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| ijohnson | i think i have it installed but am unsure how to start it | 06:32 |
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| ijohnson | any ideas what i need to do to start zope? | 06:33 |
| ijohnson | any idea what i need to do to start zope? | 06:36 |
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| drzoltron | I am trying to use the dckeditor widgets of zope.html but zope tells me that it cannot adapt my type to InterfaceClass zope.mimetype.interfaces.IContentInfo | 11:10 |
| drzoltron | any hints how I have to change my type so it can be adapted to IContentInfo ? | 11:11 |
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| drzoltron | zope.html refers to some IContentTypeTextHtml, could someone tell me where that can be found ? | 11:45 |
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| baijum | dobee, ayt ? | 12:19 |
| dobee | baijum: yes | 12:19 |
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| baijum | dobee, I found your eggification of zope.app packages, great ! | 12:20 |
| baijum | are you planning to do other packages also ? | 12:20 |
| baijum | may be I can help you a bit | 12:20 |
| dobee | i will heavily work on this the next two days | 12:21 |
| dobee | i want to finish zope.app | 12:21 |
| baijum | ok, please update this page: http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/EggificationOfZopePackages | 12:21 |
| dobee | this means zope.app does not contain any code, so no zope.app egg | 12:21 |
| dobee | yes i will | 12:21 |
| dobee | fdrake showed me this | 12:22 |
| baijum | I think Fred also working on some packages, we can avoid duplicate efforts | 12:22 |
| dobee | he will also work on this, but is currently in the plane | 12:22 |
| dobee | we worked together | 12:22 |
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| baijum | ok, If you can list the packages you work on, may be I can do some others | 12:23 |
| dobee | baijum: i try to finish zope.app on my own, so we don't get conflicts | 12:23 |
| baijum | ok, that's fine | 12:23 |
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| dobee | it is hard to track deps, so i have all the packages checked out, and use devel eggs | 12:23 |
| dobee | and change deps all the time, just to keep them running, so i think it is faster this way | 12:24 |
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| dobee | baijum: i'll notify you when i am finished with it, thx anyways | 12:24 |
| baijum | yes, your approach looks good | 12:24 |
| baijum | dobee, no problem | 12:25 |
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| baijum | dobee, I have listed all packages to be eggified under zope.app namespace at: http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/EggificationOfZopePackages | 12:52 |
| dobee | baijum: thx | 12:52 |
| baijum | np | 12:53 |
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| baijum | dobee, btw, have you used 'utilities/finddeps.py' script available in Zope 3 checkoout, may be useful | 12:57 |
| baijum | example usage: python2.4 utilities/finddeps.py -m zope.app.form | 12:58 |
| dobee | ah ok, hm yesterday i wrote http://svn.zope.org/z3c.configurator/trunk/importchecker.py?rev=73616&view=auto | 12:58 |
| dobee | but i'll have a look | 12:58 |
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| projekt01 | baijum, dobee, are the zcml dependencies recognized in finddeps or importchecker? | 13:00 |
| dobee | at least in importchecker not | 13:00 |
| dobee | i guess not | 13:01 |
| dobee | ah hi projekt01 ;-) | 13:01 |
| projekt01 | I guess zcml dependencies are still broken in finddeps.py | 13:01 |
| baijum | I am not sure about zcml dependencies in both scripts | 13:01 |
| projekt01 | dobee, Hi! | 13:01 |
| dobee | for trackin deps for buildout i need the tests deps seperatly so i use my script | 13:02 |
| dobee | would be nice to track zcml too | 13:02 |
| projekt01 | finddeps.py does it, but I guess it's broken | 13:03 |
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| SteveA | Theuni: ping | 13:41 |
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| afd_ | dobee: I'm using z3c.viewtemplate and I'd like to have a second template available from my view class, for macro purposes. Is this possible or the zcml module should be extended so that the template has a name parameter, so that it can be looked up as a named adapter? | 13:58 |
| afd_ | I'm writing to you because you're listed in the source code | 13:58 |
