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| zagy_ | hmm... the pagetemplate resource is not setting the content type in the reponse. | 09:47 | 
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| jodok | Theuni: ping | 11:39 | 
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| Theuni | sigh | 17:53 | 
| Theuni | the wiki is annoying | 17:53 | 
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| mgedmin | which wiki? | 17:55 | 
| ccomb | I guess wiki.zope.org | 17:56 | 
| ccomb | I wonder wether the Summer of Code could be turned into a Summer of Documentation ? :) | 17:58 | 
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| projekt01 | ccomb, or the Summer of fix the wiki for IE | 18:02 | 
| ccomb | or the Summer of Learn People Not To Use IE | 18:03 | 
| projekt01 | ;-) | 18:03 | 
| ccomb | (oops, bad english) | 18:03 | 
| Theuni | yeah. zwiki. | 18:09 | 
| Theuni | it doesn't want me to make any changes. | 18:09 | 
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| softdevr | hi, I'm having trouble accessing the interface of objects in a container. I've added a require tag in the ZCML file though. | 18:13 | 
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| softdevr | I can access the container's attributes, but not the contained objs - ForbiddenAttribute | 18:15 | 
| ccomb | Your object interface extends IContainer ? | 18:18 | 
| mgedmin | and specifically which attribute is forbidden? | 18:19 | 
| softdevr | ccomb - yeah | 18:20 | 
| softdevr | mgedmin: I've added a couple of text / text lines attributes | 18:21 | 
| mgedmin | that does not answer my question | 18:22 | 
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| ccomb | what does your require zcml declaration contain? | 18:23 | 
| softdevr | mgedim: ok, so the one I'm trying to access is 'author' | 18:24 | 
| * mgedmin needs to see both the exception and the zcml permission declaration in order to give a useful answer | 18:25 | |
| softdevr | ccomb: zcml contains: <require interface="bhf.news.interfaces.INewsArticle" permission="zope.Public" /> | 18:26 | 
| ccomb | you need set_schema | 18:27 | 
| mgedmin | no | 18:27 | 
| mgedmin | you also need <require interface="...IReadContainer" permission="..." /> | 18:28 | 
| ccomb | I've understood he cannot write the attribute | 18:28 | 
| mgedmin | "I can access the container's attributes, but not the contained objs" | 18:28 | 
| mgedmin | to access contained objs you need to allow __getitem__ at least | 18:29 | 
| mgedmin | but IReadContainer is better | 18:29 | 
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| d2m | Theuni: let me check edit permissions in zwiki | 18:29 | 
| Theuni | d2m: no. it's not edit permissions. | 18:30 | 
| Theuni | it's *slooooooooooooooooooow*ness | 18:30 | 
| Theuni | it took about 4 minutes to apply the last change i did | 18:30 | 
| d2m | oh, its gone to sleep again | 18:30 | 
| d2m | Theuni: likely it has restarted and now it is not coming up again - this happens ever other day now | 18:31 | 
| Theuni | why would it restart in the first place? | 18:31 | 
| d2m | Theuni: no idea, low on ram likely | 18:32 | 
| Theuni | eeeeek | 18:32 | 
| Theuni | how much ram does that machine have? | 18:32 | 
| d2m | this runs on a 256MB vhost | 18:32 | 
| Theuni | how many objects in the ZODB cache? | 18:32 | 
| Theuni | how many threads? | 18:32 | 
| d2m | too many | 18:32 | 
| d2m | you need to ask sm in #zwiki for detail (hardware and setup) | 18:33 | 
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| softdevr | ccomb / mgedin - thanks I'll try that out | 18:36 | 
| ccomb | a question, if you set the require permission on IReadContainer, won't you have the risk to set this permission for *every* ReadContainer, instead of just the wanted object ? | 18:38 | 
| mgedmin | no | 18:40 | 
| mgedmin | IReadContainer is used to get a list of attribute names | 18:40 | 
| mgedmin | the permissions are declared for your object only | 18:40 | 
| mgedmin | but note that when you subclass some Zope 3 class like, say, SampleContainer, permissions are not inherited | 18:41 | 
| ccomb | ah yes, it's inside zope:class | 18:41 | 
| mgedmin | and you always have to add the security declarations | 18:41 | 
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| Theuni | jodok_: whazzaup? | 18:55 | 
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| softdevr | mgedmin: I've tried to add a require tag for IReadContainer within the content class but that's causing compilations errors | 19:01 | 
