IRC log of #zope3-dev for Monday, 2007-01-22

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ksmith99roym: isn't that usually handled by zope.app.container.interfaces.IWriteContainer?00:10
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roymksmith99: but if that were the issue, why would __setitem__ which also belongs to IWriteContainer succeed?00:30
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WebMavenis there some special spelling for providing an int as a missing_value in an Interface?00:34
WebMavenI tried missing_value=0 and missing_value=int(0), but I keep getting this message:00:35
WebMavenConfigurationError: ('Invalid value for', 'class', "(None, (<type 'int'>, <type 'long'>))")00:36
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ksmith99roym: conflicting zcml? are set_schema and IWriteContainer stepping on each others toes?00:49
WebMavenAnyone? I can't seem to define a missing_value on an Int field...00:59
WebMavenThis is very puzzling...01:02
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zenwrylyIs there a way to use a property with a zope.app.container.contained.contained component?  It seems like the wrapper gets stripped with using python properties.01:21
WebMavenOK, more wierdness... Do default values not work with Text fields?01:25
WebMavenOK, so I was psyched out by the forms machinery. Apparently, if the default value and the missing_value are equal, the form doesn't pre-fill the field.01:48
WebMavenI think that counts as "too much help".01:52
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zenwrylyanyone know a workaround for the problem with python properties and wrapped components?02:08
WebMavenI'm not even sure what you're asking.02:16
zenwrylywell, if you use python properties with something with a context wrapper (and I'm assuming a contained wrapper is similar) the getter can't access the context02:17
zenwrylyessentially in a getter you can't access the context wrapper02:17
zenwrylyI'd love a workaround :)02:18
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WebMavenzenwryly: dunno.02:29
zenwrylyok, thanks :)02:32
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J1mTheuni, I assume that you haven't made an egg for zc.recipe.zope3checkout.17:32
Theuninot as far as i remember17:33
Theunialso, i don't think i'm admin for the pypi entry, although I didn't check.17:34
J1mprobably not.  I'll make a release.17:34
Theunithanks!17:34
Theunibtw: i'm hunting something down where the checkout recipe (or buildout) does an uninstall/install cycle when I don't see why it should17:34
Theuniit starts checking out zope 3 again and again some times17:35
Theuni(instead of running svn up)17:35
J1mI know why.17:35
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* Theuni listens.17:35
J1mThat's why I'm looking at it.17:35
J1m2 reasons.17:35
Theuni:)17:35
J1mThe recipe depends buildout even when it shouldn't.17:36
J1mIf you get a new buildout, then buildout assumes the recipe has changes, since one of it's depenencies has.17:36
Theuniah.17:36
J1m(At least I think.)17:36
TheuniMakes sense, though.17:37
TheuniSo an updated version of setuptools would also trigger this.17:37
J1mMore importantly, if the recipe is an external, then every time you do an svn up, files under the recipe's .svn directory change.17:37
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TheuniAh. I'm using it as an external in some places.17:38
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J1mThis causes buildout to think the recipe has changes.17:38
TheuniSo, I guess it makes sense to ignore stuff from SCM tools?17:38
J1mThis is because buildout isn't clever enough to slip .svn and CVS directories.17:38
J1mYes17:38
Theuni:)17:38
J1mThe setuptools case is, sadly, unavoidable.17:39
J1mthe recipe really does depend on setuptools for namespace support.17:39
J1mThere's know way to know that a setuptools update shouldn't affect this.17:40
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TheuniHopefully this doesn't change too often, though.17:40
TheuniRight.17:40
J1mright17:40
J1mI think the bigger issue is ignoring .svn and CVS.17:40
TheuniWhy?17:41
J1mBecause, they lead to spurious "changes".17:42
J1mOf course, once I make a new release of this recipe, we want need to use it as an external.17:42
J1mwont17:42
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Theuniright17:50
TheuniJ1m: ah. I thought you meant that it's a bigger issue to solve.17:50
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J1mTheuni, it seems as though we should be able to avoid the update step if revision isn't HEAD.17:55
TheuniI think I'm somewhat out of sync with your thinking :)17:57
J1mThe recipe lets you specify a revision.17:57
Theuniah.17:57
J1mIf you do, then there should be do point in doing an svn up or a recompile.17:58
J1mno point17:58
Theuniright. changing the revision would trigger an uninstall/reinstall17:58
Theuni*although* it would be much better resource usage if we would do an update instaed of install/uninstall17:58
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J1mOK, the egg is uploaded.18:01
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guruzanyone in here using freenet?21:44
philiKONyep21:47
philiKONas in the internet provider?21:47
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