| projekt01 | afd_, use z3c.template, it's implemented there, you can use this packages a s a replacement for z3c.viewtemplate | 13:59 |
| afd_ | projekt01: how difficult is it to switch between packages? which one has a longer expected life? which is more popular? | 14:00 |
| afd_ | no trolling, just trying to make a decision | 14:01 |
| projekt01 | afd_, z3c.template will live as long I develope with Zope3 or I find a better pattern ;-) | 14:01 |
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| projekt01 | afd_, z3c.template is a improvment of z3c.viewtempalte, dobee and jukart should switch to this package. | 14:02 |
| afd_ | projekt01: ok, thanks :) I'll look into this, to see what effort would be involved to switch | 14:03 |
| afd_ | maybe I'll switch just this view I'm working on, if they don't conflict | 14:03 |
| afd_ | :) | 14:03 |
| afd_ | and leave the rest for later | 14:04 |
| projekt01 | afd_, take a look at z3c.pagelet, I guess it's exactly what I'm looking for if you like to use viewlet like pieces of content for a view | 14:04 |
| afd_ | projekt01: yeah, I read its documentation | 14:04 |
| projekt01 | They will only not conflict if you use a layout and content template. You can't use your existing macro layout template. | 14:05 |
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| projekt01 | afd_, But I guess this is what you are loking for. | 14:05 |
| afd_ | I'm not using macros for layout | 14:05 |
| projekt01 | Ok | 14:06 |
| projekt01 | dobee, what are the latest changes in testing configuration? | 14:07 |
| projekt01 | dobee, do I have to use the package="my.project" attr in the configure directive for load custom ftesting.zcml? | 14:09 |
| projekt01 | And base-ftesting.zcml is a fallback if no custom ftesting.zcml is defined in a package? | 14:10 |
| baijum | projekt01, (I am not sure about your requirement), If you use test layer, you can load the ZCML file explicitly (it can be named anything) | 14:14 |
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| projekt01 | I have conflicts, zc.resourcelibrary.ftests.ftesting.zcml is conflicting with my existing test setup and tries to register the security policy again. | 14:15 |
| projekt01 | How can I avoid that? | 14:15 |
| dobee | projekt01: you should use your own layer for each package | 14:16 |
| dobee | and not use other ftesting.zcml stuff | 14:17 |
| dobee | projekt01: btw: take a look at z3c.testing.layer | 14:17 |
| dobee | it buffers the database | 14:17 |
| dobee | and you can provide a custom setup method | 14:18 |
| baijum | projekt01, first define a layer like this: http://svn.zope.org/Zope3/trunk/src/zope/app/form/testing.py?rev=72343&view=markup | 14:18 |
| baijum | and you can use it like this: http://svn.zope.org/Zope3/trunk/src/zope/app/form/browser/ftests/test_editview.py?rev=72976&view=markup | 14:19 |
| projekt01 | Yup, I see. But why does the zc.resourcelibrary register a security policy if I run test from a own package? | 14:19 |
| projekt01 | I guess there is a miss-configuration somewhere. Probably in my package or in zc.resourcelibrary. | 14:21 |
| dobee | projekt01: you should not use ftesting.zcml from zc.resourclibrary | 14:22 |
| dobee | include just the configure.zcml | 14:22 |
| dobee | in your ftesting.zcml | 14:22 |
| projekt01 | I do not explicit use it, it's just there. | 14:22 |
| dobee | if you do <include package="zc.resourcelibrary" file="ftesting.zcml"/> than it is explicit | 14:23 |
| dobee | its in ftesting.zcml i guess | 14:23 |
| dobee | if it is in configure.zcml then it is a bug | 14:23 |
| projekt01 | dobee, see Setup.cfg of zc.resourcelibrary, this will load it. | 14:23 |
| projekt01 | zc.resourcelibrary-*.zcml | 14:23 |
| projekt01 | bug! | 14:24 |
| dobee | projekt01: the whole ftesting.zcml include thing does not work right with layers, you always have conflicts when using other ftesting.zcml | 14:24 |
| dobee | just set up all you need in your ftesting.zcml by just using the normal configure.zcml | 14:25 |
| dobee | no other ftesting.zcml | 14:25 |
| projekt01 | But we do not have to load such custom ftesting.zcml like zc.resou.. | 14:25 |
| projekt01 | right? | 14:25 |
| dobee | the point is, that if you have a buildout or egg you should be able to run your tests without the testing dependencies of other packages | 14:26 |
| dobee | this means that there is no package-includes in a distribution | 14:26 |
| dobee | just like zc.resourclibrary does | 14:26 |
