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Aswinwhere we type messeges right10:59
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baijumHi Aswin11:04
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AswinCant see my messeges?11:07
baijumyes, see your private message11:08
baijumAswin, are registered here ?11:08
AswinYa11:09
baijumI send you some private messages, can you see it ?11:09
baijumor follow this : http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup11:09
AswinYa11:10
Aswini could see11:10
AswinI have replied for that can u see?11:10
baijumno11:10
Aswin /msg nickserv set unfiltered on11:11
baijumAswin, no space before /msg11:11
Aswinok11:12
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baijumWell, can you join #tempbaiju11:12
baijumjust /join #tempbaiju11:13
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hazmatis there anyway to get zc-buildout to ignore certain egg names17:13
Theuninot sure what "ignore" would mean17:14
hazmatwell i'm trying to use zc.buildout in zope2/9, everything works well except any dependency include of zope.* pulls in 3.4, there aren't really eggs for that version of zope, but the dependencies are provided by the environment, basically i want to be able to apply an extension part ( or just rework the egg part) to have ignore eggs option17:17
hazmatalthough i'm not clear to what extent the egg.recipe is driving dep fetching vs. setuptools17:18
J1mhazmat, the egg recipe is doing pretty much what setuptools does.17:21
J1mI'm guessing that this is the same use case that Martin brought up on the distutils sig a week or 2 ago.17:21
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J1mI suspect that there are some lame dependencies that are biting you.17:22
J1mBut I'm having trouble parsing what you said above. :)17:23
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hazmatJ1m, basically i'm in zope 2.9, i want to use the zope.* packages provided by it, by default setuptools wants an egg to manage afaik, and it will fetch eggs corresponding to the latest version by default, even manually specifying these eggs is problematic, as these packages aren't eggified in this version of zope, but the corresponding python packages are provided in the environment. to use that environment, i'd like be able to list out eggs when figurin17:30
hazmatg out a dependencies to install17:30
hazmati'm going through the distutils archives now17:30
benji_hazmat: it sounds like using your existing code as develop eggs might give you what you want; you can tell the buildout "make that code over there an egg" and if the setup.py is properly written that egg will satisfy the dependency17:32
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hazmatbenji_, right.. assuming its already eggified its not an issue.. but these are pre eggification zope packages provided by the app server.  the best option is being able to specify eggs to ignore rather eggifying all previous versions of zope17:36
hazmater. z3.2, z3.3 that is17:36
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benjihazmat: adding a setup.py is the only "eggifying" neccesary; as a matter of fact, you might be able to add dummy setup.pys that just fulfil the dependencies, but that's pretty ugly17:38
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jodokJ1m: by chance, do you know how long the timeout for a zope-client - zeo reconnect is?22:25
J1mIt is configurable.22:25
J1mIt is too long by default.22:26
jodokso it might survive a reboot?22:26
J1mI don't know how to parse that.22:27
jodokparsing error :)22:27
jodoki need to reboot the zeo server22:27
J1mOh, you are asking if a client will reconnect even if the server is rebooted?22:27
J1mOf course.22:27
jodokand i'm wondering if the clients (and their caches) will reconnect, 30 seconds later?22:27
J1mIt will keep trying forever.22:27
jodokthat's good :)22:27
J1mThe polling time starts at 5 seconds and grows to 5 minutes over time.22:28
J1mThe later is pretty stupid imo.22:28
* jodok goes rebooting :) cu22:29
J1mYou can set the min-disconnect-poll and max-disconnect-poll in your zeoclient section in your zope.conf.22:29
J1mI really should change the defaults.22:29
J1mI guess I'll bring it up pn zodb-dev.22:29
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meatballhatanybody have the patience to walk a dunce through Pluggable Authentication?22:37
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jodokJ1m: it worked like a charm :)23:41
J1m:)23:41
jodokrebooted the zeo hardware - and all 18 zope clients reconnected.23:41
jodokand the website even responded during the downtime23:41
jodokzeo rocks :)23:42
J1m:)23:42
jodoksleep tight :) /me drives home from the datacenter23:42
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