IRC log of #zope3-dev for Sunday, 2007-07-01

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dennis_Hi. I have a question about z3c.menu. Previously, I would have a browser:page directive with a menu="" attribute, and a single view which would collect all menu items and display them. With z3c.menu I now have to turn every single menu item into a viewlet, which means writing an empty viewlet class with just the name of the link, for _every_ item, and the zcml config for a viewlet - it is much more work. What is the benefit here? (I can't use the01:51
dennis_original menus because I can only use them for browser:page, not for z3c:pagelet). Just makes me wonder if I am missing something about z3c.menu.01:51
dennis_(my use case is adding "edit.html" "delete.html" etc when viewing a content object, based on permission of current principal. The "edit.html" and such just need to call contentobject/edit.html where a defined pagelet does the rest)01:53
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pcardunedennis_: you could create a viewlet that displays the old fashioned menu with some extra security checks02:11
pcardunethen you would only have one viewlet, and otherwise easy to insert menus02:11
pcardunedennis_: although that is not completely thought out on my part, just a quick idea02:12
dennis_but i can only add browser:page to the original z3 menus, not a z3c:pagelet02:12
dennis_the old fashioned way i had was a viewlet which uses the @@view_get_menu/my_menu view, and it already returned only the options for which the current principal had permissions (thought that was really cool actually!)02:13
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dennis_so what I used to have,   <browser:page name="edit.html" .. menu="context_menu" title="Edit this" />    .. and these would then all be in @@view_get_menu/context_menu02:15
dennis_but it is browser:page specific, and i would like to add a pagelet now (which is because I have to use those to be able to use z3c.form)02:15
dennis_with z3c.menu (unless I understand it wrong) i create a viewlet in code, with just a viewURL attribute, for every item, as well the zcml configuration for it, which seems a bit overkill ?02:17
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ignasis Zope preloading translation .mo files or will translations get updated if i replace old ones with new ones without restarting Zope?15:28
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ignasis there a way to make custom authentication utility that is set on some site affect what is being done with ++etc++process ?16:24
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tomsterhi there... i'm looking into implementing atom and atom publishing support for a plone3 appliaction and wanted to know if anything already exists in zope3 land on which to build upon (looking through svn.zope.org didn't suggest anything)20:58
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srichtertomster: no21:19
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tomstersrichter: also cool... then i'll attempt to make the interfaces and a default implementation z3 pure with an extra plone/archetype adapter on top...21:39
wjohnstodoes anybody know what this whole "NotYet" thing is?21:40
srichteryes, you tried to get a key reference for an object before it has been added to the database21:41
srichterthe documentation explains this well21:41
wjohnstowhere can I find out more about this error?21:41
wjohnstook thanks21:42
wjohnstoDo BTrees use key references?21:44
wjohnstosrichter: ping21:45
wjohnstoor anyone for that matter21:46
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