| dobee | it sets up the whole environment in just this zcml file | 14:27 |
| projekt01 | Yup, but not ftesting.zcml because this is done in the custom layer? right? | 14:27 |
| dobee | projekt01: you have to have such an ftestin.zcml for every layer | 14:27 |
| dobee | no | 14:27 |
| dobee | hm, i am not sure i if i understand your question | 14:28 |
| projekt01 | This does not work | 14:28 |
| dobee | if you have a zcml layer with just one ftesting.zcml file that does all includes (without any site.zcml etc) then it works | 14:29 |
| projekt01 | The zc.resourcelibrary registers the securitypolicy for Zope3 in package-includes | 14:29 |
| dobee | ok that is wrong | 14:29 |
| dobee | how does it find package includes? | 14:29 |
| projekt01 | via Setup.cfg ? | 14:30 |
| projekt01 | and zc.resourcelibrary-ftesting.zcml | 14:30 |
| projekt01 | ...the old way | 14:30 |
| dobee | the policy is defined directly in the ftesting.zcml of resourclibrary | 14:31 |
| dobee | <include package="zope.app.securitypolicy" file="meta.zcml"/> | 14:31 |
| dobee | <securityPolicy | 14:31 |
| dobee | component="zope.app.securitypolicy.zopepolicy.ZopeSecurityPolicy" /> | 14:31 |
| dobee | everything is in there, no package-includes etc | 14:31 |
| projekt01 | Can you take alook at zc.resourcelibrary? | 14:31 |
| dobee | projekt01: that whole Setup.cfg stuff doesnt work if you use eggs | 14:31 |
| dobee | http://svn.zope.org/zc.resourcelibrary/trunk/src/zc/resourcelibrary/ftests/ftesting.zcml?rev=73347&view=auto | 14:32 |
| projekt01 | I guess there is something wrong or I don't understand the (new) pattern. | 14:32 |
| dobee | the snippet above comes from this file | 14:32 |
| projekt01 | what does this means: | 14:32 |
| projekt01 | package="zc.resourcelibrary.ftests" | 14:32 |
| projekt01 | line ~5 | 14:32 |
| dobee | this means it includes the ftesting.zcml | 14:32 |
| dobee | which is actually wrong of course | 14:33 |
| projekt01 | is this a condition? | 14:33 |
| dobee | because this prevents resourclibrary from working the old way | 14:33 |
| projekt01 | ;-) | 14:33 |
| projekt01 | Should it be package="zc.resourcelibrary" or what? | 14:34 |
| dobee | it includes the ftesting which, for the old way, should only do specific things, not the whole setup | 14:34 |
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| projekt01 | What's the solution? | 14:34 |
| dobee | create a special ftesting.zcml to make the old way happy and include this in zc.resourclibary-ftesting.zcml | 14:34 |
| dobee | because the current ftesting.zcml only works in its own layer | 14:35 |
| projekt01 | I dont' understand. Does this mean we need two ftesting.zcml? | 14:36 |
| dobee | i think for resourcelibrary you can just include the configure.zcml, because it does nothing special for testing as far as i can see | 14:36 |
| dobee | ups thats wrong | 14:37 |
| dobee | it creates test_template ... etc | 14:37 |
| dobee | the old way ftesting.zcml should only contain the page directives | 14:37 |
| projekt01 | Yup | 14:38 |
| dobee | baijum: what do you think about the "testing" subpackages in app | 14:38 |
| dobee | is this a test dependency or a install dependency | 14:38 |
| dobee | for example zope.app.pagetemplate.testing uses som other testing packages | 14:38 |
| baijum | zope.app.testing should be a testing dep, I think | 14:39 |
| projekt01 | I guess we need such a separation since there are two ways of doing the test setup depending on distributions | 14:39 |
| projekt01 | But at all I call this a big mess | 14:39 |
| dobee | hm, then tests dont run if another package depends on a testing suppackage of an egg | 14:39 |
| projekt01 | Is there no better way to do this? | 14:40 |
| dobee | baijum: like this import in zope.app.pagetemplate.testing zope.app.testing.functional import ZCMLLayer | 14:40 |
| dobee | this would fail i guess if zope.app.testing is not in the install requirements of zope.app | 14:41 |
| dobee | ok this is not a good example, but if it depends on zope.xy.testing | 14:41 |
| dobee | and zope.xy.testing is not in the egg of zope.xy | 14:41 |
| dobee | baijum: i think we should add an extra called testing | 14:43 |
| baijum | in extras_requires ? | 14:43 |
| dobee | yes | 14:44 |
| dobee | but i am not shure if this works | 14:44 |
| dobee | i want to say in zope.app.pagetemplates | 14:44 |
| dobee | that for testing i require zope.app [testing] | 14:44 |
| dobee | or zope.app.component [testing] | 14:44 |
| dobee | hm, i have to think about this 9.9 | 14:45 |
