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| Theuni | baijum: ping | 09:35 |
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| baijum | Theuni: pong | 09:39 |
| Theuni | can you add me as a cheeseshop owner to zope.viewlet? | 09:39 |
| Theuni | (and maybe the other packages if it doesn't hurt) | 09:39 |
| Theuni | i need to publish an updated egg | 09:40 |
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| baijum | Theuni, ok will do, what's your cheeseshop ID ? | 09:42 |
| Theuni | ctheune | 09:42 |
| baijum | I have add 'ctheune' as owner of zope.viewlet, will do others after sometime | 09:44 |
| Theuni | thanks | 09:44 |
| baijum | np | 09:47 |
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| Theuni | baijum: what's our policy of publishing the zope.app eggs to pyPI? | 09:52 |
| Theuni | do we only put them on download.zope.org for now or what? | 09:53 |
| baijum | Theuni, I think we can publish it to cheeseshop also | 09:53 |
| Theuni | hmm. | 09:53 |
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| baijum | I don't find any reason for not doing it... | 09:54 |
| Theuni | that would be some work, none of those are uploaded yet. :/ | 09:54 |
| baijum | I cann't | 09:54 |
| Theuni | me neither righ tnow | 09:55 |
| Theuni | but i'll keep it in my head | 09:55 |
| Theuni | when i have some spare time, i'll do | 09:55 |
| baijum | then, leave it for time being, I can help you to do it this weekend | 09:55 |
| baijum | Theuni, are you going to make a1 release now ? | 09:56 |
| Theuni | i can't | 09:57 |
| Theuni | the zpkg configuration is broken :( | 09:57 |
| Theuni | see my postings on the mailinglist | 09:57 |
| baijum | ah, ok | 09:58 |
| Theuni | oh wait | 09:58 |
| Theuni | freds tip might have fixed it | 09:58 |
| Theuni | *Testing* | 09:58 |
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| Theuni | :) | 09:59 |
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| Theuni | hey. this looks good. | 10:42 |
| Theuni | only one zeo test failure | 10:42 |
| baijum | cool | 10:42 |
| baijum | Theuni, I have added 'Owner' role to 'ctheune' in cheeseshop for all packages I owned there, please let me know if anything is missing | 10:42 |
| Theuni | :) | 10:43 |
| Theuni | thanks! | 10:43 |
| baijum | np | 10:43 |
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| Theuni | gotta run the functional tests and if those pass and the zeo doesn't appear again i'll make a release | 10:43 |
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| d2m | Theuni, the project links at http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi/gocept.zeoraid seem to be wrong | 11:25 |
| Theuni | d2m: true. | 11:40 |
| Theuni | try launchpad.net/gocept.zeoraid | 11:40 |
| Theuni | i updated the cheeseshop entry | 11:41 |
| d2m | Theuni, thanks | 11:41 |
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| Theuni | yaya | 12:02 |
| Theuni | we're on our way to 3.4a1 | 12:02 |
| Theuni | i have a release that runs all tests | 12:02 |
| Theuni | got to do the packaging with the right tag again now | 12:03 |
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| ignas | who is packing eggs? | 16:52 |
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| philiKON | ignas: ? | 16:54 |
| ignas | schooltool development sandbox had some eggs in it's dependencies | 16:54 |
| ignas | zope.html | 16:54 |
| ignas | or something | 16:54 |
| ignas | and suddenly in a new checkout, i got 90% of zope downloaded as dependencies | 16:55 |
| ignas | which would be quite funny, if it would actually work | 16:55 |
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| philiKON | heh | 16:55 |
| philiKON | works for me | 16:55 |
| philiKON | (installing zope 3 from eggs) | 16:55 |
| philiKON | apparently you got a new version of the zope.html egg | 16:55 |
| ignas | well - i have a normal checkout | 16:55 |
| ignas | of a branch | 16:55 |
| ignas | 3.3 one | 16:55 |
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| philiKON | well, that doesn't really matter | 16:56 |
| ignas | and had only like 4 zope eggs installed | 16:56 |
| philiKON | you want to keep using the old version of the zope.html egg | 16:56 |
| philiKON | the new version (properly) states its dependencies | 16:56 |
| ignas | yeah i guess | 16:56 |
| ignas | from zope.proxy.decorator import SpecificationDecoratorBase | 16:56 |
| ignas | ImportError: No module named decorator | 16:56 |
| ignas | is one of the errors | 16:56 |
| philiKON | oops | 16:57 |
| ignas | just in case someone needs it to fix something | 16:57 |
| philiKON | looks like it's finding the old zope.proxy | 16:57 |
| philiKON | the zope.proxy from 3.3 | 16:57 |
| mgedmin | broken dependency? | 16:57 |
| philiKON | perhaps some egg didn't state zope.proxy as a dependency | 16:57 |
| philiKON | sounds like | 16:57 |
