| seonew | yeah, I'll come back to it again. thanks. | 00:03 |
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| philiKON | wow | 00:54 |
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| philiKON | i just needed 6 lines of python code to run zope 3 completely on paste.deploy | 00:54 |
| philiKON | no zope.server, no twisted.web2 | 00:54 |
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| * pbugni wants to see those 6 lines | 00:58 | |
| * philiKON commits them | 00:58 | |
| philiKON | pbugni: http://svn.zope.org/zope.paste/trunk/zope/paste/factory.py?rev=73930&view=auto | 01:00 |
| pbugni | woof | 01:01 |
| pbugni | that is downright impressive | 01:01 |
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| philiKON | ok, the six lines are now 43, but now i also support developermode and multiple database a la zope.conf | 01:57 |
| RaFromBRC | philiKON: that's awesome! | 02:03 |
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| timte | ISomething(obj) returns obj directly if it implements ISomething. Is there a way to prevent this so I can use my own ISomething adapter even if the obj provides ISomthing directly? | 14:34 |
| mgedmin | I doubt it | 14:35 |
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| jukart | timte: don't provide ISomething :) | 14:47 |
| timte | jukart: I wish it was in my control :) | 14:48 |
| jukart | timte: but the code which adapts is under your control ? | 14:53 |
| timte | sure, I want to make an adapter, but it's not used because the object provides it directly. | 14:54 |
| mgedmin | write a proxy object | 14:54 |
| jukart | what if you make a named adapter for this special content type and do a fallback to the unnamed | 14:54 |
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| timte | jukart: ah, you mean adapts, no that code is not under my control, only the adapter itself :/ | 14:56 |
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| jukart | no, you do queryAdapter(c, ISomething, name="mySpecial") | 14:57 |
| jukart | if this doesn't provide it, you do ISomething(c) | 14:57 |
| jukart | and the mySpecial-adapter is only for your special type | 14:58 |
| timte | but it's not my code that looks up the adapter | 14:59 |
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| jukart | ok, then it's bad, that was my question before, sorry | 14:59 |
| timte | yeah, I misunderstood | 15:00 |
| timte | I'd like a ISomething(obj) that only looks in registry, not on object. | 15:00 |
| timte | uhm no, I didn't have control over that code, sorry | 15:01 |
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| mgedmin | do zodb read/write conflicts still exist in zope 3.2? | 15:48 |
| mgedmin | I thought mvcc was supposed to get rid of them all | 15:48 |
| mgedmin | does zodb that is bundled with zope 3.2 have mvcc? | 15:48 |
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| mgedmin | conflict errors are very painful when the request takes 1 hour to produce an 8 meg xml file with little bits of data taken from thousands of persistent objects | 15:52 |
| benji | mgedmin: write conflicts still happen, but I don't think there are (supposed to be) read conflicts | 15:53 |
| benji | oh, and to answer your other question, yes zope 3.2's zodb has mvcc | 15:54 |
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| J1m | Requests taking an hour are very painful. :) | 16:18 |
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| mgedmin | benji: the view that got the conflict error does not write to the PersistentDict that conflicted | 17:10 |
| benji | it sounds like it would be difficult to create a small test to provoke the read conflict, but I bet that'll be neccesary to diagnose it :\ | 17:11 |
| mgedmin | hm, actually it could, I suppose | 17:12 |
| mgedmin | change that dict, I mean | 17:12 |
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| mgedmin | there's some initialize-default-values-if-they're-not-present magic going on in some of the adapters | 17:13 |
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| jbb666 | i saw some threads on distutils-sig that indicated people were thinking about how use zc.buildout to install eggs built from SVN.... does this work now? | 19:45 |
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| drzoltron | Hey, what could be the reason for the following error: AttributeError: type object 'Editor' has no attribute 'providedBy' | 20:30 |
| mgedmin | the reason could be that the class Editor does not have a 'providedBy' attribute | 20:30 |