| baijum | dobee, I think it would be better, if you can ask this in list | 14:45 |
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| dobee | hm, that takes a long time | 14:46 |
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| baijum | then for the time being add it as install_requires, later we can sort it out | 14:46 |
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| baijum | anyway, these dependencies are a mess... | 14:47 |
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| projekt01 | baijum, dobee are you talking about to have two buildout? one with testing and one without? | 14:47 |
| projekt01 | baijum, ;-) | 14:48 |
| dobee | no i dont want to have this | 14:48 |
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| baijum | dobee, I am going to eggification (without buildout support) of some packages which you are not marked as 'in progres', is it ok? | 15:19 |
| * baijum it would be easier, if we can complete eggification first, then start buildoutification | 15:20 | |
| dobee | dunno if it is a good id | 15:21 |
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| dobee | but what you could do is create projects for any zope.app... packages | 15:22 |
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| dobee | baijum: ok, let's try | 15:22 |
| dobee | you do the project and egg of not existing projects? | 15:22 |
| dobee | i mean svn | 15:23 |
| projekt01 | dobee, as long we have not removed the Zope3 security policy from zc.resourcelibarary-ftesting.zcml the ftesting.zcml in the Zope3 root doesn't work if you have zc.res.. installed | 15:23 |
| dobee | projekt01: yes | 15:23 |
| projekt01 | Can I fix that and remove the Zope3 securitypolicy form zc.resourcelibrary? | 15:23 |
| dobee | o | 15:23 |
| dobee | no | 15:23 |
| projekt01 | Oh, yes | 15:23 |
| dobee | then the layer doesnt work anymore | 15:23 |
| projekt01 | I don't use it | 15:23 |
| projekt01 | ;-) | 15:23 |
| dobee | you have to have 2 zcml files | 15:23 |
| dobee | lol | 15:24 |
| projekt01 | And how can I load them? | 15:24 |
| projekt01 | ;-) | 15:24 |
| baijum | dobee, first I will try zope.app.apidoc | 15:24 |
| dobee | baijum: ok good id | 15:24 |
| dobee | baijum: i think it should work if we just say on what we are working | 15:25 |
| projekt01 | baijum, or should we first fix the trunk? | 15:25 |
| projekt01 | The eggification stuff breaks the trunk right now. I guess we need a solution. Or at least I need one ;-) | 15:26 |
| dobee | projekt01: what does it break??? | 15:26 |
| projekt01 | zc. resourcelibrary support | 15:26 |
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| dobee | ah i thought you are talking about zope3 trunk | 15:27 |
| projekt01 | It's not compatible with the Zope3 trunk checkout | 15:27 |
| dobee | baijum: these are my curretn packages | 15:27 |
| dobee | bd:~/zsandbox $ ls -l | grep zope. | 15:27 |
| dobee | drwxr-xr-x 14 bd bd 476 25 Mär 18:27 zope.annotation | 15:27 |
| dobee | drwxr-xr-x 12 bd bd 408 25 Mär 18:27 zope.app | 15:27 |
| dobee | drwxr-xr-x 20 bd bd 680 25 Mär 18:27 zope.app.applicationcontrol | 15:27 |
| dobee | drwxr-xr-x 14 bd bd 476 25 Mär 18:27 zope.app.appsetup | 15:28 |
| dobee | drwxr-xr-x 15 bd bd 510 25 Mär 18:27 zope.app.authentication | 15:28 |
| dobee | drwxr-xr-x 14 bd bd 476 25 Mär 18:27 zope.app.broken | 15:28 |
| dobee | drwxr-xr-x 14 bd bd 476 25 Mär 18:27 zope.app.component | 15:28 |
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| * baijum hmm.. dobee could have use a pastebin | 15:28 | |
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| projekt01 | dobee, can I remove the dependency in zc.table from zc.resourcelibrary? | 15:29 |
| dobee | sorry for the long post :-( | 15:29 |
| dobee | huh, dunno | 15:29 |
| Theuni | SteveA: pong | 15:29 |
| baijum | dobee, it's not reached here, use a pastebin | 15:29 |
| dobee | ok | 15:29 |
| baijum | http://zope3.pastey.net/ | 15:30 |
| dobee | baijum: http://zope3.pastey.net/9323 | 15:30 |
| dobee | baijum: i would like if we just conversate over irc and at the end of the day we update the wiki | 15:31 |
| baijum | dobee, ok | 15:32 |
| projekt01 | dobee, what's the right way to fix zc.resourcelibrary testing? | 15:32 |
| baijum | dobee, what's you TZ ? | 15:32 |
| dobee | move the page directives in its own ftests....zcml | 15:32 |
| dobee | and include this file in zc.resourcelibtrary-ftesting | 15:32 |
| dobee | and include that new ftest...zcml in the curretn ftesting.zcml | 15:33 |
| dobee | baijum: +2 | 15:33 |
