IRC log of #zope3-dev for Thursday, 2007-05-17

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CrippsFXwow ... so many net splits15:39
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J1mbaijum, would you like my advice on the best place to start the SoC project?16:13
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ChrisWhey all - has anyone got any good examples of writing tests for a _p_resolveConflicts method?16:32
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CrippsFXChrisW: is _p_resolveConflicts a method that you wrote yourself?16:43
ChrisWCrippsFX: if you ask that question, you cannot answer mine ;-)16:46
CrippsFXChrisW: :P16:46
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CrippsFXChrisW: doctests are pretty easy ... it's just a matter of thinking what you want stuff to do, and then what could possibly go wrong, and then trying it all.16:47
ChrisWas I said, if you don't know what _p_resolveConflicts is, then it's unlikely you've written any custom zodb conflict resolution code, so you may not be best placed on how to unit test that particular method ;-)16:48
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J1mI suspect that ChrisW is wondering how to reproduce the delicate environment that exists when _p_resolveConflicts is called and even what the state will look like.16:48
ChrisWbingo16:48
ChrisWBTrees has some tests which open two connections to the same zodb, that the sanest way to approach this?16:49
J1mSadly, this is a reasonable thing to wonder about.16:49
J1msane16:49
J1mhm16:49
ChrisWheh16:49
J1mSadly, that is the best approach today.16:50
ChrisWalso, a more general question I had to do with _p_resolveConflict, how do you go about changing the state of other objects in that method?16:50
J1mI *really* want to revisit the way conflict-resolution is done.16:50
ChrisWI'd like you to as well ;-)16:50
J1mYou can't.16:50
ChrisW:-(16:50
ChrisWoh16:50
J1mThat is against the rules.16:50
ChrisWokay, so I have a singly-linked list, each element has a "next" pointer16:51
benjiYeah, it's against the rules to want J1m to do anything.  <wink>16:51
J1mYou only get to resolve conflicts for one object at a time.16:51
CrippsFXahh.16:51
J1mbenji, well said.16:51
benji*but*, you can want a pony!16:51
ChrisWif I get simultaneous adds, I'll get a conflict error on the .next attribute of the item16:51
ChrisWI don't like ponies, they taste funny :-S16:52
benjiI'm hungry.16:52
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ChrisWI'd thought about updating the .next attribute on the conflicting object, and then updating one of the new nodes16:52
ChrisWcan I do that?16:52
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J1mno16:57
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ChrisW:-(16:58
ChrisWhow would you suggest building a conflict-resolving FIFO queue?16:58
ChrisWthe logical conflicts are easy to resolve, it's the mechanics I worry about...16:58
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J1mI'd use zc.queue17:00
lurkerChrisW: there is zc.queue which already has conflict resolution, AFAIK17:00
ChrisWcool :-)17:04
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benjiand the zc.queue tests are a thing of wonder17:11
ChrisWso I see :-)17:11
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ChrisWheh, I just easy_install'ed it and it dragged down most of zope :-)17:13
ChrisWI guess my (ancient) zope 3 source distro was pre-egg17:13
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baijumJ1m, I was away, Can you share your advice for the best place to start the SoC project ?17:26
ChrisWone thing about zc.queue: why do you get conflicts when two identical objects are added to the queue?17:28
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baijumJ1m, I am leaving, please send your ideas/advice about SoC project to my mail. thanks !17:47
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CrippsFXhahaha22:19
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also Salut23:36
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