IRC log of #zope3-dev for Sunday, 2006-11-26

ignasseems like someone overengineered that thing without thinking of real use cases00:00
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ignasand no one has the time to do it right, because well - the task of creating sane form library with widgets is very difficult00:01
* roym thanks ignas for confirming that he's not nuts for thinking this...00:03
* ignas likes Zope3 for the job security factor, you just do it with Zope3 and if you'll cram enough of Component Architecture, you can be sure that no one else can fix the application ;)00:06
* mgedmin thinks it may be possible to clone the field and change its attributes00:06
ignasexcept for those 10-20 Zope3 programmers in the world00:06
mgedminclass II(I): t0 = I.t0.bind(None); t0.readonly = True00:06
ignasmgedmin: why aren't we doing that in our projects?00:06
mgedminbut that's too hacky in my opinion00:06
ignasmgedmin: your force is strong00:07
mgedminignas: we're doing something worse: copying and pasting the whole fields, sometimes00:07
mgedminand that's just to keep the ordering00:07
ignasmgedmin: not whole fields, more like whole 20 fields00:07
ignas;)00:07
roymmgedmin: following your suggestion, I get:00:14
roymAttributeError: 'InterfaceClass' object has no attribute 't0'00:14
roymis it a syntax issue? should I say I['t0'].bind(None) instead00:15
mgedminmy suggestion was not intended for following00:15
mgedminit was intended for gaping and exclaiming ... um... exclamations of horror00:16
mgedminbut you can try t0 = I['t0'].bind(None); t0.readonly = True00:16
mgedminif you want to00:16
roymyes, that works...00:16
mgedminI would use formlib and impose the read-onlyness externally00:16
roymok - but thanks, this helps me understand the bind() magic better...00:17
mgedminit is true that the bind clones the field, but using bind(None) solely for cloning purposes is hacky and unclean00:17
mgedmin(and I wouldn't be surprised if it broke some time in the future)00:17
roymis there a recommended alternative to clone a field?00:18
* mgedmin never needed it00:18
* mgedmin does not know00:18
* roym gets the idea; he'll stick to altering formlib instead00:19
mgedminuh, what do you mean by "altering formlib"?00:20
roymI mean the "for_display=True" attributes..00:21
mgedminah, ok00:21
mgedminthat seems to be "using formlib" to me, rather than altering it...00:21
* mgedmin is somewhat sleepy at this time of the night00:21
roymindeed - yes..00:21
* roym has no grandiose plans to "alter" formlib :)00:22
roymgood night, and thanks for your input.00:25
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