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dennis__What is BTrees.family32 that zc.catalog wants but is not in my zope 3.4a1 BTrees module (zc catalog trunk, so should be v1.2, for zope 3.4)01:59
dennis__ok a1 was not new enough, its there in b102:11
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theuniHrgh.18:41
theuniare location proxies supposed to be persistable?18:43
srichtertheuni: hey, please let's not dirty up zope.schema to overcome zope.app.form brokenness18:46
srichtertheuni: I spent a lot of time on z3c.form* to provide a non-broken implementation of forms in Zope 318:46
srichtersetting data is so not the responsibility of the field18:47
theunisrichter: I'm all for that. Can we keep that discussion on the list where it started, though?18:52
srichteryes, I am responding18:52
theuni:)18:52
theuniAnyway, are location proxies supposed to be persistable?18:52
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dennis__Is it allowed to fire off an ObjectCreatedEvent from inside an ObjectModified handler?  (when an object is modified, I create a log entry object and add it to the annotations of the object, but I want them to be indexed so I expect the intid utility to pick it up (it implements ILocation), but it doesn't notice it)20:33
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dennis__confused .. when z3c.form.AddForm posts an ObjectCreatedEvent, who turns that into an ObjectAddedEvent on a container? Something added by AddForm sends the ObjectAddedEvent, but I have to manually do it if not using AddForm20:55
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X-screamhi, is there a shorter version of trying to do this in ZPT:21:24
X-scream<ul tal:define="empty python: not context.tools" tal:condition="not:empty"> ...21:24
dennis__doesn't      <ul tal:condition="not:context/tools">     work?21:25
X-screamno, it still writes out an empty <ul></ul>21:27
X-screamif the list is empty21:27
dennis__what is tools ? a list ?21:28
X-screamyes a simple list21:28
X-screamand it's currently empty21:28
dennis__<ul tal:condition="python: len(context.tools) > 0">21:28
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X-screamthat gives a system error21:30
X-screamTypeError: len() of unsized object21:31
X-screamhmm..21:31
X-screammaybe it's None21:31
X-screamand not []21:31
X-screamyep, it's None21:32
X-scream:)21:32
dennis__ah duh,   <ul tal:condition="context/tools">21:33
dennis__not not:21:33
X-screamagh, of course :D21:33
X-screamthanks21:33
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X-screamugh, been z3ing the entire day.. need to go for a walk :)21:41
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