| philiKON | it | 16:57 |
| ignas | ZODB egg | 16:57 |
| ignas | hmm zope.proxy is there | 16:58 |
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| ignas | zope.proxy egg as well | 16:58 |
| philiKON | might not be in your sys.path for some reasdon | 16:58 |
| philiKON | or so | 16:58 |
| philiKON | no idea | 16:58 |
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| ignas | hmm, zope.proxy egg is in sys.path even | 17:01 |
| ignas | and it's even before the Zope3/src path of the checkout | 17:01 |
| ignas | ouch, make test sets a different PYTHONPATH, sorry | 17:02 |
| ignas | hmm, seems like <include package="zope.app" /> is broken | 17:04 |
| ignas | i can recall that when checking out the 3.4 branch i had a deprecation error | 17:05 |
| philiKON | yup, you're supposed to include zope.app.zcmlfiles now | 17:07 |
| ignas | i know | 17:07 |
| ignas | but migration path from 3.3 to 3.4 etc. | 17:07 |
| philiKON | there should be BBB | 17:07 |
| ignas | it was with a checkout, i am not getting it with eggs | 17:08 |
| ignas | maybe you could try replacing zcmlfiles with plain app in your egg setup | 17:08 |
| ignas | to see if it's the problem of my setup or if it's a regression | 17:08 |
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| baijum | ignas, are you migrating 3.3 checkout/zpkg-package directly to 3.4 eggs ? I would suggest to migrate to 3.4 checkout/zpkg-package then use eggs. | 17:14 |
| ignas | baijum: bah | 17:14 |
| ignas | :D | 17:14 |
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| ignas | are you going to release checkout for debian or eggs ? | 17:14 |
| baijum | ignas, I am not sure, how Debian is going to package Zope 3.4 | 17:15 |
| ignas | and is there a Zope3.4 packaged release - not eggs | 17:16 |
| baijum | ignas, there will be official zpkg based 3.4 release | 17:16 |
| ignas | emm - and you will be deprecating zope3.3 in zope3.4 with BBB warnings, and will deprecate everything completely in Zope3.4 eggs ? | 17:17 |
| ignas | or will eggs get named zope3.5 | 17:17 |
| baijum | individual eggs also will be having 3.4 version number | 17:18 |
| baijum | but future releases of Zope (say 3.5) may have different versions of eggs | 17:18 |
| ignas | yes i understand, then why isn't migration from Zope3.3 zpkg to Zope3.4 not supported? | 17:19 |
| ignas | Zope3.4 eggs i mean | 17:19 |
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| baijum | ignas, I am not sure how we can support it ... J1m, philiKON etc.. any idea ? | 17:21 |
| ignas | if you don't support that then i'll just use the 3.4 zpkg as a trampoline, just that i thought it was supposed to work | 17:22 |
| ignas | just that Zope 3.4 eggs seems deceiving | 17:22 |
| ignas | it has 3.4 written on it, when in fact it's more like 3.5 when it comes to backwards compatibility | 17:22 |
| baijum | ignas, can you raise this question in zope3-dev list (backward compatibility of Zope 3.4 eggs to 3.3 zpkg release) | 17:25 |
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| ignas | in Zope3.3 i had <include package="zope.testbrowser.ftests" file="ftesting.zcml" /> in my ftesting.zcml's for every layer | 18:09 |
| ignas | is it not needed anymore or is there some replacement? | 18:09 |
| ignas | because apparently now the ftesting.zcml is not meant to be included by others and is a standalone one | 18:10 |
| benji | I'd have to look at it ignas; I vaugly recall some things changing there, but don't remember what | 18:12 |
| ignas | i know what changed, and why, i just don't know what should i use now ;) | 18:12 |
| benji | IIRC, testbrowser is now in its own layer, so you shouldn't need to include its zcml | 18:12 |
| benji | heh | 18:12 |
| ignas | <resourceDirectory | 18:13 |
| ignas | name="testbrowser" | 18:13 |
| ignas | directory="." /> | 18:13 |
| ignas | was in the old testbrowser.zcml | 18:13 |
| ignas | is it required for my tests to use testbrowser? | 18:13 |
| benji | not for the tests to use testbrowser, it's just used for the tests of testbrowser itself | 18:14 |
| ignas | ok | 18:15 |
| ignas | then i had some voodoo includes in my code | 18:15 |
| ignas | thanks | 18:15 |
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| jodok_ | benji: are you guys using 64bit centos? | 21:52 |
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| benji | we've tested it a bit, but are running 32-bit in production because of the better memory footprint | 21:53 |
| philiKON | Theuni: i'm a bit surprised your change to Zope/Dependencies.cfg in r74240 was necessary | 21:55 |
| philiKON | zope.app.twisted already depends on twisted | 21:55 |
| philiKON | it should've included it | 21:55 |
| jodok_ | benji: o.k. :) we'll use it in production in a few days :) | 21:55 |
| * jodok_ is looking forward to see how dual-quad-cores perform | 21:55 | |
