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d2m | gmane.org does not process any postings from mail.zope.org since yesterday evening -- maybe zope mailserver hanging again ? | 14:44 |
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philiKON | d2m: noticed the same thing | 14:59 |
philiKON | i have no idea | 14:59 |
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faassen | philiKON: so.. tell me what happens when you do.. | 15:45 |
faassen | philiKON: text = u"<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1" ?><foo>Some non-ascii characters here</foo>" | 15:45 |
faassen | philiKON: and then: | 15:45 |
faassen | philiKON: text = text.encode('UTF-8') | 15:45 |
faassen | philiKON: and then: | 15:45 |
faassen | philiKON: pass it to an XML parser? | 15:46 |
faassen | philiKON: the XML parser will see the encoding header in the 8-bit string, will assume it's latin 1, run into UTF-8 characters, and we have a problem. | 15:46 |
philiKON | no idea. it breaks? | 15:46 |
faassen | philiKON: therefore ignoring this is not a safe strategy. | 15:46 |
philiKON | ok | 15:46 |
philiKON | i don't really have time right now | 15:47 |
philiKON | respond to my email on the list? | 15:47 |
faassen | philiKON: I want to post this to the mailing list but somehow my gmane isn't updating. | 15:47 |
philiKON | mine neither | 15:47 |
philiKON | it's a problem | 15:47 |
faassen | I'll just attach it to the top of the thread. :) | 15:47 |
philiKON | sure | 15:48 |
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philiKON | faassen: a fix for the problem is obviously quite appreciated, too ;) | 15:51 |
philiKON | my goal was to prevent a monkey patch in zope 2 | 15:51 |
faassen | philiKON: you just really need to refuse to guess. | 15:52 |
philiKON | ok | 15:53 |
faassen | philiKON: it's according to XML spec to do this (in my reading of it) to do this if there is no encoding declaration at all. | 15:53 |
philiKON | not sure what that means in that ocntext | 15:53 |
faassen | philiKON: then you can argue it's entered in multi-byte encoding and it'll just do the right thing | 15:53 |
faassen | philiKON: but if there's an encoding declaration in a unicode string, you just want to complain. | 15:54 |
philiKON | but we have the data as unicode already | 15:54 |
philiKON | anyway, gotta go, meeting | 15:54 |
faassen | philiKON: you have a conflicting encoding declaration. | 15:54 |
philiKON | faassen: right, perhaps w eshould simply complain about an encoding decl in unicode input | 15:54 |
faassen | philiKON: according to spec you can't pass "unicode" into an XML parser, you pass *some* encoding. this just happens to be the Python encoding. | 15:54 |
faassen | native encoding. | 15:54 |
philiKON | sounds sensible | 15:54 |
faassen | right. | 15:54 |
philiKON | okeydokey | 15:55 |
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faassen | there's probably some code in lxml that does this check | 15:55 |
faassen | so we could take that. | 15:55 |
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faassen | philiKON: I wonder whether the z3/gmane issue isn't specific to the z3 mailing list. something I posted to anotehr mailing list does show up in my own reader. | 17:51 |
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d2m | i have no idea how to talk to gmane.org | 17:57 |
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d2m | maybe they got a support list somewhere | 17:57 |
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faassen | d2m: what I suspect is that the zope 3 mailing list is pehraps not sending messages to that account for whatever reason. | 18:01 |
faassen | d2m: anymore. as it works with non-zope lists. | 18:01 |
faassen | d2m: may be wrong. | 18:01 |
d2m | faassen: that was my first idea, happend a few times before | 18:05 |
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faassen | d2m: ah, I think I'm wrong; my posts to another list are not showing up after all :) | 18:06 |
faassen | d2m: anyway, I'll worry about it later, sounds like a gmane problem. :) | 18:07 |
d2m | faassen: good to know | 18:07 |
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philiKON | mgedmin: i just sent you a patch for ezmerge, btw | 21:12 |
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mgedmin | thanks | 21:12 |
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