| dobee | europe/vienna | 15:33 |
| dobee | its now 14:33 | 15:33 |
| dobee | yours? | 15:33 |
| baijum | mine is +5.30 Asia/Calcutta | 15:34 |
| dobee | wow | 15:34 |
| projekt01 | dobee, Ok, I'll do that | 15:34 |
| baijum | Bangalore/India | 15:34 |
| dobee | wo we are just 3 hours appart - that should work | 15:34 |
| baijum | yeah | 15:34 |
| baijum | projekt01, to see the errors coming in zc.resourcelibtrary, I run the test suite but no no error here, how to reproduce it ? | 15:37 |
| projekt01 | I guess I doens't work if you use custom package which do not follwo the own test layer pattern | 15:38 |
| projekt01 | At least there are to ftesting.zcml loaded which include the Zope3 security policy if they load the ftesting.zcml form z3 trunk and zc.resourcelibrary is installed | 15:39 |
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| baijum | projekt01, so this happens when you install zc.resourcelibrary | 15:40 |
| projekt01 | Yup | 15:40 |
| projekt01 | Fixed now in r73623 | 15:41 |
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| projekt01 | dobee, does it work for you? | 15:42 |
| dobee | i dont have a checkout | 15:42 |
| projekt01 | Ok, let me know if it's not working | 15:43 |
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| dobee | baijum: if i say that zope.security has RestrictedPython in install_requires and zope.app.interpreter has zope.security in install_requires, why doesnt it fetch RestrictedPython if i do a buildout, do you know? | 16:17 |
| dobee | in the buildout of zope.app.interpreter | 16:17 |
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| baijum | dobee, it's weird, It should fetch | 16:20 |
| dobee | hm, in the checked in version of the zope.security.setup there is a untrustedpython extra, but i want to get rid of this | 16:21 |
| baijum | dobee, we should be consistent in using the keys in extras_requires | 16:23 |
| baijum | for tests, in some packages it is 'test' and in some others it is 'tests' (I think there is 'testing' also) | 16:24 |
| dobee | let us use "test" | 16:25 |
| baijum | dobee, +1 | 16:25 |
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| baijum | dobee, if zope.security can be used with out RestrictedPython anywhere, don't remove untrustedpython from extras_requires | 16:27 |
| * baijum not sure about it | 16:28 | |
| dobee | baijum: zope.security.untrustedpython uses it | 16:28 |
| baijum | no, I mean other packages other that zope.security itself | 16:30 |
| dobee | ok i keep the extra, but i still wonder why this doesnt work | 16:30 |
| dobee | i guess there are some packages that just use the checker | 16:30 |
| baijum | you have to add install_requires = [.... 'zope.security [untrustedpython]', ] in zope.app.interpreter | 16:31 |
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| dobee | yes if i keep the extra | 16:32 |
| dobee | and i'll keep it | 16:33 |
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| baijum | for zope.security RestrictedPython is an optional feature ( zope.security.untrustedpython ) from the POV of setup.py, so 'untrustedpython' in extras_requires, if any other packages requires it, let them explicitly mention it in square brackets | 16:36 |
| baijum | http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/setuptools#declaring-extras-optional-features-with-their-own-dependencies | 16:37 |
| dobee | what means POV? | 16:37 |
| baijum | point of view | 16:37 |
| dobee | where is this defined - i mean that untrustedpython is optional? | 16:38 |
| baijum | setup.py of zope.security | 16:38 |
| dobee | yes in the svn version, but local i removed that extras_requries and put RestrictedPython into install_requires | 16:39 |
| dobee | and it didnt work | 16:39 |
| baijum | oh! I see | 16:40 |
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| baijum | then buildout may be using the old egg of zope.security | 16:41 |
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| baijum | remove the zope.security from eggs dir | 16:41 |
| dobee | i've done that | 16:41 |
| dobee | anyhow i leave it in | 16:41 |
| dobee | let's worry about this later ;-) | 16:42 |
| baijum | dobee, ok :) | 16:43 |
| baijum | dobee, I hope you are using 'eggs-directory' option in ~/.buildout/default.cfg | 16:45 |
| dobee | of course | 16:45 |
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| baijum | dobee, I am leaving now, see you ! | 16:53 |
| dobee | cu baijum | 16:53 |
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