| benji | be sure to watch memory usage, we saw arount a 40% increase in memory usage between 32-bit and 64-bit | 21:56 |
| philiKON | damn those PyObject* pointers | 21:56 |
| benji | it depends on what kinds of objects you have, but I suspect you'll see a similar pattern | 21:56 |
| benji | heh :) | 21:56 |
| jodok_ | benji: oops | 21:57 |
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| J1m | benji, I remember the increase being closer to 100% | 21:58 |
| J1m | like, maybe 80% | 21:58 |
| Theuni | philiKON: then something is weird | 22:00 |
| Theuni | because as i posted on the mailinglist, twisted wasn't pulled in with the existing configuration | 22:01 |
| philiKON | certainly i never had to add 'twisted' and 3.2 and 3.3 worked just fine | 22:01 |
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| Theuni | i emailed fred privately to underline the urgency and as he knows zpkg best, he said he couldn't remind either, however adding twisted included it (more or less obviously) | 22:01 |
| Theuni | i'm a good bit ignorant about the workings of zpkg | 22:01 |
| philiKON | yeah | 22:01 |
| philiKON | i' | 22:01 |
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| philiKON | i'm not really bitchin about this | 22:02 |
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| philiKON | i couldn't care less | 22:02 |
| Theuni | =) | 22:02 |
| philiKON | hopefully this is the last zpkg release | 22:02 |
| Theuni | i'll look at zope.app.twisted | 22:02 |
| Theuni | maybe something in there changes | 22:02 |
| Theuni | s/changes/changed/ | 22:02 |
| Theuni | i freaking want to get this alpha out | 22:02 |
| philiKON | +1 | 22:02 |
| philiKON | btw, did you see grok from eggs? | 22:02 |
| Theuni | no :( | 22:02 |
| Theuni | i'm being crunched by work :/ | 22:03 |
| philiKON | poor, crunchy Theuni | 22:03 |
| Theuni | zope.app.twisted/DEPENDENCIES.cfg lists twisted | 22:03 |
| philiKON | tha' | 22:03 |
| philiKON | tha's what i'm saying | 22:03 |
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| philiKON | argh, /me can't type today | 22:03 |
| Theuni | ahhhh! | 22:03 |
| Theuni | but Zope/DEPENDENCIES.cfg doesn't | 22:03 |
| philiKON | doesn't include zope.app.twisted? | 22:04 |
| Theuni | nope | 22:04 |
| Theuni | who does? | 22:04 |
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| Theuni | nothing depends on it. ok. i'm gonna add zope.app.twisted. | 22:05 |
| Theuni | also, J1m: did you see my call for spurious test failures? | 22:05 |
| Theuni | i'm also getting a ZEO failure maybe 1 out of 10 test runs | 22:06 |
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| J1m | Theuni, you want spurious test failures? | 22:06 |
| Theuni | sure, got some spare ones? :) | 22:07 |
| J1m | Intermittent test failures are, sadly, pretty normal for ZEO. | 22:07 |
| * Theuni misuses english idoms | 22:07 | |
| J1m | Due to the way those tests are written. | 22:07 |
| Theuni | right, however, on my machine a test of zope.component fails | 22:07 |
| J1m | Due to the fact that ZEO code touches sockets. | 22:08 |
| Theuni | and the functional tests just fall over at some points with some resource problem. i posted both tracebacks on the list. | 22:08 |
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| J1m | Theuni, I may have seen the report of the zope.component test failure on your machine. | 22:08 |
| J1m | I don't believe I get a failure on my machine, but IO ahven't tried in a while. | 22:09 |
| Theuni | i didn't get this error on another machine, but I'm a bit nervous because I can't make it go away on mine. :/ | 22:09 |
| J1m | Right. It sounds like it is worth debugging. | 22:09 |
| J1m | do you get it w/o the C version? | 22:10 |
| Theuni | hmm. you mean without running make? | 22:10 |
| Theuni | or deleting the .so files? | 22:10 |
| Theuni | let me check | 22:10 |
| J1m | No, I mean without the .so files in zope.component or zope.interface | 22:10 |
| Theuni | i removed one .so file from zope.interface and the test still fails | 22:11 |
| Theuni | I even compiled a fresh python just to make sure no compiler options or installed packages are in the way. | 22:12 |
| J1m | aren't there .so files in zope.component? | 22:12 |
| Theuni | nope | 22:12 |
| J1m | ok, good luck :) | 22:13 |
| Theuni | i don't see any .c files either :) | 22:13 |
| philiKON | the adapter optimizations are in zope.interface | 22:13 |
| Theuni | yup. those are the ones i deleted. | 22:13 |
| Theuni | philiKON: quick shower? :) | 22:13 |
| philiKON | occupied bathroom | 22:13 |
| Theuni | hah | 22:14 |
| Theuni | I've got to go back to my other work, got to deal with a deadline. | 22:15 |
| Theuni | And zpkg is biting me again anyway. I'll try to do some more work on this tomorrow afternoon. | 22:15 |
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