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| softdevr | A problem in the ZCML ... For: ('protectName', <class 'bhf.news.news.NewsArticleCollection'>, 'values') | 19:03 | 
| softdevr | and ... For: ('protectName', <class 'bhf.news.news.NewsArticleCollection'>, 'keys') | 19:04 | 
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| softdevr | in the bookmarker example online, in the configure.zcml file the content class has no implements tag for .interfaces.IBookmarker | 21:31 | 
| softdevr | but the code works | 21:31 | 
| softdevr | my code only works if I include the 'implements' | 21:33 | 
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| benji | softdevr: (I don't know anything about bookmarker) does the class inherit from a class that does implement the interface, or perhaps implement a different interface that extens IBookmarker? | 21:35 | 
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| softdevr | benji: no, the class implements the interface | 21:37 | 
| softdevr | http://zissue.berlios.de/z3/Zope3In30Minutes.html | 21:37 | 
| benji | softdevr: oh, I misunderstood your question; you're asking "why doesn't the ZCML mention implements", right? | 21:38 | 
| softdevr | yes | 21:38 | 
| benji | the short answer is: because the class does; you only need to do it in ZCML if the class doesn't make it explicitly | 21:39 | 
| softdevr | i'm trying to create my own container/contained model, and it uses the same approach but it will only work if I put it into the ZCML too | 21:41 | 
| benji | sorry, nothing jumps out at me | 21:44 | 
| softdevr | that's an aside really. I'm trying to create a view class for my custom container but am getting a ForbiddenAttribute error when I try to access data from the contained objs. | 21:46 | 
| softdevr | While trying to find any differences between what I've done and the example that's what I noticed | 21:46 | 
| softdevr | I can access the container's attributes. Previously it was suggested that permission was given for IReadContainer on the container but that tutorial doesn't need to do that and it works | 21:48 | 
| softdevr | (it displays the contained objects in a view) | 21:48 | 
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| mgedmin | the fact that TAL apparently uses dictionary internal order when rendering tal:attributes makes doctests fun to write | 22:03 | 
| benji | heh | 22:04 | 
| benji | I haven't noticed that, but it might not be that noticable | 22:04 | 
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| Theuni | hach | 22:35 | 
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| mgedmin | wow | 22:47 | 
| mgedmin | I don't know what I did, but doctest went crazy on me | 22:47 | 
| mgedmin | >>> widget = MyWidget(field, request) | 22:47 | 
| mgedmin | >>> print widget() | 22:47 | 
| mgedmin | it fails on the second line claiming that global 'widget' is not found | 22:47 | 
| mgedmin | no errors on the first line | 22:47 | 
| mgedmin | oh, duh, my fault | 22:48 | 
| * mgedmin forgot how to read tracebacks | 22:48 | |
| J1m | Theuni, are you stil working on the download cache for buildout? | 22:51 | 
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| Theuni | J1m: Yes in general, no in the moment. I'm tied up with paid work again so it's a bit down my list. | 22:55 | 
| Theuni | I do have some code ready though which I started working on but didn't get finished. | 22:56 | 
| Theuni | Also the notes that we made on the two types of caching. | 22:56 | 
| Theuni | I'll check those in on a branch in case you want to use those. | 22:56 | 
| Theuni | J1m: see svn+ssh://ctheune@svn.zope.org/repos/main/zc.buildout/branches/downloadcache | 22:59 | 
| Theuni | not as ctheune of course ;) | 22:59 | 
| J1m | OK, I may want to pusue this quicker than you do. | 23:00 | 
| Theuni | thats what we have svn for :) | 23:00 | 
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| J1m | I'm getting very tired of sites having the distros we need being down. | 23:15 | 
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| Theuni | which one is it now? | 23:21 | 
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| J1m | Theuni, it's amk's site for pycrypto. | 23:42 | 
| Theuni | ah | 23:42 | 
| Theuni | we're getting eggs from there or externals? | 23:42 | 
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