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d2mreinserting the topic...14:14
*** d2m changes topic to "logs available at http://zope3.pov.lt/irclogs/ || paste code examples into http://zope3.pastebin.com/ or http://paste.plone.org/ || Zope 3.3.0 is out || bugs live at http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope3-dev || New wiki is at http://wiki.zope.org/zope3 || FAQ at http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/FAQ"14:15
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hazmatis anyone using objectfield in earnest?18:08
hazmatseem to be a number of issues18:08
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hazmatas regards the object field and widget issues...  validation is broken as regards source/vocabulary machinery since  _validate_fields in schema._field.py doesn't bind fields, non existant values on non required fields raise attributeerrors (same place), bad semantics in objectwidget which allways create new objects, issues with formlib which doesn't detect changes on update because it doesn't call the widget's applyChanges method.18:35
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rockyhazmat: my suspicion a lot of the zope3 widgets haven't been properly battle tested ;)18:36
hazmati'm wading through these issues and fixing them.. but i just get the sense that no one's really been using this stuff in earnest..18:36
hazmatrocky, yeah..18:37
hazmatincidentally i had a look over plone.app.form to see whats its doing as regards locale in request.. its just monkey patching the system.. i ended up working around with a traversal view.. which mitigated the need for patching zc.datetimewidget at all18:38
hazmatby just setting up the locale during traversal if not present..18:38
hazmatrocky, i think most of them are used heavily.. just custom widget layers.. but i'm starting to suspect that object field/widget isn't used at all..18:39
hazmatie. another issue re objectwidget.. no IDisplaywidget mode of objectwidget.. defaults to rendering an inputdisplay.18:40
hazmatis there a way in zcml to qualify the current context as another package?18:40
hazmatie i want to register resources in another package18:40
hazmati want to set the current/context namespace of zcml to be another package and then do some browser:resource directives relative to that package's location18:41
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rockysorry... sudden phone call...18:44
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hazmatno worries.. i'm out for lunch.. will send email to list once i get some patches w/ tests (tests take time.. )18:47
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rockyhazmat: i just saw your comments regarding the locale thing...19:53
rockyhazmat: still there?19:53
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hazmatrocky, yes20:00
rockyhazmat: mind showing me some code to explain the traversal thing you did? if it's as good as it sounds, i'd certainly consider replacing the monkey in plone.app.form20:01
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hazmatrocky, basically just the stuff from zope.publisher.http.HTTPRequest.setupLocale migrated to traversal adapter, and guarded by a if not getattr( self._subject.REQUEST, 'locale', None): check20:05
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hazmatthere are issues with this approach for testing vs. monkey patching, as you become dependent on ordering, ie the travesral adapter having been invoked becomes a dependency to form usage.20:07
hazmat changing location..20:09
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rocky*gotcha20:10
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rockyhazmat: mind showing me the code for your traversal adapter? i've never constructed one for zope2 (also what version of zope is required to use traversal adapters?)20:45
hazmatthere really isn't anything to it.. just inherit fivetraversible.. i just do this in the init for the adapter after calling super's init, and then the zcml is .. as for zope versions.. i'm using 2.9 atm for this.. in the past i've had to make adjustments for 2.10 can't recall what they were, and afaicr this should work fine with 2.820:47
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rockyinteresting20:50
rockyany particular five version required?20:50
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hazmatrocky, no21:12
hazmatrocky, traversiblity adapation was requirement for views.. and in since the get-go21:13
rockyright21:13
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