| mgedmin | which is what the exception says | 20:30 |
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| drzoltron | mgedmin: really, wow ! | 20:30 |
| mgedmin | interfaces typically have providedBy | 20:31 |
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| mgedmin | are you sure it wasn't supposed to be IEditor.providedBy instead of Editor? | 20:31 |
| drzoltron | mgedmin: the class looks just like the other classes that work | 20:31 |
| mgedmin | or maybe you're passing a class to a function that expects an interface | 20:31 |
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| drzoltron | ah got it, passed the class to a contains() which expects the interface ;) | 20:32 |
| drzoltron | thanx | 20:32 |
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| drzoltron | can I lock a ++skin++something to an object ? | 20:33 |
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| mgedmin | you could write a subscriber for IBeforeTraversalEvent that checks whether the object being traversed is the one you want, and if so, calls applySkin() | 20:37 |
| mgedmin | I've done that on a couple of projects | 20:37 |
| drzoltron | mgedmin: cool, will try that ! | 20:37 |
| drzoltron | sounds good | 20:37 |
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| drzoltron | mgedmin: where do I find the IBeforeTraversalEvent ? | 21:02 |
| drzoltron | just did a search in the zope3 source, but no success | 21:02 |
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| mgedmin | that's because I spelt it wrong | 21:04 |
| pcardune | drzoltron: zope.app.publication.interfaces.IBeforeTraverseEvent | 21:04 |
| drzoltron | hehehe | 21:04 |
| drzoltron | thanx | 21:04 |
| drzoltron | super ! | 21:04 |
| drzoltron | google found a lot of pages with it though ;) | 21:04 |
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| drzoltron | I check whether an obejct is of a certain class like that: event.object.__class__.__name__ == 'Editor': | 21:23 |
| drzoltron | is there a more elegant event ? | 21:24 |
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| softdevr | is there a forum package for z3? | 21:25 |
| pcardune | drzoltron: it is probably better to check if the object provides a certain interface... i.e. IObjectsInterface.providedBy(event.object) | 21:25 |
| drzoltron | erh: elegant way ;) | 21:25 |
| drzoltron | ah cool, thanx pcardune | 21:26 |
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| pcardune | drzoltron: as there can be many classes named 'Editor' | 21:26 |
| drzoltron | sure | 21:26 |
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| mgedmin | fwiw a direct, but not good answer to your question would be event.object.__class__ == Editor | 21:28 |
| mgedmin | and if you want to accept subclasses as well, isinstance(event.object, Editor) | 21:28 |
| mgedmin | but interfaces are the recommended way in zope 3 | 21:28 |
| drzoltron | mgedmin: yeah, works fine | 21:31 |
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| faassen | J1m: small buildout question. Is there a way to trigger an egg download from SF? | 23:36 |
| J1m | Give a find-links value that points at the SF download page. | 23:36 |
| faassen | J1m: and find-links would be placed in a zc.recipe.egg:eggs section? | 23:37 |
| J1m | Either there, or in your buildout section. | 23:38 |
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| jbb666 | another buildout q.... is there a way to build a SVN-based egg via develop = ? | 23:43 |
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| jbb666 | J1m, faassen, anyone? | 23:44 |
| J1m | It would be a good recipe. | 23:44 |
| jbb666 | mmm | 23:44 |
| J1m | Now you have to do a checkout and then add it. | 23:44 |
| jbb666 | so its a todo item kinda | 23:44 |
| J1m | Which is how I prefer to do it anyway. | 23:44 |
| jbb666 | hmm | 23:44 |
| J1m | In fact, forget I mentioned a recipe. | 23:44 |
| jbb666 | so you could use svn externals | 23:44 |
| J1m | That's a bad idea anyway. | 23:44 |
| J1m | Yes. I do all the time. | 23:45 |
| jbb666 | ok thats what i will do instead.... thanks! | 23:45 |
| J1m | Or if you just need it for a short time, do a checkout. | 23:45 |
| faassen | yeah, just put in an svn:externals and then list it in the 'develop' bit. | 23:47 |
| faassen | is what I do. | 23:47 |
| faassen | or what J1m says, for a short time, you simply check it out and add it. | 23:47 |
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