different port (8080 is default setting) | 19:32 |
| tgkuo | d2m: yes, I did, but didn't work. | 19:34 |
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| rocky | philiKON: you happen to know what happens when two different configure.zcml both define a <browser:menu> with the same name? is the second one ignored? or what? | 21:51 |
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| mgedmin | I think you get a conflict error | 21:54 |
| mgedmin | during zope 3 startup | 21:54 |
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| rocky | mgedmin: doesn't look like that happens... definitely doesn't conflict on startup... but in my particular situation i get the menu but it's empty (items from neither configure.zcml are properly populating it) ... but that might not be a z3 natural thing | 21:57 |
| benji | rocky: if you comment out one of them does it then work? | 21:57 |
| rocky | benji: yep | 21:58 |
| benji | freaky | 21:58 |
| benji | that sounds like a bug, I'd file a collector issue | 21:58 |
| mgedmin | oh, <browser:menu>! | 21:58 |
| mgedmin | I thought <browser:menuItem> | 21:58 |
| rocky | hehe | 21:58 |
| mgedmin | anyway, looks like a bug | 21:58 |
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| rocky | benji & mgedmin: simple code that sort of demonstrates my problem ... http://paste.plone.org/11152 | 22:20 |
| rocky | zope 3.3 | 22:21 |
| rocky | err | 22:21 |
| rocky | zope 3.2 | 22:21 |
| rocky | sorry | 22:21 |
| benji | rocky: what does the ZCML look like? | 22:21 |
| mgedmin | I think you get two menu objects with the same name; the zcml populates one of them, but getMenu returns the other one. | 22:22 |
| timte | <browser:page name="events.Event" ...> -- this creates a view, right? | 22:22 |
| rocky | benji: project1 -> http://paste.plone.org/11153 project2 -> http://paste.plone.org/11154 | 22:22 |
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| benji | rocky: looks like a bug | 22:25 |
| benji | (in Zope)_ | 22:25 |
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| timte | If I put a <browser:addMenuItem view="events.Event" ...> below it zope complains that it can't find the view "events.Event" | 22:25 |
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| mgedmin | timte: addMenuItem want's a view name, not a class name | 22:27 |
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| mgedmin | <browser:page name="myAddView" class="events.Event" /> | 22:27 |
| mgedmin | <browser:addMenuItem view="myAddView" ... /> | 22:27 |
| timte | mgedmin: I have this directive above the other one, shouldn't this create that view? <browser:page name="events.Event" ...> | 22:28 |
| mgedmin | ah, what a strange view name | 22:28 |
| mgedmin | I misunderstood | 22:28 |
| mgedmin | maybe you registered the view for a different interface then | 22:28 |
| timte | yeah, philipp used that naming in his training :) | 22:28 |
| mgedmin | actually, that might be pretty conventional naming for IAdding views... I don't use those very often | 22:29 |
| timte | right, that's actually what I'm doing | 22:29 |
| timte | <browser:page name="events.Event" for="...IAdding" ...> | 22:30 |
| timte | does the addMenuItem directive have to register the menu on the same interface? | 22:30 |
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| timte | I get so confused... | 22:32 |
| timte | I want to use formlib and that creates the object itself, so addMenuItem shouldn't need a class/factory argument? but I think it's mandatory | 22:33 |
| timte | enlighten me please :) | 22:34 |
| timte | maybe I shouldn't use addMenuItem at all then | 22:36 |
| mgedmin | actually, I am now confused to | 22:40 |
| mgedmin | I kan't even spell "too" | 22:40 |
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| rocky | benji: registering utilities with the same name providing the same interface seems to work fine... shouldn't you get a conflict error ? http://paste.plone.org/11160 | 23:03 |
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| J1m | rocky, no | 23:20 |
| J1m | should you get an error when you overwrite a key in a dict? | 23:20 |
| benji | IOW, rocky, the conflicts come from ZCML, not the component system | 23:21 |
| rocky | J1m: well, in my case the overwriting is causing an issue where neither of my menu's items are getting accessible | 23:21 |
| benji | (ZCML tries to keep you from shooting yourself in the foot) | 23:21 |
| rocky | benji: right, with the discriminators | 23:21 |
| benji | rocky: I want to suggest you file a bug again, but it'll be the third time, so I'll refrain :) | 23:22 |
| J1m | It is up to a higher-level tool to provide a "can't conflict" policy. | 23:22 |
| rocky | benji: lol | 23:22 |
| rocky | benji: i don't want to file a bug if it's working like its supposed to... you see, J1m already showed me where what i thought was supposed to happen was wrong ;) | 23:22 |
| benji | what, you're afraid of a little public smack-down? :) | 23:24 |
| rocky | ;) | 23:24 |
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